Could California become two states?

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#1 The-Apostle
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Apparently, there's ligislation being attemped right now that would make Southern California a separate state. It's not serprising because they're like two separate states anyway.

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#2 BuryMe
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It could, but it won't

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#3 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Doubtful.

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#4 deactivated-5e07bdd20ced5
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why dont they make a north and south texas aswell
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Can they? Yes. Will they? No.

I live on Long Island, NY and for years I have daydreamed about Long Island becoming an independent state. We get no return on our investment from NY State.

I suppose our Official State Bird can be a Seagull. Perhaps Mineola or Islip can be the capital.

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#6 chessmaster1989
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I find it hard to take seriously a proposal that wants to establish SoCal as a state but leave LA as part of NorCal.
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#7 YellowOneKinobi
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Eh, Cali is going to fall into the ocean after 'the big one' anyway :P

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Can they? Yes. Will they? No.

I live on Long Island, NY and for years I have daydreamed about Long Island becoming an independent state. We get no return on our investment from NY State.

I suppose our Official State Bird can be a Seagull. Perhaps Mineola or Islip can be the capital.

YellowOneKinobi
As a New Yorker I'm actually ok with this. You can take Staten Island too if you want too
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#9 Maniacc1
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If they're gonna propose something like that, at least be creative and come up with a better name than "South California."
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#10 Allicrombie
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Eh, Cali is going to fall into the ocean after 'the big one' anyway :P

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supposedly on Dec 21st. They better secede before then.
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#11 YellowOneKinobi
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

Can they? Yes. Will they? No.

I live on Long Island, NY and for years I have daydreamed about Long Island becoming an independent state. We get no return on our investment from NY State.

I suppose our Official State Bird can be a Seagull. Perhaps Mineola or Islip can be the capital.

MgamerBD

As a New Yorker I'm actually ok with this. You can take Staten Island too if you want too

I appreciate the offer, but no thanks. SI is all yours :)

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If they're gonna propose something like that, at least be creative and come up with a better name than "South California."Maniacc1
How about "West Arizona"?
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[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]If they're gonna propose something like that, at least be creative and come up with a better name than "South California."stanleycup98
How about "West Arizona"?

Or "East Pacific Ocean?"
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[QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="Maniacc1"]If they're gonna propose something like that, at least be creative and come up with a better name than "South California."Maniacc1
How about "West Arizona"?

Or "East Pacific Ocean?"

North Mexico?

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[QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="stanleycup98"] How about "West Arizona"?YellowOneKinobi

Or "East Pacific Ocean?"

North Mexico?

New New Mexico
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#16 Maniacc1
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[QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="stanleycup98"] How about "West Arizona"?YellowOneKinobi

Or "East Pacific Ocean?"

North Mexico?

Let's not be ridiculous, New Mexico would get peeved. :P If it happens, I'm just gonna call it "Baja."
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#17 Aquat1cF1sh
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Weren't they thinking about doing the same thing to New York?
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#18 scorch-62
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Why would it? There are plenty of states that have completely different areas.
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#19 The-Apostle
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I find it hard to take seriously a proposal that wants to establish SoCal as a state but leave LA as part of NorCal.chessmaster1989
I don't want LA County in South California anyway. I want it to be conservative because I can't afford to move to Texas. :D
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#20 th3warr1or
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why dont they make a north and south texas aswellkbpyrokb
Because Texas is awesome.
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I find it hard to take seriously a proposal that wants to establish SoCal as a state but leave LA as part of NorCal.chessmaster1989
:lol: Wtf really?
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#22 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I find it hard to take seriously a proposal that wants to establish SoCal as a state but leave LA as part of NorCal.The-Apostle
I don't want LA County in South California anyway. I want it to be conservative because I can't afford to move to Texas. :D

Geographically, LA is part of SoCal. It doesn't make sense to have it as an isolated part of NorCal in the middle of SoCal.

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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

Eh, Cali is going to fall into the ocean after 'the big one' anyway :P

supposedly on Dec 21st. They better secede before then.

Actually, after the quake, California may literally secede from the union . . . and into the ocean.
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]I find it hard to take seriously a proposal that wants to establish SoCal as a state but leave LA as part of NorCal.chessmaster1989

I don't want LA County in South California anyway. I want it to be conservative because I can't afford to move to Texas. :D

Geographically, LA is part of SoCal. It doesn't make sense to have it as an isolated part of NorCal in the middle of SoCal.

