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#1 Jinroh_basic
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in short - the election results are out, and neither the Labours nor the Conservatives have won enough seats to form a majority, resulting in a hung parliament. either party will now need to reach out to the Liberal Democrats to form a coalition government.

so, your thoughts? are you worried that this will affect Britain's stability, especially if you're a Brit? do you think Gordon Brown will step down? as a new and uncertain era dawns, how would you define the legacy of Labour Party, which has been a close ally of America for the past decade?

Latest development: In an attempt to woo the Lib Dems, Prime Minister Gordon Brown has announced that he will step down as Labour Party leader by September. No matter which camp the Lib Dems choose to ally with, Brown is now at the end of his tenure as the British Prime Minister. All is not lost for the Labour though, as the Lib Dems and the Tories were unable to strike a deal after days of negotiations.

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My main concern is that our Prime Minister was never elected. He basically took over from Blair. I have the feeling he won't give up without a fight. I do hope the Lib Dems and the Conservatives form a coalition. Anyone than Labour, really. :P
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I'm very disappointed by the Liberal Democrat results. I was hoping they'd go up from 62 seats to 80. But it looks like they'll be lucky to get 55. In fact, the best thing that's happened was the Green Party gaining their first MP in Brighton. I'm assuming the Conservatives will form a minority government. If the Liberal Democrats can get a concrete promise on electoral reform, fine. Otherwise, I don't want them to touch the Conservatives at all.
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#4 krazy-blazer
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Conservatives are out of the game, people want liberalism now.
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#5 MushroomWig
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I'm very disappointed by the Liberal Democrat results. I was hoping they'd go up from 62 seats to 80. But it looks like they'll be lucky to get 55.Bourbons3
I'm incredibly happy with the Lib Dem results, I was worried that after the TV debate they would do a lot better than previous elections.
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#6 MushroomWig
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people want liberalism now. krazy-blazer
Speak for yourself.
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#7 tofu-lion91
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As a first time voter I'm a tad disappointed no-one 'won' and I'm worried that Labour and Gordy Brown will cling onto power
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As a first time voter I'm a tad disappointed no-one 'won' and I'm worried that Labour and Gordy Brown will cling onto powertofu-lion91
I can see that happening. :( He doesn't seem the type of person who cares about dignity.
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#9 yellerbelly
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It's a bit of a worry. Still it could have been worse, IMHO. As it stands; the tories are not in charge, the Greens made advances and the BNP are still without a seat. For me, that's not a bad result.
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#10 MushroomWig
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the BNP are still without a seat. yellerbelly

True but it seems that their popularity is up yet again, nearly 550,000 votes alltogether.

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#11 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]I'm very disappointed by the Liberal Democrat results. I was hoping they'd go up from 62 seats to 80. But it looks like they'll be lucky to get 55.MushroomWig
I'm incredibly happy with the Lib Dem results, I was worried that after the TV debate they would do a lot better than previous elections.

And I'm very happy with Nick Griffin not even managing second-place in my constituency of Barking, or in Dagenham.
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#12 Wolls
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I was also disapointed by the Lib Dem results, thought they might get a few more seats but it looks like he might have got more power anyway. I wouldnt be too bothered if Gordeon Brown held on to the PM seat. He hasnt been too bad imo and i do like him more than Cameron. Im happy that the Green party got a seat though :)
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#13 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"] I can see that happening. :( He doesn't seem the type of person who cares about dignity.

Yep unfortunately. If the tories get the most votes and seats they should be allowed to run the country. I voted Lib Dem but I'd happily have the Conservatives running things if it means a stable gov, a weak coalition with Labour clinging on is the last thing we need.
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#14 yellerbelly
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[QUOTE="yellerbelly"]the BNP are still without a seat. MushroomWig

True but it seems that their popularity is up yet again, nearly 550,000 votes alltogether.

Indeed, they are so popular that even their own party leader came 3rd in his own constituency and with a reduced share of the votes than last time around. Like I said - a good result :)
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#15 Wolls
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]

[QUOTE="yellerbelly"]the BNP are still without a seat. yellerbelly

True but it seems that their popularity is up yet again, nearly 550,000 votes alltogether.

