Deadpool 2 is better than Infinity War

Well, it shouldn't be hard to be better than Infinity War.

While Infinity War feels like an acceptable part of cinema worth seeing, it's really clear with what critics have been saying that it is "less of a movie and more of an event" when watching the other comic book movies released so far this year.

I thought Deadpool 2 was a fine ensemble comic film that showed off what a comic book movie can be all about. There's more emotional and character depth in Deadpool than him just being a nihilistic character. This movie lays down that the character also has morals and confronts him with the dilemma of when his loved ones get killed and he's stuck being immortal.

I thought that Domino was absolutely fantastic. I think part of her dynamic and entertainment value is the fact Deadpool largely doesn't take her "luck" as a serious power but then as she skates through the movie while stealing much of the great action, it leaves the audience to believe otherwise. I would absolutely be thrilled to see more Domino in future movies.

I liked Cable as the "straight guy" dynamic with a very pansexual Deadpool, but Cable left more to be desired. Speaking of that, I think the LGBT community is going to be all over this one, because the movie does not hold itself back at all on DP's pansexual antics.

The first Deadpool movie made a joke that they "couldn't afford more X-Men" but this time they really double-downed on the presence of X-Men, and it really has that flare but with Deadpool as the center piece of attention. I really appreciate how much DP2 is a livable shared universe of its own and can sustain itself without the MCU.

I think the movie does so many things right with getting Deadpool's characteristics done right: he has a soft-spot for youth and his true acts of heroism is when kids are involved, he's pansexual and he will flirt with anything, loads of meta humor, and he just fucks around with anything.

One of the biggest movie stars in the business is also in this movie and DP2 did the funniest thing which directly makes fun of how all these comic book movies just cast all these big-name actors. The ultimate post-credit scene is here too, and I'm not sure post-credit scenes can be topped now.

Other note: I just have a feeling that they are going to secretly merge the Deadpool/X-Men universe with the MCU. There was a lot of MCU references in DP2. When he meets Cable his reaction went something like "you are just a guy with a Winter Soldier arm." and other MCU references throughout. There was some Disney references too. I have a strong suspicion that DP2 is considering and setting up a stage for a potential merge with Disney.

@jaydan: Pansexual? Is being Bisexual just a taboo phrase?

Nope. Being pansexual and bisexual are completely different things. Being bisexual means going both ways, you can be attracted to both a male or a female. Being a pansexual means you can be attracted to anything, including a lamp or a roller coaster, or anything that's not gender-specific.

With that said, Deadpool is pansexual going off his comic book history. He's flirted and fallen in love with some pretty random things.

I haven't seen DP2 yet, but Infinity War was quite literally a perfect telling of the Thanos story, from what they had spent 9 years building towards. I'm sure DP2 is a helluva fun ride, but it isn't a mountain peak of story-building that was finally conquered.

Give it a few weeks, let it settle a bit. Maybe watch both again before asserting it to be a "greater" film.

If all you are talking about is "you enjoyed it more" then great, I'm sure plenty of people will enjoy DP2 more, it's an R-rated comic-book comedy extravaganza.

Infinity War is like a finely crafted cognac aged for 25 years. DP2 is like a keg of Budweiser. Both will get you drunk, but one isn't meant to be enjoyed for the sake of getting drunk.

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@foxhound_fox: I saw Infinity War twice in theaters and in my opinion I'm good on watching it until at least home release. Don't get me wrong, I love the shit out of Infinity War. I think the film should be best understood with Thanos being the main character. It's a villain's movie, perfectly made - but also a taxing experience with its melancholy tone. I appreciate the shit out of it and it excites me for the next chapter, but Thanos is the one that goes on the biggest journey as far as the plot goes. Overall Infinity War felt like a thrill ride kind of experience. Some characters had little to no development whatsoever but they were in there to make their screen-time. I suspect some of the underutilized characters in the next Avengers will get major spotlights so I honestly have pending views on Infinity War until we get the next Avengers. After all, both Avengers 3 and 4 were originally shot as Part 1 and Part 2 movies.

While I really marvel at Infinity War as an experience and truly one of the ultimate comic book wetdreams conceived on film, it still very much felt like that kid who had all the cool action figures and put them all on display to their jealous friend only to whip them all back out of view. I can really appreciate what Infinity War does and the sheer epicness of the events that play in the movie, it also feels an awful like we never got to spend enough time with the majority of the characters to develop full commitment to their roles. We have developed commitment to most of the Marvel characters, but all of that commitment was developed in other movies, not Infinity War.

Infinity War was a very risky film that's going down in history as one of the ultimate movie and comic cross-over projects, but I feel like in 2018 with comic films like Black Panther and Deadpool 2 - we're really seeing the true potential of comic book storytelling when they are more condensed on the characters and story.

