Dave Mustaine No.1 in Joel McIvers 100 Metal Guitarists Book

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http://www.amazon.com/100-Greatest-Metal-Guitarists/dp/1906002207/

here are the top 20 ( LOL @ 20 and 19 )

remember this isnt based soely on technical skill, its based on impact, influence, technique, different things they play, how much they contribute to their band, and technical skill.. so.. pretty much the overall person. ( if it were just technical skill, Iommi wouldnt even be on the top 100)

20. Herman Li
19. Mick Thompson (that's right, the guy from Slipknot.)
18. Kerry King
17. Ihsahn
16. Tom Morello
15. Kirk Hammett
14. Ralph Santolla
13. Alex Skolnick
12. Pat O'Brien
11. Fredrik Thordendal
10. Chuck Schuldiner
9. Mikael Akerfeldt
8. James Hetfield
7. Trey Azagthoth
6. Tony Iommi
5. Dimebag Darrell
4. Zakk Wylde
3. Jeff Waters
2. John Petrucci
1. Dave Mustaine

MEGADAVE 4 LYFE

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How exactly did Kirk Hammet score lower than James Hetfield? Hammet plays lead guitar and Hetfield plays rhythm (as a general rule, of course) And I'm glad Petrucci scored that high, although I would put him first :P
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How exactly did Kirk Hammet score lower than James Hetfield? Hammet plays lead guitar and Hetfield plays rhythm (as a general rule, of course) And I'm glad Petrucci scored that high, although I would put him first :PLuncbox1
probly because james writes the lyrics, sings and plays.. and he's actually a better player than kirk.. also james most of the time tells kirk what to play, kirk complained about this on some kind of monster, saying he really has no say on what he gets to add, pretty much all kirk does get to do is make up a solo for a specific time slot... james and lars forced him to use mustaine's solo's for the songs on kill em all and RTL... so yeah... james is the real backbone of metallica.. kirk is the hired gun lead player.
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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"]How exactly did Kirk Hammet score lower than James Hetfield? Hammet plays lead guitar and Hetfield plays rhythm (as a general rule, of course) And I'm glad Petrucci scored that high, although I would put him first :Pnimatoad2000
probly because james writes the lyrics, sings and plays.. and he's actually a better player than kirk.. also james most of the time tells kirk what to play, kirk complained about this on some kind of monster, saying he really has no say on what he gets to add, pretty much all kirk does get to do is make up a solo for a specific time slot... james and lars forced him to use mustaine's solo's for the songs on kill em all and RTL... so yeah... james is the real backbone of metallica.. kirk is the hired gun lead player.

oh. Okay, I guess that makes sense then. I was never big enough into that band to know that. Forgive my ignorance. :P
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#5 Ulises2012
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How exactly did Kirk Hammet score lower than James Hetfield? Hammet plays lead guitar and Hetfield plays rhythm (as a general rule, of course) :PLuncbox1
I say the same

Dave Mustaine and Megadeth rocks:D

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WTF......No Jari Maenpaa, Muhammed Suicmez, or Jeff Loomis in the top 2?!:x And Hammet is lower then Hetfeild?! WTH....
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#7 nimatoad2000
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guys hetfield is better than hammet. not to mention hetfield contributes soo much more to metallica..
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Michael Angelo, Joe Stump, Steve Vai, Malsteem?

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WTF......No Jari Maenpaa, Muhammed Suicmez, or Jeff Loomis in the top 2?!:x And Hammet is lower then Hetfeild?! WTH.... Darth-Caedus

i doubt suicmez would be high up darth, this isnt a 100 best technically skilled guitar players list, necrophagist isnt really popular... read what i said on the main post. as i said, if it was technically skilled, Iommi wouldnt even be int he book.

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I find it pretty dumb how Alexi Laiho isn't on there while Kerry King is. :?
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]WTF......No Jari Maenpaa, Muhammed Suicmez, or Jeff Loomis in the top 2?!:x And Hammet is lower then Hetfeild?! WTH.... nimatoad2000

i doubt suicmez would be high up darth, this isnt a 100 best technically skilled guitar players list, necrophagist isnt really popular... read what i said on the main post. as i said, if it was technically skilled, Iommi wouldnt even be int he book.

Oh, skiped over that part of your post >.> :P
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Sounds about right... Dave Mustaine is one of the most devoted guys to his band I've ever seen.He writes all the songs, he sings while playing some killer riffs, and he can dish out a mean solo too.Plus, not many people could get kicked out and deserted by their best friends, far far away from home and get over it the way he did.

