Could God create a rock that he couldn't lift?

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#1 druglord6
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Just wondering how people would answer this.

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#2 Snakewiseman
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if the rock were the size of my member

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#3 druglord6
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if the rock were the size of my member

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#4 LJS9502_basic
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Just wondering how people would answer this.

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Enjoy.... This has been done to death....
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#5 Pirate700
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If he wanted to I guess he could. I guess it depends what his creative powers are or aren't.

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#6 Theokhoth
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Can God answer a nonsense question?

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#7 druglord6
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[QUOTE="druglord6"]

Just wondering how people would answer this.

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My bad i was genuinely interested in this question thanks.
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#8 nitsud_19
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Wow, this LJ person is really down on everyone... maybe its that terrible terrible band :P j/k dude.

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#9 needled24-7
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if we supposedly have free will, but god knows everything that will happen in the future, including our actions, then do we really have free will? or does it just seem like we do?

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Wow, this LJ person is really down on everyone... maybe its that terrible terrible band :P j/k dude.

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#11 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="druglord6"]

Just wondering how people would answer this.

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Enjoy.... This has been done to death....

My bad i was genuinely interested in this question thanks.

Yes but this has been a rather common thread. And I did give you the answers you sought did I not?
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#12 druglord6
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="druglord6"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Enjoy.... This has been done to death....

My bad i was genuinely interested in this question thanks.

Yes but this has been a rather common thread. And I did give you the answers you sought did I not?

yes i have been enlightened :)
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#13 chrisrooR
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It's a paradox. There is no answer.
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#14 aaronmullan
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Can God answer a nonsense question?

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Nobody can.
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#15 Vinegar_Strokes
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if he couldn't lift it he could create a JCB to help him

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#16 foxhound_fox
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Yes and no. It is the paradox of omnipotence.

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#17 ADF_Game
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People don't like inconvenient questions, they will just say God is outside our understanding and consider the argument countered.
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#18 tocool340
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if we supposedly have free will, but god knows everything that will happen in the future, including our actions, then do we really have free will? or does it just seem like we do?

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If he can see the future, then why did he bother creating us humans if he knew we were gonna end up killing the planet slowly? Why create hell for bad people if he knew before time that some humans were going to turn evil? Why did he bother putting forbidden fruit in the garden for adam and eve if he knew they were gonna be deceived by Satan? I honestly don't get why people talk as if he's extremely powerful when he could have well been an average guy that probably died of old age like everyone else...
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#19 wstfld
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If you believe in God, I assume you think he can do anything.
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#20 Shoooryuken
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not sure about god, but PS3 only does everything.
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#21 LJS9502_basic
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not sure about god, but PS3 only does everything.Shoooryuken
This is not SW.;)
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#22 194197844077667059316682358889
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Sure, why not
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#23 one_plum
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God would be able to create a rock that he can both lift and not be able to lift *head xplodes*

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Your question is nonsense and frankly overused. Can a circle be a square? We already know that God is limited by his nature.. Titus 1:2: "n hope of eternal life which God, WHO CANNOT LIE, promised before time began." God cannot exist in a state of paradox, at least in interactions concerning us. Our silly little minds wouldn't be able to comprehend it and would probably explode.

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#25 Yongying
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He'd create a stone so heavy that he couldn't lift it, then create the exact same stone and lift it just to blow your mind.

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#26 tocool340
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not sure about god, but PS3 only does everything.Shoooryuken
Well, let's be honest, this isn't system wars. So if you want to talk about your mildly amusing PS3, take it to system wars. mmmkay?...:wink:
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#27 CoolSkAGuy
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Lifting is a word created by man.... so yes.
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#28 tekken220
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I honestly have no idea what to say here.
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#29 UserBane
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Yes, that rock is me.

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#30 -Sun_Tzu-
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No because he doesn't exist. Omnipotence paradox = solved.