I can go on with Black Panther and how much I like it, but it's the most condensed in its own world despite being connected to a larger universe. Deadpool 2 played with that ultimate comic movie mashup for me that I just loved about Civil War and Ragnarok - when they have really interesting character mashups and how things become more like a soap opera. DP2 introduces all these new characters. Domino was awesome and Cable was awesome however I desire more to his story. For the most part, I felt like DP2 does a great deal better spending time with the characters and there's new developments in most of them plus introducing colorful new ones. Everyone has a different persona and I especially saw how Deadpool, Domino and Cable have awesome dynamic with each personality and I would love to keep seeing them team up...a couple other characters but I won't spoil.

A lot of the meta humor just worked. Actually, there was several meta moments in the movie that legit made me gasp...One of those moments was the post-credit scene and possibly one of the best post-credit scenes I've ever seen. If the meta can legit make me react in a Deadpool movie, I think the meta has done me right.

While Infinity War is a pivotal cross-over event that's important, DP2 overall feels like the complete movie whereas Infinity War is a definite part 1 of a 2 part event.

Nah, Infinity War was better. So was Black Panther and the first Guardians movie.

That being said, I was laughing alot. It was better than the first Deadpool.

What was the post credit scene again in DP2?

The time traveling thing?

@AFBrat77: What did you think of Brad Pitt playing the Vanisher?

@jaydan:

Haha, that's hilarious, I totally missed that. I guess you only see him for a second or 2.

I liked the movie, so I will probably see it a 2nd time, and I will have to check that out.

I was actually disappointed by Deadpool 2. It's actually a pretty good movie, but I feel like it falls WAY short of DP1. This is probably due in part to all the stuff you said about him getting more character development and depth. In the first movie all he does is crack wise and curse, but for most of this movie he's sulking on a pity trip. That means it's up to other characters to provide the usually Deadpool comic relief while he plays it relatively straight. I have to say, I was a little put off by the whole Colossus/Deadpool role reversal. That's probably one of my biggest complaints, is that everyone seems to be cracking wise and cursing up a storm EXCEPT Deadpool.

The humor that's there also lost a bit of its edge. The humor in the movie feels more like dudebro comedy than in DP1. The biggest laugh the entire night was a sight gag and, while funny, it's the sort of thing that a movie like the Hangover relies on, not Deadpool. There wasn't anything as smart as "are you there god, it's me margaret" or "fourth wall break inside a fourth wall break? That's like, sixteen walls!" There wasn't anything as goofy as "you're about to be run over by a zamboni! In like five minutes!" The comedy is just not as good as in DP1, and it is more spread out. DP1 was non-stop, wall to wall jokes. DP2 intersperses them with a lot more plot and character development. That works in a certain sense, but it robs it of the anarchistic, nihilistic quality that made DP1 so special. I'll also say that the comedy is a lot more esoteric. My second-biggest laugh of the night was the dig at BvS, and I couldn't see in the dark but I could swear the entire theater turned and looked at me thinking I was a crazy person. Don't get me wrong, I love that kind of humor, but it is really off-putting to people who aren't in on the joke. DP1 interspersed that sort of humor with jokes that appeal to a broader audience, whereas DP2 pretty much relies on that sort of humor. That makes the movie more inaccessible to non-comic book fans, maybe even a bunch of comic book fans who aren't hardcore.

That being said it was a good movie, just not a good Deadpool movie. What it really was is a good X-Men movie with Deadpool in it. It's a really good teamup movie that skewers the concept of teamup movies, AND it shows some classic X-Men characters in ways that do their comic book counterparts justice (you know the one I'm talking about). Cable is awesome, his fight scenes are awesome, and he has a good redemptive arc. And Domino steals the fricking show. Seriously, she's amazing. That being said, it's not Infinity War or Black Panther. They both handle the drama better and do a job of building actual suspense. I just don't think you can do a Deadpool movie, where he's breaking the fourth wall, cracking jokes, and swearing with every other word, and still maintain the suspenseful feel and big dramatic moments of those films. I think Infinity War almost ran into the same problem with some of its jokes, and they didn't go half as far as Deadpool 2. That's the conundrum of Deadpool becoming a household name, is that now he's gotta be in all these brand-building movies that he was previously skewering. He's still acting like Deadpool, which makes the suspenseful drama hard to do, but he's adding in character and world-building, which makes the anarchic humor harder to do. It's just like this weird middle ground that tries to be two different things and doesn't really succeed at being either.