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20. Herman Li

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[QUOTE="BeepBoop16"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]

20. Herman Li

stupid picture QUOTE] its not my list dude, so dont be posting your facepalm pix here, its the top 20 list from a BOOK.. if your upset about the list.. email the guy.
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[QUOTE="BeepBoop16"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]

20. Herman Li

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stupid picture QUOTE] its not my list dude, so dont be posting your facepalm pix here, its the top 20 list from a BOOK.. if your upset about the list.. email the guy.

No, I won't email him. I will facepalm his list. It will hurt him more that way.

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Herman Li shouldn't be in that list. He's terribly sloppy.
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Sounds about right... Dave Mustaine is one of the most devoted guys to his band I've ever seen.He writes all the songs, he sings while playing some killer riffs, and he can dish out a mean solo too.Plus, not many people could get kicked out and deserted by their best friends, far far away from home and get over it the way he did.

-Misanthropic-
Get over it? He complains about it plenty.
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[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

Sounds about right... Dave Mustaine is one of the most devoted guys to his band I've ever seen.He writes all the songs, he sings while playing some killer riffs, and he can dish out a mean solo too.Plus, not many people could get kicked out and deserted by their best friends, far far away from home and get over it the way he did.

Luncbox1

Get over it? He complains about it plenty.

What else could he say when in every single interview he ever done, the subject of his ejection from Metallica came up? :|

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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

Sounds about right... Dave Mustaine is one of the most devoted guys to his band I've ever seen.He writes all the songs, he sings while playing some killer riffs, and he can dish out a mean solo too.Plus, not many people could get kicked out and deserted by their best friends, far far away from home and get over it the way he did.

-Misanthropic-

Get over it? He complains about it plenty.

What else could he say when in every single interview he ever done, the subject of his ejection from Metallica came up? :|

Not be whiney. Say it sucked, sure, but when he talks about it he sounds whiney and annoying.
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[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"] Get over it? He complains about it plenty. Luncbox1

What else could he say when in every single interview he ever done, the subject of his ejection from Metallica came up? :|

Not be whiney. Say it sucked, sure, but when he talks about it he sounds whiney and annoying.

He was just being a ****... That was Dave Mustaine.He's way over it now though.

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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

What else could he say when in every single interview he ever done, the subject of his ejection from Metallica came up? :|

-Misanthropic-

Not be whiney. Say it sucked, sure, but when he talks about it he sounds whiney and annoying.

He was just being a ****... That was Dave Mustaine.He's way over it now though.

'kay. I haven't seen any recent interviews with him. I'm just going by the old ones.
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[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"] Not be whiney. Say it sucked, sure, but when he talks about it he sounds whiney and annoying.Luncbox1

He was just being a ****... That was Dave Mustaine.He's way over it now though.

'kay. I haven't seen any recent interviews with him. I'm just going by the old ones.

He used to do that back in the day though, yeah... besides, I think he earned that right... he got kicked out of the best metal band at the time, and made the band that would always be mentioned in the same breath as them, the next best thing.

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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

He was just being a ****... That was Dave Mustaine.He's way over it now though.

-Misanthropic-

'kay. I haven't seen any recent interviews with him. I'm just going by the old ones.

He used to do that back in the day though, yeah... besides, I think he earned that right... he got kicked out of the best metal band at the time, and made the band that would always be mentioned in the same breath as them, the next best thing.

But I think he gets the last laugh, considering Megadeth still kicks ass and Metallica started sucking in the 90's
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Putting Herman Li in the top 1000 metal guitarists is just an abomination... putting in him the top twenty makes me throw up a little.

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[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

He was just being a ****... That was Dave Mustaine.He's way over it now though.

-Misanthropic-

'kay. I haven't seen any recent interviews with him. I'm just going by the old ones.

he got kicked out of the best metal band at the time,, the next best thing.

 ...lol wut
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Putting Herman Li in the top 1000 metal guitarists is just an abomination... putting in him the top twenty makes me throw up a little.

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*Points to the name right beneath it* Save your disgust for that.....:P
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i think dave is reading the book right now, and saying " HAHA F U KIRK HAMMET I'M #1 ON THIS LIST"
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Dave Mustaine is teh suxors.

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...lolwutDarth-Caedus

You wanted to say something?

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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]...lolwut-Misanthropic-

You wanted to say something?

