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They all pray to the same god. Jesus was raised as a jew and spread the gospel, and then Mohammad heard about Jesus, went crazy and spread his own version of religion. So everyone is praying to the same god. Zombievegetable
You're not saying what I think you're saying are you?
Which one would that be?This is even more terrible than the most recent Religion thread.
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flordeceres
[QUOTE="flordeceres"]Which one would that be?This is even more terrible than the most recent Religion thread.
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LJS9502_basic
The one Crushmaster created
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Which one would that be?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="flordeceres"]
This is even more terrible than the most recent Religion thread.
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flordeceres
The one Crushmaster created
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Ah. Usually he pops back to bump it.[QUOTE="flordeceres"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Which one would that be?LJS9502_basic
The one Crushmaster created
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Ah. Usually he pops back to bump it.It's only a matter of time before that thread resurfaces, or he creates another (virtually identical) one. >_>
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="flordeceres"]Ah. Usually he pops back to bump it. I'm pretty sure The Crushmaster is suspended right now.Oh that explains why he hasn't bumped it.The one Crushmaster created
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MrPraline
They all pray to a God who has certain characteristics but there are so many theological differences between them that they clearly cannot be the same God. For example, being the Christian that I am I believe in the Trinity and thus the divinity of Jesus Christ. Jesus is God according to Christianity. How is that not a different God than the God of Judaism and Islam?mindstorm... Worshiping Jesus is solely on the ideas of salvation.. In the end you are still worshipping a single god that is a creator of everything, and holds certain values and ideals to other societies religions.. Those certain values though evolve as society evolves though.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"]They all pray to a God who has certain characteristics but there are so many theological differences between them that they clearly cannot be the same God. For example, being the Christian that I am I believe in the Trinity and thus the divinity of Jesus Christ. Jesus is God according to Christianity. How is that not a different God than the God of Judaism and Islam?sSubZerOo... Worshiping Jesus is solely on the ideas of salvation.. In the end you are still worshipping a single god that is a creator of everything, and holds certain values and ideals to other societies religions.. Those certain values though evolve as society evolves though. And this somehow means they are the same God? If one of the religions is right, the other two cannot be also.
... Worshiping Jesus is solely on the ideas of salvation.. In the end you are still worshipping a single god that is a creator of everything, and holds certain values and ideals to other societies religions.. Those certain values though evolve as society evolves though. And this somehow means they are the same God? If one of the religions are right, the other two cannot be also.It means they are interpretations of the same God. And naturally those interpretation have minor and major differences between them.[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]They all pray to a God who has certain characteristics but there are so many theological differences between them that they clearly cannot be the same God. For example, being the Christian that I am I believe in the Trinity and thus the divinity of Jesus Christ. Jesus is God according to Christianity. How is that not a different God than the God of Judaism and Islam?mindstorm
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]They all pray to a God who has certain characteristics but there are so many theological differences between them that they clearly cannot be the same God. For example, being the Christian that I am I believe in the Trinity and thus the divinity of Jesus Christ. Jesus is God according to Christianity. How is that not a different God than the God of Judaism and Islam?mindstorm... Worshiping Jesus is solely on the ideas of salvation.. In the end you are still worshipping a single god that is a creator of everything, and holds certain values and ideals to other societies religions.. Those certain values though evolve as society evolves though. And this somehow means they are the same God? ... Why wouldn't it be? I think matters of salvation on believing a certain thing, or other fables seem pretty trivial, when God is defined by these religion as a all creator, holds values strikingly similar to one another, and holds the same characteristics with one another.. I honestly don't see why any one would care to argue this point on why it would matter...
... Worshiping Jesus is solely on the ideas of salvation.. In the end you are still worshipping a single god that is a creator of everything, and holds certain values and ideals to other societies religions.. Those certain values though evolve as society evolves though. And this somehow means they are the same God? If one of the religions is right, the other two cannot be also. .... Sense when does any religion have to right or wrong.. It should based on the values they stand by in the end.. And they all believe in a god after all.. One can place the argument you could ALL be wrong.. But in the end don't you think its pretty hypocritical to say that a just and loving being.. That supposedly loves us all equally, thinks that any religion or belief is wrong...[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]They all pray to a God who has certain characteristics but there are so many theological differences between them that they clearly cannot be the same God. For example, being the Christian that I am I believe in the Trinity and thus the divinity of Jesus Christ. Jesus is God according to Christianity. How is that not a different God than the God of Judaism and Islam?mindstorm
It means they are interpretations of the same God. And naturally those interpretation have minor and major differences between them.If you define it that way, I agree. However, being that these interpretations are so different, praying to the God of Islam is not praying to the God of Christianity.Teenaged
According to an ICM survey, done for the BBC in 2004, your view is not shared by many of the faithful.
The differences between the Gods and core beliefs of the various world religions does seem to indicate that their Gods are seperate.
If you define it that way, I agree. However, being that these interpretations are so different, praying to the God of Islam is not praying to the God of Christianity.Indeed their "version" is radically different.[QUOTE="Teenaged"]It means they are interpretations of the same God. And naturally those interpretation have minor and major differences between them.
mindstorm
But I dont think a common "source" can be excluded.