Oh, and just because I like creating ****storms, this:

I think the thing for me is, the MCU in general has become too self-serious and dramatic to be enjoyable. I enjoyed Infinity War, but I didn't walk away from it feeling as good as I did with Thor: Ragnarok, or Black Panther. It also didn't feel like a complete movie, which is because it isn't, obviously.

Deadpool 2 was plenty fun and had a fair mix of comedy and story. I think maybe they went a bit over the top with some of the more serious moments of the movie, but as my buddy pointed out, that was mainly to parody recent superhero movies that are too serious. And by the end of the film, a lot of that didn't matter anyway, which I think was pretty genius in a way, lol.

Was't feeling it. Josh Bolin was great though, i'd watch a Cable movie.

That might be a very true statement, your final paragraph. The final scene with Deadpool's "death" and saying goodbye to everyone was stretched long as well, obviously for comedic effect. Of course Deadpool can't die, but there's a parody going on there. I think your friend's statement might be true because at the end of the day none of any of the events mattered when it all got reversed back to normal.

While I believe Infinity War stimulates the most discussion considering the movie is such a spoiler frenzy, overall I enjoyed Thor Ragnarok, Black Panther and Deadpool 2 as more enjoyable movies. I do certainly enjoy the entertainment value of all those films better. While Black Panther had a celebratory tone, it was all warranted because Black Panther was a king's story. Ragnarok and DP2 had goofier dynamics yet they were blasts to watch. The character mashups were awesome. It wasn't just Thor, Loki and Hulk teaming up in Ragnarok, we got to see new dynamics to these characters and new developments in them. DP2 too, while most of them are new characters in his ensemble, Domino and Cable are such colorful characters of their own DP2 leaves me eager to see more about these characters.

While Infinity War is going down in the film history books for all its obvious reasons, I don't think it's the most enjoyable comic book movie of 2018 just from sheer entertainment value.

It was alright. Better than the first one.

Deadpool feels like it’s made for 13 year olds. JUST 13...it’s too violent for 12 year olds but honestly even at 14 I would have felt too old for its brand of “zany” humor.

Deadpool 2 is more serious and more interesting than I thought it will. Although I thought it will be great! I very like Deadpool 2. Infinity war is important movie. And I like it too. A lot of people waited this. It's a part of great story. So, I think these are different movies! The comparison is not correct.

Infinity War was a straight up piece of shit. So yeah, Deadpool 2 was millions of miles better! I saw Spiderman die in Infinity and was alot happier than I was sad. God I hate Tom Holland!!

Yeah Deadpool 2 was better, I love both films too but Deadpool 2 I enjoyed more.

Apart from the comedy & being great it also managed to give me feels at a certain part, and how good was the sound track.

This film made me realise what a gut wrenching sad sang Aha's "take on me" is.

It was okay. I think it suffered by not being fresh since it was a sequel.

I preferred IW. Despite the cliffhanger ending and the multitude of gripes I have with the movie the sheer scope of it alone makes it more satisfying to watch.

When I watched Deadpool part 1 I get amazed. What an interesting movie. I think that Deadpool 2 is also good

It is and there are many reasons behind it
Infinity wars disappointed me as i was waiting for this movie desperately

Deadpool 2 was a cute jokefest but it will be forgettable, Infinity War was epic and will be remembered years from now a la original trilogy of Star Wars as long as the sequel is great as well, and I see no evidence that it won't be. The 2 infinity Wars movies will likely go down as classics, Deadpool 2.....not so much.

As I see it. I think many of the people who put down Infinity War here likely went in with sky-high expectations and could only be dissapointed.

While Deadpool 2 was funny (some of the bits dragged on too long), it doesn't hold a candle to Infinity War.

I agree with your Deadpool assessment but I disagree with your Marvel assessment. Really Marvel movies lose something on second viewings. They are fine summer action movies but nothing substantial beyond that.

@LJS9502_basic:

I see things a little different then you in this case, I enjoyed infinity Wars better each succeeding of the 3 times I saw it. I wouldn't say most of the Marvel movies will go down as classics, but Infinity War with its all-star cast, action packed drama over 2.5 hours, good sense of comedy, and being among the most watched and talked about movies of all time will make it and it's sequel classics down the road.

The narrative bothered me because there were a few ways to stop Thanos and they didn't. They had a story idea and they pushed it without making sure it made sense.

Just saw it. Was absolutely hilarious and fun from start to finish, but it's not the better movie. Josh Brolin is possibly the greatest brooding badass though. Holy hell, that voice. I've got a man crush on that voice.

I've seen both and honestly I still liked Infinity War better. DP2 was a fun watch but after a while one can only, for me at least, deal with the 4th wall and low brow jokes for so long. But if one likes it more than Infinity war go for it.