Counter Argument to Your Brain on Porn movement

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#1 Morello964
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I missed this in my travels of the indefinite electron overlay and was so very glad to have found something to temper the propaganda against porn. If your brain really couldn't tell the difference between 2d (even 3d) motion depictions and reality, we'd all have been to war after Saving Private Ryan. No one ever mentioned gay men being porn addicts or sex addicts because they're not being complained about by marriage defenders.

It's long but it has over-arching ramifications to how we medicalize human behavior and try to normalize what's specific to our culture and mostly judeo-christian foundation.

http://thehumanist.org/july-august-2012/you%E2%80%99re-addicted-to-what/

Edit: Leave Tiger alone!

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You don't watch Saving Private Ryan several times a week as the average porn-watcher would. And porn addiction is real, and yes, gay men can be affected by it.
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Sex addiction =/= porn addiction.

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You don't watch Saving Private Ryan several times a week as the average porn-watcher would. And porn addiction is real, and yes, gay men can be affected by it. chrisrooR
Affected in which way?
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LOL at some people trying to think of good things that come from porn. I bet these are the same who watch it daily.
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LOL at some people trying to think of good things that come from porn. I bet these are the same who watch it daily.pspdseagle
There are plenty of good things that come from porn. It doesn't take an addict to know that.
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I remember reading some great articles years ago claiming that people tend to measure the authenticity of war by making comparisons to Saving Private Ryan. In pretending to be authentic (hyper-real), films like SPR have completely skewed the general public's perceptions and expectations of war. So...yes, probably a terrible example there. If porn is like Saving Private Ryan, that doesn't support your argument.
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[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]You don't watch Saving Private Ryan several times a week as the average porn-watcher would. And porn addiction is real, and yes, gay men can be affected by it. AussieePet
Affected in which way?

Well, depending on the amount you view it can desensitize you and make your partner seem relatively less attractive physically.
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Do the people making these studies/articles have nothing better to do? Honestly I doubt anyone cares (ok maybe 1%). I'm bored. Might as well play a video game or watch porn or whatever. It's my free time. Maybe they should watch porn when bored instead of writing this stuff. At least it's better than the sex tips you can find in some magazines.
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#13 Morello964
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I remember reading some great articles years ago claiming that people tend to measure the authenticity of war by making comparisons to Saving Private Ryan. In pretending to be authentic (hyper-real), films like SPR have completely skewed the general public's perceptions and expectations of war. So...yes, probably a terrible example there. If porn is like Saving Private Ryan, that doesn't support your argument. Planeforger

 

Seeing as porn skews mens views of sex that's EXACTLY what I'm saying in my argument. Porn is good for sex education but it carries unfortunate misconceptions just like a Sandra Bullock movie on love. The anti-porn stuff doesn't discriminate between female-oriented, sensual touching or lesbian or even soft-core and even says too many romance novels is bad. It skips a few parts that porn can't replicate of the human interaction but teaches sex nontheless. Porn doesn't even begin to replace another human being but they can coexist amicably. The fact that porn in Europe is seen differently as it is here is an example of social and cultural reinforcement shaping reactions and guilt/shame.

Read the link and dispute the assertion that the same pathways said to "mimic heroin addiction" are the same pathways that mimic sunsets and a host of other non-alarmist stimuli. It's akin to anorexia or binge-eating in that it's a behavioral excess. You can watch too much porn but it isn't the porn, it's you. You don't like what it feels like to eat, binge, or not rub one out so you return to repeating the behavior. This is about taking responsibility for your actions.

My mistake was assuming anyone on this forum would actually read the link instead of finding fap .gifs. The point is that there's a middle ground between commercialized porn and what actually happens between the sheets but saying it's all bad and neuro-degenerative isn't helping to get there.

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[QUOTE="Planeforger"]I remember reading some great articles years ago claiming that people tend to measure the authenticity of war by making comparisons to Saving Private Ryan. In pretending to be authentic (hyper-real), films like SPR have completely skewed the general public's perceptions and expectations of war. So...yes, probably a terrible example there. If porn is like Saving Private Ryan, that doesn't support your argument. Morello964

 

Seeing as porn skews mens views of sex that's EXACTLY what I'm saying in my argument. Porn is good for sex education but it carries unfortunate misconceptions just like a Sandra Bullock movie on love. The anti-porn stuff doesn't discriminate between female-oriented, sensual touching or lesbian or even soft-core and even says too many romance novels is bad. It skips a few parts that porn can't replicate of the human interaction but teaches sex nontheless. Porn doesn't even begin to replace another human being but they can coexist amicably. The fact that porn in Europe is seen differently as it is here is an example of social and cultural reinforcement shaping reactions and guilt/shame.

Read the link and dispute the assertion that the same pathways said to "mimic heroin addiction" are the same pathways that mimic sunsets and a host of other non-alarmist stimuli. It's akin to anorexia or binge-eating in that it's a behavioral excess. You can watch too much porn but it isn't the porn, it's you. You don't like what it feels like to eat, binge, or not rub one out so you return to repeating the behavior. This is about taking responsibility for your actions.

My mistake was assuming anyone on this forum would actually read the link instead of finding fap .gifs. The point is that there's a middle ground between commercialized porn and what actually happens between the sheets but saying it's all bad and neuro-degenerative isn't helping to get there.

Again though, you're ignoring the frequency needed to reach that kind of desensitization and the ease of acquiring and viewing porn. People that have access to the internet, and consequently the greatest access to pornographic material, also have a broad variety to choose from. The stimuli doesn't necessarily change subjects (sex), but can involve an almost incalculable number of different actors. And many pathways are utilized in the dopaminergic or mu-opiod system, but comparing Heroin addiction to anything by saying it uses the same pathways as "watching sunsets" is grossly ignorant of HOW the heroin acts on these systems. I'm not claiming that all porn is bad, and viewed in moderation can be OK. It's just that with the rise of availability in free-tube sites the definition of 'moderation' seems to be changing from once a week to once a day.
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#15 Zeviander
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Those without a healthy sexual relationship (not necessarily monogamous, nor heterosexual mind you, but a positive sexual experience) are more prone to sexual/porn addiction. It fills a void.