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#1 h8jlhbtw
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Do you people believe that our reality could all be a computer simulation? I was think about this. And it is kind of crazy.

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#2 DrD3V1L
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No, I don't believe it's some God's little game, but interesting imagination.

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#3 WiiRocks66
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:P Who knows. But think of how many people play The Sims. Playing a life sim....inside a life sim :o

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#4 Baconbits2004
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I was think about this. And it is kind of crazy.

h8jlhbtw
Go on...
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, that our simulated world is controlled by the human equivalent of a toddler. How would it feel knowing that our God isn't even potty trained?
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#6 h8jlhbtw
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not conspiracy butmoreof a philosophy argumentthat ive read.

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#7 Baconbits2004
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, that our simulated world is controlled by the human equivalent of a toddler. How would it feel knowing that our God isn't even potty trained?ff7fan2
For the sake of argument, how do we know god has to potty?
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For the sake of argument, how do we know god has to potty? Baconbits2004
Well if god has never had to potty, I think we can safely assume that god isn't trained to potty.
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#9 ColonelVodka
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Words cannot describe my utter lack of belief in this, but I guess it's somewhat plausible. If we really were in a bulletproof computer system, there probably would be no way of knowing that we are.

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#10 h8jlhbtw
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To FF7fan

If our world was a computersimulation, then it is highly unlikley that someone with the intelligence of a human toddler would be controlling it. The reason for this is that our world is very complex, and a human toddler would not have the ability to create it or run it.

Most likely a possible candidate for who would control the simulation would be an evolved human form, possibly running an ancestor simulation. The ancestors would be us. Why would an evolved human want to run an ancestor simulation? Many reasons. Maybe our evolved form would want to better understand how they came to be.

Human scientists run simulations all the time. We create environments: petri dishes for bacteria,controlled environments for fruit flies.Recently as computational power has beenincreasing they domore and more in simulated computer environments.

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I think about stuff like this sometimes, though I'm crazy.

But how do I know that what I perceive to be reality is actual reality? Is there even a "true" reality, or is it just a matter of perspective? I don't know if that makes any sense (I did fail the only philosophy class I ever took). And I guess it also has nothing to do with your question...

But would it really matter to us, anyway? Even if our reality was a computer simulation, it would still be our reality.

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To FF7fan

If our world was a computersimulation, then it is highly unlikley that someone with the intelligence of a human toddler would be controlling it. The reason for this is that our world is very complex, and a human toddler would not have the ability to create it or run it.

Most likely a possible candidate for who would control the simulation would be an evolved human form, possibly running an ancestor simulation. The ancestors would be us. Why would an evolved human want to run an ancestor simulation? Many reasons. Maybe our evolved form would want to better understand how they came to be.

Human scientists run simulations all the time. We create environments: petri dishes for bacteria,controlled environments for fruit flies.Recently as computational power has beenincreasing they domore and more in simulated computer environments.

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lol it was just a joke man. However, I'll play around a bit I guess.

I didn't mean to say that the person controlling our world has the intelligence of a human toddler. What I meant to say (which I worded wrong), is that if, for example, the species controlling all of the subsequent worlds have a life span of 515 billion years. If our controller is approximately 13.75 billion years old, then it would more than likely be cIassified as a toddler (relative to that species of course) and probably hasn't reached intellectual maturity yet. If this is true, our technological advances are directly correlated to the rate at which the "toddler" learns.
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#13 h8jlhbtw
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I think about stuff like this sometimes, though I'm crazy.

But how do I know that what I perceive to be reality is actual reality? Is there even a "true" reality, or is it just a matter of perspective? I don't know if that makes any sense (I did fail the only philosophy class I ever took). And I guess it also has nothing to do with your question...

But would it really matter to us, anyway? Even if our reality was a computer simulation, it would still be our reality.

CammiTac

We view our reality as stable and concrete. If it was a computer simulation, then it is only stable and concrete because the creators ofthe simulationwant it that way. If they wanted to change our reality, they could. If they wanted to reveal that we are living in a computer simulation, they could do this also.

