Curse words unneeded in songs?

Recently, I've been listening to this song on the radio (yes I still listen to the radio) by Pink. Originally I thought the name of the song was called "Perfect". I liked the song and would enjoy it whenever it came on the radio. One day, I decided to listen to it on YouTube. This is when I learned that the real name of the song was called "F****** Perfect" And in the chorus she also uses the curse word.Although it's only a small portion of the song, it kinda bothered me every time I heard it.

I liked the song better when I thought the song didn't have any curse words in it. I just thought it was completely unnecessary. I'm not saying cursing is bad. I do it myself. I just don't use it unnecessarily.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you think that curse words are some times unneeded in songs?

What say you, OT?

I find cursing unnecessary overall.

I think it really depends on the message that is being said in the song. Some songs can really benefit from them and for some it can be there downfall.

A lot of singers today use unnessessary profanity and sexual refrences just to be edgy or something, just look a Kesha, all she ever seems to sing about is sex and all the different ways you can have it when she doesn't need to sing about that stuff at all.

I think it really depends on the message that is being said in the song. Some songs can really benefit from them and for some it can be there downfall.

quatoe

A lot of singers today use unnessessary profanity and sexual refrences just to be edgy or something, just look a Kesha, all she ever seems to sing about is sex and all the different ways you can have it when she doesn't need to sing about that stuff at all.

metroidprime55

They're just words. SilverChimera

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]They're just words. mrmusicman247

I think it really depends on the message that is being said in the song. Some songs can really benefit from them and for some it can be there downfall.

quatoe

Exactly.

For example I can't even imagine what a song like Outkast's Gasoline Dreams would be like without cursing..

There's not much in my music. The f word in a few songs and I can think of one with b**** and one with s***

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]They're just words. SilverChimera

A lot of singers today use unnessessary profanity and sexual refrences just to be edgy or something, just look a Kesha, all she ever seems to sing about is sex and all the different ways you can have it when she doesn't need to sing about that stuff at all.

metroidprime55

I don't think it's to be edgy. That hasn't sold music since the '90s. If anything, I think a lot of artists have toned down so their records will have wider appeal.

Kesha sings about that kinda stuff because it serves a market. There's a reason for raunchy music. It's good to dance to. No one who goes out to clubs wants to hear a song about anything less superficial than drugs and sex.

With some songs, I find myself thinking along the lines of "Really? Did you really need to add that in?" and with others, curse words just seem to fit and the song wouldn't work as well without them.

Recently, I've been listening to this song on the radio (yes I still listen to the radio) by Pink. Originally I thought the name of the song was called "Perfect". I liked the song and would enjoy it whenever it came on the radio. One day, I decided to listen to it on YouTube. This is when I learned that the real name of the song was called "F****** Perfect" And in the chorus she also uses the curse word.Although it's only a small portion of the song, it kinda bothered me every time I heard it.

I liked the song better when I thought the song didn't have any curse words in it. I just thought it was completely unnecessary. I'm not saying cursing is bad. I do it myself. I just don't use it unnecessarily.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you think that curse words are some times unneeded in songs?

What say you, OT?

mrmusicman247

Depends, if they're whole song is cursing non-stop and has no meaning, than F*** that song (c wut i did thar). But curse words mainly the f word are appropriate in some songs. They are actually really useful adjectives at some points and can sometimes express a strong reaction towards something. Curse words are only offensive to those who take offense to them. Other than that I love em

They're useful. Of course you don't need them, but they're interesting and powerful sometimes when they do come up. Generally in songs that aren't by Pink.

(Talking about rock, not rap. In rap it doesn't matter unless you're using curses for easy rhymes all the time.)

I think thats up to the writer.CoolSkAGuy

Agreed

Side note: ska ftw

I'm fine with them, though some songs probably don't need them.

They often put emphasis into what the vocalist is presenting, whether it be serious, rediculous, or otherwise.

It comes down to this... some people can swear, some can't. They're saying really ugly words, but only some people can make them sound beautiful.

When used in music, for whatever reason I don't like when girls (pop singers, specifically) gravitate towards obnoxious swears. It gives it a tone I don't like to listen to for enjoyment, not that I listen to pop anyway. I don't listen to rap, but I acknowledge some rappers can make it sound completely natural.

They're just words. SilverChimera

And words have meanings thought everyone knew this argument is invaild.

It comes down to this... some people can swear, some can't. They're saying really ugly words, but only some people can make them sound beautiful.

When used in music, for whatever reason I don't like when girls (pop singers, specifically) gravitate towards obnoxious swears. It gives it a tone I don't like to listen to for enjoyment, not that I listen to pop anyway. I don't listen to rap, but I acknowledge some rappers can make it sound completely natural.

Sharpie125

What makes a word ugly? There just a compilation of sounds EJACULATED out of the human mouth (typically) unless you have a parakeet whom really annoy me since there's this one in my local pet shop that screams HEELLLLLLLOOOOOOO when you walk in. That's an ugly word.

wut?

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]They're just words. Shrimp_Scampi

And words have meanings thought everyone knew this argument is invaild.

Actually it's nots.

Words are just words. They're used to express. How one percieves an expression is totally up to them. Curse words are really useful words in my opinion. That doesn't make words not words.

[QUOTE="Shrimp_Scampi"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]They're just words. Nickprovs

And words have meanings thought everyone knew this argument is invaild.

Actually it's nots.

Words are just words. They're used to express. How one percieves an expression is totally up to them. Curse words are really useful words in my opinion. That doesn't make words not words.

Words have meanings just like actions or else they would be meaningless and wouldn't express anything.

[QUOTE="Shrimp_Scampi"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]They're just words. Nickprovs

And words have meanings thought everyone knew this argument is invaild.