Yeah, well, politically speaking, it acts like a northern California county. That's why So-Cal doesn't want it.
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#25 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] I don't want LA County in South California anyway. I want it to be conservative because I can't afford to move to Texas. :DThe-Apostle

Geographically, LA is part of SoCal. It doesn't make sense to have it as an isolated part of NorCal in the middle of SoCal.

Yeah, well, politically speaking, it acts like a northern California county. That's why So-Cal doesn't want it.

Yes but states aren't formed based on political affiliations, they're formed based on geographical boundaries. If SoCal wants to be a state, they have to accept LA as part of it.

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Why don't we just kick California out of the Union entirely and be done with it?
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Why don't we just kick California out of the Union entirely and be done with it?ferrari2001
And just why would we do that?
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#28 majoras_wrath
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This song fits so perfectly.

Mostly since it is about NoCal vs. SoCal.

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#29 BMD004
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If they're gonna propose something like that, at least be creative and come up with a better name than "South California."Maniacc1
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#30 -Sun_Tzu-
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I don't think it's legal for California to do that. Only Texas has the authority to divide itself up, if I recall correctly.
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#31 DroidPhysX
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So does South California now buy water from other states?

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So does South California now buy water from other states?

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They still fight with AZ and Nevada over the Colorado river.
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#33 dnafactory
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Why we're at it, let's divide the entire country in to East and West America. Put all the liberals in one, and conservatives in the other. Joseph P


Lol :lol:

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I really hope not. That would be HORRIBLE. I live right on the border of what would be Northern California, and we do most of our shopping/hanging out in the neighboring city which would be part of Southern California. We would have to go into a different state every time we went to shop! And the proposed division is terrible. How is LA part of Northern California? Horrible!
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Highly doubt it

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I'd move south if this would ever happen.

But it won't.

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I would not object, I hate Southern California.

It'd be great...you can have North California, and South Concreteland Built In A Freaking Desert

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It could, but it won't

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#40 whipassmt
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Hopefully this happens. California has too much Electoral Votes and members of Congress. No one state should have all that pull.

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I don't think it's legal for California to do that. Only Texas has the authority to divide itself up, if I recall correctly. -Sun_Tzu-
Well Texas has its own electrical grid, so their like "a whole nother country".

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[quote="Joseph P"]Why we're at it, let's divide the entire country in to East and West America. Put all the liberals in one, and conservatives in the other. dnafactory



Lol :lol:

As long as the Conservatives are all in the west I'm happy. :D

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#43 ABCarmine
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Yeah, I think that they should make California into two states. The top side will be called California, and the bottom part will be called Mexico. :)
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"] Or "East Pacific Ocean?"stanleycup98

North Mexico?

New New Mexico

Wow guys >_>

Is this even a question? It should be called New California Republic.

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Why don't we just kick California out of the Union entirely and be done with it?ferrari2001

because you need our food. Where else is the rest of the country going to get summer squash and fresh fruit in the middle of winter :P Also, lets not forgot that California has one of the top 15 GDPs (or whatever its called) in the world. The US needs California to stay on top :D

lol I forgot what president said it, and I am paraphrasing, but he said "When I want to go West, I go to Washington or Oregon. When I want to get West of the West, I go to California."

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So does South California now buy water from other states?

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lord I would hope so, I am sick of that desert taking all my beautiful, clean Mt Shasta water

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Can they? Yes. Will they? No.

I live on Long Island, NY and for years I have daydreamed about Long Island becoming an independent state. We get no return on our investment from NY State.

I suppose our Official State Bird can be a Seagull. Perhaps Mineola or Islip can be the capital.

YellowOneKinobi
Interesting, because I have traveled to LI before, and I found out that LI and NYC residents have a real rivalry going on. I was told they don't get along very well.
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

Can they? Yes. Will they? No.

I live on Long Island, NY and for years I have daydreamed about Long Island becoming an independent state. We get no return on our investment from NY State.

I suppose our Official State Bird can be a Seagull. Perhaps Mineola or Islip can be the capital.

topsemag55

Interesting, because I have traveled to LI before, and I found out that LI and NYC residents have a real rivalry going on. I was told they don't get along very well.

I've lived here my whole life and I really haven't noticed any rivalry (perhaps because Brooklyn acts as a buffer betwee LI and NYC (and upstate NY is a whole seperate animal). I'd say everyone pretty much picks on Staten Island though :P

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God bless the State of Jefferson.
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"] Or "East Pacific Ocean?"stanleycup98

North Mexico?

New New Mexico

Alta California? In contrast to Baja California??