[QUOTE="Mark_the_Lie"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] If you ever paid attention to how people talk in TEXT.. when talking to people they' know.. then you'd be well aware that most conversations don't really hold that much information to conclude anything specific. It's just a typical media ploy to attempt to spin a certain story that doesn't really exist.
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The emails are legitimate. The fact that any data was manipulated is pretty sad, because they still haven't able to show factually that man-made global warming was ever occurring. The only way the warmers, people like you, were ever able obtain some sort of farcical "consensus" was by either intimidating and shutting out opposition, or trying to discredit them on non-scientific grounds.
Perhaps you don't fully understand. If you're going to make the claim that the world will be thrown into some giant, human-generated, string of natural catastrophes in a couple of decades, and that the only way to stop it is to completely ruin our economy and destroy our current way of life.....the burden of proof is on YOU, big time. And unfortunately, no one has ever been able to fulfill that burden of proof with REAL, unaltered, unquestionable empirical data.
The global warming gig is up. Even if it is occurring, the warmers just ruined their chance at getting public support. Their should have been a transparent, honest, lengthy debate. All opposition data and arguments should have been taken into account and made just as public. Unfortunately, that's not the way it went down.
What are you talking about? If you read the emails it's pretty obvious they're is no specific information in them that would indicate any wrong doing. Just take your time and watch how people you know person to person communicate through text.. it's hardly as descriptive or as informative as a history book... far from it in fact. sure, there might be a few questions of concern, but I don't see anything conclusive. Really, there is nothing here. Just people looking for any excuse they can to say Global Warming doesn't exist... because they've run out of scientific means to do so.. they take emails that could be about anything, and try to say their is some big conspiracy.. No one has even come close to definitively showing that man-made global warming exists. Every piece of data that has been used to try and prove it does exist has been shot down by opposition, because the data can be looked at a hundred different ways. Al Gore's movie didn't help his cause either, because there's an endless amount of scientific journal articles out there now demonstrating how all of his data is inaccurate and how he assumes cause and effect based on what are actually coincidental correlations. Thus, he and his global warming posse had to resort to intimidation and censorship.
It's like if I say God exists, and then I try to support that by saying that life, love, emotions, and universal order are evidence of His existence. You can turn around and say He doesn't exist, because those things all have an explanation other than God. What you are essentially doing is turning global warming into a god of sorts, and worshipping it without really evaluating the data and opposing arguments. The climatology community has become a modern day Roman Catholic church of the 15th century; they defame, excommunicate, and shut out anyone who opposes them. That's why people aren't buying it, and rightly so.
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