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Derren Brown will try to predict the National Lottery numbers live on TV this week.

Channel 4 will screen Brown's attempt to call the Wednesday night draw across its five channels - the first time the broadcaster has given over its entire network to a single event - and in a separate show on Friday he will tell viewers how he did it.

The stunt marks the start of a new series of television tricks from Brown, whose past shows have seen him perform Russian Roulette live, apparently contact the dead in an interactive seance and convince members of the public to take part in the robbery of an armoured security van.

Details of the Lottery trick, to be shown as the draw is made live on BBC One at 10.35pm on Wednesday, are being kept a close secret, but Brown said he was looking forward to the show.

"I realise there are a lot of questions this brings up, and I hope they'll be answered on the Friday night show," he said.

"For now, I'm really excited and really nervous and cannot tell you for sure how well it will work. Some things just have to be tried."

A spokesman for the Lottery said that 70 per cent of the adult population of the UK would be trying to emulate Brown's trick and guess the numbers.

"It is impossible to affect the outcome of the draw and Derren Brown is not suggesting he is doing this," the spokesman said.

"Derren Brown is an illusionist creating an illusion that he can predict the numbers. We wish Derren, but more importantly our players, the best of luck."

Should be entertaining.

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He will fail, and I will laugh.
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well shouldn't he have won it by now if he was psychic? Sounds dumb lol
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This should be interesting.
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well shouldn't he have won it by now if he was psychic? Sounds dumb lolMETALM1LITIA91
he's not psychic. he's the first to tell you that
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If he could guess all of the right numbers for the lottery, he should of won it a few times by now.
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If he could guess all of the right numbers for the lottery, he should of won it a few times by now.CajunCeltic
Good point although of course he would have only have done it once otherwise it would be suspicious. But to be honest if he can do it, he might not have done it in the past because it would probably ruin his career.
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[QUOTE="CajunCeltic"]If he could guess all of the right numbers for the lottery, he should of won it a few times by now.fracot
Good point although of course he would have only have done it once otherwise it would be suspicious. But to be honest if he can do it, he might not have done it in the past because it would probably ruin his career.

If I was him I would not just do it once, I would atleast do it twice. Each time when I would win it I would make sure the jackpot is a rather large amount.
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[QUOTE="fracot"][QUOTE="CajunCeltic"]If he could guess all of the right numbers for the lottery, he should of won it a few times by now.CajunCeltic
Good point although of course he would have only have done it once otherwise it would be suspicious. But to be honest if he can do it, he might not have done it in the past because it would probably ruin his career.

If I was him I would not just do it once, I would atleast do it twice. Each time when I would win it I would make sure the jackpot is a rather large amount.

But the chances of someone winning the lottery twice are so low. I mean I don't think it has ever happened before...
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[QUOTE="CajunCeltic"][QUOTE="fracot"] Good point although of course he would have only have done it once otherwise it would be suspicious. But to be honest if he can do it, he might not have done it in the past because it would probably ruin his career.fracot
If I was him I would not just do it once, I would atleast do it twice. Each time when I would win it I would make sure the jackpot is a rather large amount.

But the chances of someone winning the lottery twice are so low. I mean I don't think it has ever happened before...

I do not think anyone has ever done this before but if I could predict the lottery I would love to be the first one.

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Oh snap, another one of his systems. I really hope he does get it because that would be just absolutely mind blowing.

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This should be good, he always makes me go >> :shock: woah... :P

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Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.

pretty sure it wasn't pre recorded
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If he could guess all of the right numbers for the lottery, he should of won it a few times by now.CajunCeltic
That is just what I was thinking...
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.

pretty sure it wasn't pre recorded

I'm pretty sure you have no proof it was 100% live. and logically, if you were going to do this trick that is the easiest way to do it.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.

pretty sure it wasn't pre recorded

I'm pretty sure you have no proof it was 100% live. and logically, if you were going to do this trick that is the easiest way to do it.

He reveals how he did it this week sometime.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.

pretty sure it wasn't pre recorded

I'm pretty sure you have no proof it was 100% live. and logically, if you were going to do this trick that is the easiest way to do it.

split screen video from both C4 and BBC1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxua_V1AcM&feature=related . i realize it was a trick but being prerecorded aint it
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"] pretty sure it wasn't pre recorded

I'm pretty sure you have no proof it was 100% live. and logically, if you were going to do this trick that is the easiest way to do it.

split screen video from both C4 and BBC1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxua_V1AcM&feature=related . i realize it was a trick but being prerecorded aint it

You don't understand, someone in a studio recording with a camera doesn't mean the video is being broadcasted on TV instantly. I could record a video now and put it on youtube in 10 hours time, you understand? I'm not saying this is how he did it, I'm saying this is the most plausible. Let me further explain. The lottery is drawn at 10:20 in a studio with hundreds of people inside the studio watching. One guy watching is Derren's friend, he txts him the numbers as soon as they are drawn. Derren picks up the correct balls and puts them on the stall. Then the lottery is shown on television at 10:35. ie. they recorded it 10 minutes prior to it being shown.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] I'm pretty sure you have no proof it was 100% live. and logically, if you were going to do this trick that is the easiest way to do it.

split screen video from both C4 and BBC1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxua_V1AcM&feature=related . i realize it was a trick but being prerecorded aint it

You don't understand, someone in a studio recording with a camera doesn't mean the video is being broadcasted on TV instantly. I could record a video now and put it on youtube in 10 hours time, you understand? I'm not saying this is how he did it, I'm saying this is the most plausible. Let me further explain. The lottery is drawn at 10:20 in a studio with hundreds of people inside the studio watching. One guy watching is Derren's friend, he txts him the numbers as soon as they are drawn. Derren picks up the correct balls and puts them on the stall. Then the lottery is shown on television at 10:35. ie. they recorded it 10 minutes prior to it being shown.