Metallica are far the the best metal band of all time.......and Megadeth aren't the next best thing....they are far better:P
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Dave Mustaine is teh suxors.

tzar3
lets see quorthon play poison was the cure or good morning black friday.
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[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]...lolwutDarth-Caedus

You wanted to say something?

Metallica are far the the best metal band of all time.......and Megadeth aren't the next best thing....they are far better:P

Oh well I know that... but they were considered by most the best at the time, and he was in them and got kicked out.But yeah... MegaDave are better than Metallica :P

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[QUOTE="tzar3"]

Dave Mustaine is teh suxors.

nimatoad2000

lets see quorthon play poison was the cure or good morning black friday.

Quorthon is to busy drinking Mead in teh Halls Of Valhalla to do so, and enjoying the presence of the norse gods.

Therefore I win.

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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="tzar3"]

Dave Mustaine is teh suxors.

tzar3

lets see quorthon play poison was the cure or good morning black friday.

Quorthon is to busy drinking Mead in teh Halls Of Valhalla to do so, and enjoying the presence of the norse gods.

Therefore I win.

Dave Mustaine lived, died, and came back to life.And is still alive.There.

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[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]...lolwutDarth-Caedus

You wanted to say something?

Metallica are far the the best metal band of all time.......and Megadeth aren't the next best thing....they are far better:P

Mustaine kick ass Hammet

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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

You wanted to say something?

Ulises2012

Metallica are far the the best metal band of all time.......and Megadeth aren't the next best thing....they are far better:P

Mustaine kick ass Hammet

That he does:P
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#37 GTsFrieza
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number 20 and 19 confused me. Why are they on the list?

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Happy to see Hetfield high on that list. Rhythm guitarists don't get enough love.
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[QUOTE="Ulises2012"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"] Metallica are far the the best metal band of all time.......and Megadeth aren't the next best thing....they are far better:PDarth-Caedus

Mustaine kick ass Hammet

That he does:P

And Marty Friedman kicks both their asses (in my opinion).
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number 20 and 19 confused me. Why are they on the list?

GTsFrieza

Seriously, very weird choice since they are both terrible.

Glad to see Mustaine *My 2nd fav guitarist* and Criss Oliva *Fav. by far, see avatar* made the book. Good to see someone write a decent top 100 list. Still, 20 and 19 are very terrible choices.

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guys hetfield is better than hammet. not to mention hetfield contributes soo much more to metallica.. nimatoad2000

agree, hetfields creativity as a guitarist is far superior than kirks technicality.

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4,5,16,20 are the most over rated guitarist

19 should be no where near this list

and i personally would switch mustaine and petrucci.

Dont get me wrong im a dave man, but petrucci is pretty amazing and well rounded

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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="Ulises2012"]Mustaine kick ass Hammet

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That he does:P

And Marty Friedman kicks both their asses (in my opinion).

agree

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#44 GTsFrieza
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I would put Chuck Schuldiner somewhere closer to number 1. He deserves better than 10

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i think 20 and 19 shouldnt even be in the book, and i think marty friedmen shouldve definately been in the top 20. id also put paul gilbert ( racer x, mr big) and either dave murray or adrian smith as well ( or maybee even just put them as one number since theyre as good as eachother and work soo perfectly toghether)
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#46 Saturos3091
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Terrible list, just saw this yesterday. I smiled at over half of it thinking to myself, "Really? Kirk Hammett, James Hetfield, Herman Li, Mick Thompson, Zakk Wylde, and Dave Mustaine?" Mustaine could've been top 15 possibly (Friedman way over him definately), but Hammett, Hetfield, Thompson, Wylde, and Li are not exactly great guitarists. The rest is fine, although Morello shouldn't have been up there either.

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I find it pretty dumb how Alexi Laiho isn't on there while Kerry King is. :?doomsday_selena

True, Alexi is a hell of a guitarist.

Also, can i ask WHY THE HELL IS IOMMY NOT ON THE FRST PLACE?? THAT MAN INVENTED METAL.

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Dave Mustaine is my favorite guitarist :D Chuck Schuldiner should have been on that list :evil:
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="Ulises2012"]Mustaine kick ass Hammet

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That he does:P

And Marty Friedman kicks both their asses (in my opinion).

Malsteem and Michael Angelo kick ass all

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#50 Treytone
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Dave Mustaine is my favorite guitarist :D Chuck Schuldiner should have been on that list :evil: Juggernaut140

Chucks number ten