'Condemning Israel's Annexation Crimes is Anti-Semetic.' Is this a valid accusation?

What do you mean by annexation crimes? I don't remember Israel annexing Gaza. Undermining it's territorial integrity yes but annexation...

In any case whenever someone says criticizing the state of Israel is criticizing the people of Israel I get the feeling that the person speaking wouldn't mind using the Samson's option because someone spitted on his face. In other words such people need to FUCKING GROW UP.

No. Being against a government does not mean you are against the citizens whom are govern by that government.

Being anti-semetic would mean you want all Isralis to perish, Likewise with "Anti-America", "Anti- Russia" and so forth.

Of course it is, you pagan.

Annexation of land in the West Bank has been the normal status quo throughout the past decade, and its still going strong. The Israeli right is hell bent on bringing about the demise of Israel, which is consoling.

That's like saying hating the Uganda government for its homophobic laws and corruption makes you racist.

Being Jewish shouldn't give you a free pass to do what ever you want.

Golan Heights, though much is annexed, is still illegally occupied territory. West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is being annexed as we speak. Gaza isn't annexed but it's still occupied territory.

Nice to see that you're still around, Ali.

Dat straw man. I have literally never seen anyone make this point, and I'm sure op hasn't either.

I see. I misunderstood the word annexation. I thought it was a synonym of invasion. My bad.

Yes and I'm not quite sure what the growing right has in mind. I mean besides their extremism there has to be something else that's driving them to believe that they should "regain their homes" asap.

Add to that the Shebaa farms too.

I'm a tough nut :P

Maybe I'm not watching enough CSPAN, but which politicians have made this argument? I haven't heard anyone in the government talk about how Israel is stealing land, much less say that if you don't support Israel for doing it you're an anti-semite.

Allow me to introduce you to Ted Cruz: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/09/ted-cruz-booed-off-stage-at-middle-east-christians-group/

I never meant to suggest government establishment. I was speaking more of the media outlets and universities. Pundits and so-called journalists from corporate news stations. People like Alan Dershowitz and David Horowitz who accuse folks like Chomsky and Finkelstein of antisemitism and holocaust denial for pointing out these actions. Then you have certain universities that make attempts to prohibit students from demonstrating against the occupation for fear of the anti-Semite label.

No I never heard such things. You're an idiot though.

Yeah straw man was the word I was looking for.

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Chomsky and FInkelstein are doing much more than pointing out these actions.

Tc what are you doing

That's called false dilemma.

@thebest31406 said:

Yeah, reread your OP and realized it was a comprehension fail on my part.

On topic, no I don't feel condemning Israel is anti-semetic, people just love to play the "race" card to deter criticism.

israel thinks everything is anti-semitic.. its their version of the race card

You know what is anti-Semitic? The mother fucking HOLOCAUST. That shit was anti-Semitic. Criticizing Israel's actions against the Palestinians is just for any decent-minded person.

States are not able to think.

Thank you OT, for not having a single person in this thread answering the OP with a "yes". Maybe there is still hope.

sorry i meant the apartheid state murders that are occupying it

You dont want to be a nation against Israel and all this talk about Israel doing wrong to Palestinians is part of anti-semitism on all levels whether you know it or not. Anti-semitism is usually used for anti Jewish or anti-Israel. The palestinians are happy as hell that you people dont beleive that its anti-semitic when deep down it is, you just dont know enough about the matter and the palestinians benefit from your ignorance.

If you want to be picky, the Palestinians are all semitic people too, so sticking up for them isn't anti-semitic. "Anti-semitic" as a phrase for prejudice against jews is a very outdated phrase (coined in the 1800s) and I don't understand why it's still in use. The only anti-semitic stance you could take on the israeli-palestine conflict is thinking the whole region should be nuked.

As far as your question goes, I think people getting accused of anti-semitism for criticising isreal is something that only happens out of desperation but it's entirely justifiable to criticise israel or anyone else involved in this conflict and not something exclusive to prejudiced people.

It can be.

: @juboner Can I ask why you think it is anti-semetic to criticize Israel? Like, what I am ignorant of so I can educate myself better?

There are many things I don't like and actively criticize about my own local and state governments, but I'm not ani-Vegas or anti-Nevada. On the contrary, I love this city and state, but I'm grown up enough to realize what's messed up, and come voting time I'll vote in a way I think will best fix those problems.

With that said, my motivations for criticizing Israel are much in the same vain, except I can't vote on what they do. All I can do is vent to a friend or on the internet in a forum, or, if I believed it would make a difference, write a letter or something to someone who has the know how and ability to do something about the things I think are wrong.

criticizing me is anti Semitic

Well it's not unanimous but 80 percent is pretty okay still.

Flubbs is anti-semitic though

Oh yes the Palestinians sure are "benefiting" from this..

ov vey! ov vey!

You tell me Dave; what am I doing?

@byof_america: Do you know the biblical history of the jews and israel? The world wants you to be against Israel and you are even if its on a small level it still adds to anti-semitism.

@yixingtpot: Flagged your post.

Well I would flag them too if I'd ever seen one. But as you said it seems that GS has no policy of deleting hateful and not in the slightest sense constructive comments.

Puh-lease...say anything even remotely that hateful at blacks/gays and the post would be taken down in a second with administrative active taken again the poster. I didn't report it though, because I think it's important for people to see this kind of hateful ignorance for what it is.