:shock: Long time no see. :DAccording to an ICM survey, done for the BBC in 2004, your view is not shared by many of the faithful.
The differences between the Gods and core beliefs of the various world religions does seem to indicate that their Gods are seperate.
RationalAtheist
[QUOTE="vitriolboy"]
Christians, Jews and Muslims all pray to the same non existent god.
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Theokhoth
I love how some people make a conscious effort to go "GOD DOESN'T EXIST LOL" whenever religion remotely comes up.
But ..............God doesnt exist LOL!*trollface*
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] .... Sense when does any religion have to right or wrong.. It should based on the values they stand by in the end.. And they all believe in a god after all.. One can place the argument you could ALL be wrong.. But in the end don't you think its pretty hypocritical to say that a just and loving being.. That supposedly loves us all equally, thinks that any religion or belief is wrong... mindstormReligion has to do with more than morality... Religion deals with reality. If I did not believe Christianity was a reality, I sure wouldn't have the same moral code. .... Prove otherwise, because as it stands whether you are religious or not, or of a different religion.. You tend to always share the same general morals and views in the same society.. Yet again prove to me how god is any way different, the beings general teachings are similar in nature.. The beings powers and charactersitics are similar in nature.. Whether you like it or not the Bible is a interepretation it isn't neccesarly realitiy or fact..
If they don't...it might be catching.:oI love how some people make a conscious effort to go "GOD DOESN'T EXIST LOL" whenever religion remotely comes up.
Theokhoth
If you define it that way, I agree. However, being that these interpretations are so different, praying to the God of Islam is not praying to the God of Christianity.Indeed their "version" is radically different.[QUOTE="mindstorm"]
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]It means they are interpretations of the same God. And naturally those interpretation have minor and major differences between them.
Teenaged
But I dont think a common "source" can be excluded.
Well, I could buy a steak from a store. You could buy a hot dog from that same store. If person three shouted, "You are eating the same thing!" I can't say me and you'd agree. The source is the same but what we are eating is radically different. I prefer my steak. :P[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Indeed their "version" is radically different.[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you define it that way, I agree. However, being that these interpretations are so different, praying to the God of Islam is not praying to the God of Christianity.
mindstorm
But I dont think a common "source" can be excluded.
Well, I could buy a steak from a store. You could buy a hot dog from that same store. If person three shouted, "You are eating the same thing!" I can't say me and you'd agree. The source is the same but what we are eating is radically different. I prefer my steak. :PWell, you know what my answer is ("We cant even prove the existence of the source, how can we prove the validity of the versions?" or "The meat, and the steak and the sausage are real, therefore that the biggest weekness of the analogy") so lets not tread there. :PAccording to an ICM survey, done for the BBC in 2004, your view is not shared by many of the faithful.
The differences between the Gods and core beliefs of the various world religions does seem to indicate that their Gods are seperate.
I can't help but point out that this usually deals with ideals of salvation.. That you basically HAVE to accept the core beliefs, now if you disagreed with that you don't accept salvation now do you? Not to mention that chart points out that as society becomes more developed or liberal, they tend to disagree.. But in the end this is a fallacy of appealing to the majority.[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] .... Sense when does any religion have to right or wrong.. It should based on the values they stand by in the end.. And they all believe in a god after all.. One can place the argument you could ALL be wrong.. But in the end don't you think its pretty hypocritical to say that a just and loving being.. That supposedly loves us all equally, thinks that any religion or belief is wrong... sSubZerOoReligion has to do with more than morality... Religion deals with reality. If I did not believe Christianity was a reality, I sure wouldn't have the same moral code. .... Prove otherwise, because as it stands whether you are religious or not, or of a different religion.. You tend to always share the same general morals and views in the same society.. Yet again prove to me how god is any way different, the beings general teachings are similar in nature.. The beings powers and charactersitics are similar in nature.. Whether you like it or not the Bible is a interepretation it isn't neccesarly realitiy or fact..
You are using Postmodern presumptions into your view of religion. Keep it in the realm of literature and art.
The only way what you say could be true is if all truth was relative. If you are right, I suppose I should start sacrificing some virgins for the sake of morality... Why not? All religion is true isn't it?
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Indeed their "version" is radically different.[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you define it that way, I agree. However, being that these interpretations are so different, praying to the God of Islam is not praying to the God of Christianity.
mindstorm
But I dont think a common "source" can be excluded.
Well, I could buy a steak from a store. You could buy a hot dog from that same store. If person three shouted, "You are eating the same thing!" I can't say me and you'd agree. The source is the same but what we are eating is radically different. I prefer my steak. :POh no I do have a real answer and your analogy helps me with that. In both cases the form of the meat has changed radically. The meat was on an animal and it was raw. Both people (religions) are using processed meat (distorted perception) and make up two different types of food that deviate from the source equally.;)
Well, you know what my answer is ("We cant even prove the existence of the source, how can we prove the validity of the versions?" or "The meat, and the steak and the sausage are real, therefore that the biggest weekness of the analogy") so lets not tread there. :Plol, don't knock my analogy, I'm proud of it regardless of its issues! :x :PTeenaged
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