[spoiler] Seriously though, I've always thought of this paradox as irrelevant and is really only an argument over semantics [/spoiler]

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#31 xscrapzx
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My opinion is yes he could, but he would not be doing the lifting himself. If he makes a rock that he himself cannot, then I'm sure he can create a device that will assist in the movement of that rock.

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#32 ghoklebutter
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Yes.
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#33 Vandalvideo
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The paradox relies on the assumption that to be omnipotent is to have all powers possible. That, however, need not necessarily be the definition of omnipotence. It could equally be 'that of which there is no more powerful'.
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#34 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="druglord6"]

Just wondering how people would answer this.

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lol what a load of crap.
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#35 Stumpt25
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He'd have to make an infinitely large ball of rock matter, and since there cannot be an infinite amount of finite things, the question by its very definition is either very flawed, or beyond human comprehension.
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#36 xscrapzx
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He'd have to make an infinitely large ball of rock matter, and since there cannot be an infinite amount of finite things, the question by its very definition is either very flawed, or beyond human comprehension.Stumpt25
Why not?
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#37 Jamiemydearx3
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Just wondering how people would answer this.

druglord6

If god is real, I think it could go either way.

Example:

I can build a house, but I can't pick it up.

We have no idea what kind of powers god actually has, but if he is real I would say yes, he can do anything.

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#38 Stumpt25
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[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]He'd have to make an infinitely large ball of rock matter, and since there cannot be an infinite amount of finite things, the question by its very definition is either very flawed, or beyond human comprehension.xscrapzx
Why not?

Why not what? Let me answer what I THINK you meant: It'd would be like trying to tell a dog about the theory of gravity, you reach a point where its mind just cannot comprehend whatever you are trying to teach it. We're the same.
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#39 II_Seraphim_II
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This is just the "Unstoppable force and immovable wall" question rewritten. It's like asking "can 2 people be taller than each other?" If God has infinite power, then nothing is too heavy for him. If the rock is too heavy for him to lift, then God cannot have infinite power. The 2 cannot co-exist unless you are off the view that God is immune to paradox, and then yes, it's possible for such a situation to occur. "How" is beyond our realm of comprehension, but it would be possible.
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#40 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Uh, i wouldn't think so..

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Your question is nonsense and frankly overused. Can a circle be a square? We already know that God is limited by his nature.. Titus 1:2: "In hope of eternal life which God, WHO CANNOT LIE, promised before time began." God cannot exist in a state of paradox, at least in interactions concerning us. Our silly little minds wouldn't be able to comprehend it and would probably explode.

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and yet we created god ...

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#42 WasntAvailable
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Could God create another version of himself exactly like himself, and if each had the power to destroy one another as God can do anything, does that mean that if God destroys God is God Omnipotent even though God could destroy God? Yeah solve that one 8)

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Could God create another version of himself exactly like himself, and if each had the power to destroy one another as God can do anything, does that mean that if God destroys God is God Omnipotent even though God could destroy God? Yeah solve that one 8)

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Man created god, man is falible, therefore the concept of god is full of holes. Solved!
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#44 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

Could God create another version of himself exactly like himself, and if each had the power to destroy one another as God can do anything, does that mean that if God destroys God is God Omnipotent even though God could destroy God? Yeah solve that one 8)

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Man created god, man is falible, therefore the concept of god is full of holes. Solved!

My example was clearly hypothetical :evil:.

Another question. If a tree falls in the wood, and the only person to hear or see said tree is crushed and killed by the falling tree, is that tragic or just hilariously ironic?

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#45 NarutoFever1
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I asked somebody this before actually.

"If God is supposed to be able to do anything, why can't he create a rock he can not lift?"

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#46 maheo30
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Considering He is spirit (John 4) the question is pointless.
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Only if he was in the mood.

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#48 bobdood99
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Yes, He could.... but, He would lift it anyway :P
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#49 LegendaryFox77
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You can't do that, you'll creat a time paradox!

TIME PARADOX!

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#50 deactivated-61d91d42c39df
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the mass of the rock would need to be infinite, which isn't possible so the question is invalid.

this doesn't negate omnipotence.