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#14 Sunsha
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[QUOTE="ff7fan2"]Let's say, for the sake of argument, that our simulated world is controlled by the human equivalent of a toddler. How would it feel knowing that our God isn't even potty trained?Baconbits2004
For the sake of argument, how do we know god has to potty?

Why else does it rain then? :-p
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#15 h8jlhbtw
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[QUOTE="h8jlhbtw"]

To FF7fan

If our world was a computersimulation, then it is highly unlikley that someone with the intelligence of a human toddler would be controlling it. The reason for this is that our world is very complex, and a human toddler would not have the ability to create it or run it.

Most likely a possible candidate for who would control the simulation would be an evolved human form, possibly running an ancestor simulation. The ancestors would be us. Why would an evolved human want to run an ancestor simulation? Many reasons. Maybe our evolved form would want to better understand how they came to be.

Human scientists run simulations all the time. We create environments: petri dishes for bacteria,controlled environments for fruit flies.Recently as computational power has beenincreasing they domore and more in simulated computer environments.

ff7fan2

lol it was just a joke man. However, I'll play around a bit I guess.

I didn't mean to say that the person controlling our world has the intelligence of a human toddler. What I meant to say (which I worded wrong), is that if, for example, the species controlling all of the subsequent worlds have a life span of 515 billion years. If our controller is approximately 13.75 billion years old, then it would more than likely be cIassified as a toddler (relative to that species of course) and probably hasn't reached intellectual maturity yet. If this is true, our technological advances are directly correlated to the rate at which the "toddler" learns.

got it :)

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They're questioning themselves again :( Guess I'll have a chat with tech support about patching this out.
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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="ff7fan2"]Let's say, for the sake of argument, that our simulated world is controlled by the human equivalent of a toddler. How would it feel knowing that our God isn't even potty trained?Sunsha
For the sake of argument, how do we know god has to potty?

Why else does it rain then? :-p

lulz. Then why does it also snow?
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#18 Sunsha
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lulz. Then why does it also snow?Baconbits2004
Even pee will freeze.
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#19 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]lulz. Then why does it also snow?Sunsha
Even pee will freeze.

Don't know any pee that is wh- oh lord...
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I dont see why not. It could be that our simulation was made by a more advanced simulation and so on./thread See I always kill threads.

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#21 h8jlhbtw
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Basically the argument goes like this:

In the future humans or an evolved human formmight have the computational power and programming skillsto create a computer simulation that mimics reality. This could be 50 years from now or 1 million years from now. It does not matter. What we do know is that computational power is always increasing.

If future humans or an evolved human form chooses to run these simulations, will they? I would say that they would. One reason why they might choose to run a computer simulation is the desire to study their ancestors.

If these computer simulations create individuals in them that are conscious, the conscious individuals would not be able to tell reality from simulated reality.

If you assume that computational power increases by leaps and bounds, future humans or an evolved human form might want to run billions of simulations. Perhaps they have the computing power to do this. If they run billions of simulations, by sheer number of simulated worlds created, it is more likely that we are living in a computer simulation rather than being one of the original ancestors.

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#22 Sunsha
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Don't know any pee that is wh- oh lord...Baconbits2004
Actually if you drink enough water your pee is clear. Or apparently if you have diabetes according to this website. So maybe God is just diabetic.
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#23 slipknot0129
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Maybe just by programming something to think something that makes reality for that something.

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#24 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="Sunsha"] Actually if you drink enough water your pee is clear. Or apparently if you have diabetes according to this website. So maybe God is just diabetic.

So god could be a diabetic baby, doesn't that just blow your mind? :o
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#25 Sunsha
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So god could be a diabetic baby, doesn't that just blow your mind? :oBaconbits2004
I know...you would think he would be exempt from diseases.
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[QUOTE="Sunsha"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]lulz. Then why does it also snow?Baconbits2004
Even pee will freeze.

Don't know any pee that is wh- oh lord...

He didn't even ask if it was okay :(
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#27 Sunsha
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He didn't even ask if it was okay :( dave123321
He also never asked if if it was ok I not be born into a family that was rich..I would have enjoyed being a Trump or a Gates.