Indeed, they are so popular that even their own party leader came 3rd in his own constituency and with a reduced share of the votes than last time around. Like I said - a good result :)

Well its odd cos they got more in the European elections but less now. It seems like people just dont want them in the houses of parliament but dont mind them in Europe.
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#16 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]

[QUOTE="yellerbelly"]the BNP are still without a seat. yellerbelly

True but it seems that their popularity is up yet again, nearly 550,000 votes alltogether.

Indeed, they are so popular that even their own party leader came 3rd in his own constituency and with a reduced share of the votes than last time around. Like I said - a good result :)

I didn't say things turned out exactly how they wanted, I'm just saying that the overall votes were higher for them this time around, Hell they had twice as many votes as the Green party so it's pretty amazing that they didn't manage to get one seat like they did.
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#17 yellerbelly
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] I can see that happening. :( He doesn't seem the type of person who cares about dignity.

Yep unfortunately. If the tories get the most votes and seats they should be allowed to run the country. I voted Lib Dem but I'd happily have the Conservatives running things if it means a stable gov, a weak coalition with Labour clinging on is the last thing we need.

In my opinion, a tory government is the last thing we need. I'm no fan of Brown, but I think he said best with..."'Usually in time of difficulty the few who have money help the many; only the Conservative Party says that in time of difficulty the many should come to the aid of the few'." Referencing the pledge to cut inheritance tax for the richest 3,000 estates in the country. Then again, I was unlucky enough to live through the Thatcher years and have my parents nearly lose their house when interest rates hit 19%....
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]As a first time voter I'm a tad disappointed no-one 'won' and I'm worried that Labour and Gordy Brown will cling onto powerMushroomWig
I can see that happening. :( He doesn't seem the type of person who cares about dignity.

He's experinced though.
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#19 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="yellerbelly"] In my opinion, a tory government is the last thing we need. I'm no fan of Brown, but I think he said best with..."'Usually in time of difficulty the few who have money help the many; only the Conservative Party says that in time of difficulty the many should come to the aid of the few'." Referencing the pledge to cut inheritance tax for the richest 3,000 estates in the country. Then again, I was unlucky enough to live through the Thatcher years and have my parents nearly lose their house when interest rates hit 19%....

I only agree with tories on 4 areas whereas I agree with Labour and Lib Dem on 6 areas but I'd much rather have a Conservative government than this unstable hung parliament. And Brown's had the last 4 years to show that he can change things, regardless of whether I agree with their policies, Labour has been doing sweet **** all.
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#20 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="rockerbikie"] He's experinced though.

Yeh in being awkward and fumbling about with the country - fantastic :|
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#21 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]As a first time voter I'm a tad disappointed no-one 'won' and I'm worried that Labour and Gordy Brown will cling onto powerrockerbikie
I can see that happening. :( He doesn't seem the type of person who cares about dignity.

He's experinced though.

Not as PM, and the people didn't even elect him, he only came into power because Tony Blair stepped down, he should just accept that the people don't want him to be PM.
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#22 tofu-lion91
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Not as PM, and the people didn't even elect him, he only came into power because Tony Blair stepped down, he should just accept that the people don't want him to be PM.MushroomWig

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Gordon/

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#23 yellerbelly
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I only agree with tories on 4 areas whereas I agree with Labour and Lib Dem on 6 areas but I'd much rather have a Conservative government than this unstable hung parliament. And Brown's had the last 4 years to show that he can change things, regardless of whether I agree with their policies, Labour has been doing sweet **** all.tofu-lion91
Unfortunately you don't vote in just the 4 areas you agree with. You vote in the the lot.
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Not as PM, and the people didn't even elect him, he only came into power because Tony Blair stepped down, he should just accept that the people don't want him to be PM.tofu-lion91

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Gordon/

Haha, so depressing. xD
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Not as PM, and the people didn't even elect him, he only came into power because Tony Blair stepped down, he should just accept that the people don't want him to be PM.tofu-lion91

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Gordon/

:lol: aww maybe we can swap Gordon for one of the politicians with funky music :P
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#26 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="yellerbelly"] Unfortunately you don't vote in just the 4 areas you agree with. You vote in the the lot.