Actually it's nots.

Words are just words. They're used to express. How one percieves an expression is totally up to them. Curse words are really useful words in my opinion. That doesn't make words not words.

Haha, I don't care either way. I just said "ugly" because society is frightened to death of them.

A ton of my music has swears in it, I swear way too much. But if you're basing a song around swear words (which many young artists seem to do) that just shows a lack of writing ability on your part.

[QUOTE="Nickprovs"]

[QUOTE="Shrimp_Scampi"]

And words have meanings thought everyone knew this argument is invaild.

mrmusicman247

Actually it's nots.

Words are just words. They're used to express. How one percieves an expression is totally up to them. Curse words are really useful words in my opinion. That doesn't make words not words.

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="Nickprovs"]

Actually it's nots.

Words are just words. They're used to express. How one percieves an expression is totally up to them. Curse words are really useful words in my opinion. That doesn't make words not words.

Nickprovs

Like I said, if they were really not different, they would not be called curse words.

Never need it. It would be much funnier to replace everything with penis.

[QUOTE="Nickprovs"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] I made a point earlier that curse words are different since they are in a category of their own. mrmusicman247

Like I said, if they were really not different, they would not be called curse words.

Because we all know "curses" exist. You don't need to use a "curse" word to "curse" someone. The f word derives from the german saying err. The true meaning is harmless. The BIG BAD C word derives from the celtic irish word hunt which means woman. Generations have misinterpereted these words and over time they became offensive. Saying something is bad just because it has curse in front of it, is not having your own opinion and not looking into the topic.

It's like saying a law is bad because it's a law. Just like (my favorite example) It's illegal to walk backwards on the sidewalk with an Ice cream cone in your back pocket in Kentucky. Which actually is a law.

Think for yourself.

Recently, I've been listening to this song on the radio (yes I still listen to the radio) by Pink. Originally I thought the name of the song was called "Perfect". I liked the song and would enjoy it whenever it came on the radio. One day, I decided to listen to it on YouTube. This is when I learned that the real name of the song was called "F****** Perfect" And in the chorus she also uses the curse word.Although it's only a small portion of the song, it kinda bothered me every time I heard it.

I liked the song better when I thought the song didn't have any curse words in it. I just thought it was completely unnecessary. I'm not saying cursing is bad. I do it myself. I just don't use it unnecessarily.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you think that curse words are some times unneeded in songs?

What say you, OT?

mrmusicman247

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]

[QUOTE="Nickprovs"]\ That doesn't mean the point is valid. They're just like every other word except some find them offensive. But in reality every word can sound offensive in some way shape or form. And back on topic just like any other word if it's overused in the song than it gets to repetitive and the meaning is differed or set aside. How this puts "curse" words in a seperate category is beyond me. The only reason people find them offensive is because for generations that's the way people percieved them to be. But they're actually useful verbs, adjectives, nouns, etc! Learn to love em. They're not going away.Nickprovs

Like I said, if they were really not different, they would not be called curse words.

Because we all know "curses" exist. You don't need to use a "curse" word to "curse" someone. The f word derives from the german saying err. The true meaning is harmless. The BIG BAD C word derives from the celtic irish word hunt which means woman. Generations have misinterpereted these words and over time they became offensive. Saying something is bad just because it has curse in front of it, is not having your own opinion and not looking into the topic.

It's like saying a law is bad because it's a law. Just like (my favorite example) It's illegal to walk backwards on the sidewalk with an Ice cream cone in your back pocket in Kentucky. Which actually is a law.

Think for yourself.

[QUOTE="Nickprovs"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]

Like I said, if they were really not different, they would not be called curse words.

mrmusicman247

Because we all know "curses" exist. You don't need to use a "curse" word to "curse" someone. The f word derives from the german saying err. The true meaning is harmless. The BIG BAD C word derives from the celtic irish word hunt which means woman. Generations have misinterpereted these words and over time they became offensive. Saying something is bad just because it has curse in front of it, is not having your own opinion and not looking into the topic.

It's like saying a law is bad because it's a law. Just like (my favorite example) It's illegal to walk backwards on the sidewalk with an Ice cream cone in your back pocket in Kentucky. Which actually is a law.

Think for yourself.

Wait wait wait. No one gives a damn how they were originated? That's funny because I do. The here and now doesn't exist. There's ony past and future. You'd have to find the smallest unit of time to measure the present. How they originated is important and who says I scream out curses like a drunken sailor in public anyway. Actually that's pretty acurate

I find cursing unnecessary overall.

sherman-tank1

EDIT: forgot to say that cursing is never " unnessecary " It's part of the english language... Just like " the " and " and " and "but" and any other word........

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

I find cursing unnecessary overall.

Lost-Memory

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I think it really depends on the message that is being said in the song. Some songs can really benefit from them and for some it can be there downfall.

quatoe

I agree. First of May wouldn't sound the same without the swearing.

But it's unnecessary in a lot of songs, I'll definitely say that.

[QUOTE="Lost-Memory"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

I find cursing unnecessary overall.

Nickprovs

Ding, DING, DINGGGG!

[QUOTE="Nickprovs"]

[QUOTE="Lost-Memory"] I find cursing fun and addictive. Its only a word. If someone gets offended by a simple word, they should seriously get a hold of themselves and shake themselves until they realize its only a word.mrmusicman247

Ding, DING, DINGGGG!

Hypothetically* If someone said they were going to shove the leg of a chair up your pooper would you be intimidated or angry?

Woah how did I do that without cursing, GASP.

And that was never my point as previously stated by me, any words whether they are considered curse words or not can be offensive and ruling certain words out would just make no sense. The point is they are useful and valid in a lot of situations.

Wo

Time to blow this popsicle stand!