Yes which is why I voted Lib Dem. What I'm saying is I agree with tories the LEAST but I'd much rather put them into power and have a stable government.
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#27 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Not as PM, and the people didn't even elect him, he only came into power because Tony Blair stepped down, he should just accept that the people don't want him to be PM.Wolls

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Gordon/

:lol: aww maybe we can swap Gordon for one of the politicians with funky music :P

Pfft, he wouldn't suit it. ;)
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#28 yellerbelly
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[QUOTE="rockerbikie"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] I can see that happening. :( He doesn't seem the type of person who cares about dignity.MushroomWig
He's experinced though.

Not as PM, and the people didn't even elect him, he only came into power because Tony Blair stepped down, he should just accept that the people don't want him to be PM.

He's not experienced as PM? That's odd - who has been living at number 10 then? People don't elect the person, they elect the party. People wanted a Labour government and the Labour Government wanted Gordon Brown as PM.
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#29 Wolls
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="yellerbelly"] Unfortunately you don't vote in just the 4 areas you agree with. You vote in the the lot.

Yes which is why I voted Lib Dem. What I'm saying is I agree with tories the LEAST but I'd much rather put them into power and have a stable government.

A hung parliament isnt necessarily a bad thing though, there can be good areas of it from what i can see. Seems like parties might actually have to co-operate more and that might be a good thing.
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He's not experienced as PM? That's odd - who has been living at number 10 then? yellerbelly
Someone who only moved in because their leader stepped down, Tony Blair had 10 years experience as PM, Brown has only 2-3 years. After the mess he has caused, people simply do not want him as PM, which is why he lost the election, he just needs to do everyone a favour and step down.
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[QUOTE="yellerbelly"]He's not experienced as PM? That's odd - who has been living at number 10 then? MushroomWig
Someone who only moved in because their leader stepped down, Tony Blair had 10 years experience as PM, Brown has only 2-3 years. After the mess he has caused, people simply do not want him as PM, which is why he lost the election, he just needs to do everyone a favour and step down.

Well to be fair non of the others have ANY experience :P I dont know, i just see Cameron as a bit slimy
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You know i would rather have conservatives in even thoe i have a feeling they will do more harm than good. Watch out for ALOT of public spending cuts in the near furture.. Thoe North of Ireland will be hit bad by them im hoping making the south seem more appealing to the people here after that :P

Still was good to see the Alliance party take over the East Belfast seat from the DUP.

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i just see Cameron as a bit slimy Wolls
Lol, aren't they all? :P
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="yellerbelly"] Unfortunately you don't vote in just the 4 areas you agree with. You vote in the the lot.

Yes which is why I voted Lib Dem. What I'm saying is I agree with tories the LEAST but I'd much rather put them into power and have a stable government.

you can still have a stable minority government.
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#35 Wolls
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[QUOTE="Wolls"]i just see Cameron as a bit slimy MushroomWig
Lol, aren't they all? :P

Lol i dont know, Brown looks like he used to be a big teddy bear but now hes got a bit old and dripping with puss :P

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="Wolls"]i just see Cameron as a bit slimy Wolls

Lol, aren't they all? :P

Lol i dont know, Brown looks like he used to be a big teddy bear but now hes got a bit old and dripping with puss :P

Blugh, do not want!
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#37 Wolls
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Well seems like they're now talking about having another election next year so this hung parliament might not last too long anyway.
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Even though the Conservatives didn't get the majority, they still got more seats than Labour. Gordon Brown won't care about that though. This man is arrogant beyond belief. He thinks he knows better than everyone else and if there's a possibility that he can cling onto power, he'll grab it with both hands. He's already shown what he thinks of democracy by grabbing power from Blair and refusing the country the right to vote in a referendum on the EU constitution. It's time for Brown to go. He should've never been Prime Minister in the first place.
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noone likes a sore loser, Clegg would be foolish to deal with Brown, I'm certain working with him would cut LDs popularity.

It would most definately lose him any respect that i have

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#40 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="Wolls"] A hung parliament isnt necessarily a bad thing though, there can be good areas of it from what i can see. Seems like parties might actually have to co-operate more and that might be a good thing.

Cameron and Clegg are very much alike in personality and I doubt they could co-operate
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I'm glad I voted Labour and I don't have to feel guilty in six months when Cameron has messed up our economic recovery...

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#42 CBR600-RR
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Cameron only cares about rich people.

Did you see on the news that Wythenshawe voters were turned away and not allowed to vote. That area doesn't have many wealthy people, it's mainly lower class. Co-incidence much? T_T

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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="Wolls"] A hung parliament isnt necessarily a bad thing though, there can be good areas of it from what i can see. Seems like parties might actually have to co-operate more and that might be a good thing.

Cameron and Clegg are very much alike in personality and I doubt they could co-operate

Yea i agree with that, and from what ive seen it looks like Cameron doesnt want to combine with Clegg anyway, so that might mean that Brown and Clegg go into power instead because of their similar policies etc. I guess its just a wait and see thing now
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[QUOTE="Wolls"] Yea i agree with that, and from what ive seen it looks like Cameron doesnt want to combine with Clegg anyway, so that might mean that Brown and Clegg go into power instead because of their similar policies etc. I guess its just a wait and see thing now

I heard Clegg was backing the Conservatives which people are complaining about. Everyone liked Clegg cause he's fair and now he's being fair and saying "Ok the Conservatives got the most votes" everyone's annoyed :?
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A hung parliament isnt necessarily a bad thing though, there can be good areas of it from what i can see. Seems like parties might actually have to co-operate more and that might be a good thing.Wolls

A hung Parliament could be a disaster. the economic market moves too quickly for a hung parliament to make good decisions for the country, it could be a disaster for recovery

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[QUOTE="Wolls"][QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="Wolls"] A hung parliament isnt necessarily a bad thing though, there can be good areas of it from what i can see. Seems like parties might actually have to co-operate more and that might be a good thing.

Cameron and Clegg are very much alike in personality and I doubt they could co-operate

Yea i agree with that, and from what ive seen it looks like Cameron doesnt want to combine with Clegg anyway, so that might mean that Brown and Clegg go into power instead because of their similar policies etc. I guess its just a wait and see thing now

Cameron will probably go for a minority government. He's only going to end up 20 seats short of a majority. On a lot of issues, the opposition would probably split, so he'd still get things through. It's his only option, otherwise he'll have to give up certain policies to woo the Lib Dems.
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[QUOTE="Wolls"] Yea i agree with that, and from what ive seen it looks like Cameron doesnt want to combine with Clegg anyway, so that might mean that Brown and Clegg go into power instead because of their similar policies etc. I guess its just a wait and see thing nowtofu-lion91
I heard Clegg was backing the Conservatives which people are complaining about. Everyone liked Clegg cause he's fair and now he's being fair and saying "Ok the Conservatives got the most votes" everyone's annoyed :?

they are annoyed because they are the people who voted lib dem and have now realised they just voted Conservative

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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="Wolls"] I heard Clegg was backing the Conservatives which people are complaining about. Everyone liked Clegg cause he's fair and now he's being fair and saying "Ok the Conservatives got the most votes" everyone's annoyed :?

Well hes keeping his promise from what he said that he would back the vote leader like you said. But from what i hear Cameron doesnt want to join with him for some reason :?

[QUOTE="Wolls"] A hung parliament isnt necessarily a bad thing though, there can be good areas of it from what i can see. Seems like parties might actually have to co-operate more and that might be a good thing.gamedude2020

A hung Parliament could be a disaster. the economic market moves too quickly for a hung parliament to make good decisions for the country, it could be a disaster for recovery

Not necessarily. From what i understand alot of european countries have a hung parliment
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Um. My assesssment is as follows: the Tories will form a minority government, and thus the country will be ****ed.
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Did you see on the news that Wythenshawe voters were turned away and not allowed to vote. That area doesn't have many wealthy people, it's mainly lower class. Co-incidence much? T_TCBR600-RR
What are you implying? :/