did you watch it
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"] split screen video from both C4 and BBC1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxua_V1AcM&feature=related . i realize it was a trick but being prerecorded aint it

You don't understand, someone in a studio recording with a camera doesn't mean the video is being broadcasted on TV instantly. I could record a video now and put it on youtube in 10 hours time, you understand? I'm not saying this is how he did it, I'm saying this is the most plausible. Let me further explain. The lottery is drawn at 10:20 in a studio with hundreds of people inside the studio watching. One guy watching is Derren's friend, he txts him the numbers as soon as they are drawn. Derren picks up the correct balls and puts them on the stall. Then the lottery is shown on television at 10:35. ie. they recorded it 10 minutes prior to it being shown.

did you watch it

:roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] You don't understand, someone in a studio recording with a camera doesn't mean the video is being broadcasted on TV instantly. I could record a video now and put it on youtube in 10 hours time, you understand? I'm not saying this is how he did it, I'm saying this is the most plausible. Let me further explain. The lottery is drawn at 10:20 in a studio with hundreds of people inside the studio watching. One guy watching is Derren's friend, he txts him the numbers as soon as they are drawn. Derren picks up the correct balls and puts them on the stall. Then the lottery is shown on television at 10:35. ie. they recorded it 10 minutes prior to it being shown.

did you watch it

:roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.

Are you speaking about the lottery part, or the Darren part?
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"] did you watch it

:roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.

Are you speaking about the lottery part, or the Darren part?

the lottery Lottery = recorded at 10:20 Lottery shown on television = 10:35 in that 10/15 minute space someone told Derren the numbers before it was shown on television.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] :roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.

The lottery is a live show.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] :roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.

Are you speaking about the lottery part, or the Darren part?

the lottery Lottery = recorded at 10:20 Lottery shown on television = 10:35 in that 10/15 minute space someone told Derren the numbers before it was shown on television.

Nevermind then :P
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[QUOTE="AnObscureName"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] :roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.

The lottery is a live show.

Prove it. and even if it usually is a live show who's to say derren's producers didn't pay them to record it 5 minutes earlier, like i said it's amazing "advertising" for his new series. and I'm just saying this is the most logical, I'm sure the same affect can be achieved through camera trickery.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] :roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.

The lottery is a live show.

Prove it. and even if it usually is a live show who's to say derren's producers didn't pay them to record it 5 minutes earlier, like i said it's amazing "advertising" for his new series. and I'm just saying this is the most logical, I'm sure the same affect can be achieved through camera trickery.

i think derren brown paying the BBC to pre record the national lottery so he could advertise his new TV show on a rival TV network would be more impressive than actually predicting the numbers
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] :roll: did you read my post just because it was showed at 10:35 that does not mean it was recorded at 10:35, I'm not sure how simpler I can make this.

The lottery is a live show.

Prove it. and even if it usually is a live show who's to say derren's producers didn't pay them to record it 5 minutes earlier, like i said it's amazing "advertising" for his new series. and I'm just saying this is the most logical, I'm sure the same affect can be achieved through camera trickery.

If they changed just this once then it would comprimise the whole draw and everyone who bought a ticket would be entitled to a refund on the ticket.
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="AnObscureName"] The lottery is a live show.

Prove it. and even if it usually is a live show who's to say derren's producers didn't pay them to record it 5 minutes earlier, like i said it's amazing "advertising" for his new series. and I'm just saying this is the most logical, I'm sure the same affect can be achieved through camera trickery.

i think derren brown paying the BBC to pre record the national lottery so he could advertise his new TV show on a rival TV network would be more impressive than actually predicting the numbers

1 in 14 million vs "here's a bunch of cash, draw the lottery 5 minutes earlier than usual" he mightn't have even needed to do that, we presume the lottery is drawn live but for all we know it could have been recorded 5 minutes ago... I take that over camera trickery/super magic/psychology or whatever you believe.
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Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.Brainkiller05

If only you watched Derren Brown's shows, he's an illusionist and mentalist, the things he can do are amazing. He already predicted the lottery yesterday, he's going to tell us how he did it tomorrow which is friday.

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[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] Prove it. and even if it usually is a live show who's to say derren's producers didn't pay them to record it 5 minutes earlier, like i said it's amazing "advertising" for his new series. and I'm just saying this is the most logical, I'm sure the same affect can be achieved through camera trickery. Brainkiller05
i think derren brown paying the BBC to pre record the national lottery so he could advertise his new TV show on a rival TV network would be more impressive than actually predicting the numbers

1 in 14 million vs "here's a bunch of cash, draw the lottery 5 minutes earlier than usual" he mightn't have even needed to do that, we presume the lottery is drawn live but for all we know it could have been recorded 5 minutes ago... I take that over camera trickery/super magic/psychology or whatever you believe.

There will also be no point in it being recorded 5 minutes earlier or so, the two channels are rivals, they won't do something for each other.

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.CBR600-RR

If only you watched Derren Brown's shows, he's an illusionist and mentalist, the things he can do are amazing. He already predicted the lottery yesterday, he's going to tell us how he did it tomorrow which is friday.

Yes and Criss Angel can walk in thin air, don't you watch his shows? :roll:
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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Oh so they're recording the lottery, showing him the numbers then airing it 10 minutes later? as if you can't see that coming a mile away :roll: great "scheme" to start off your new series though.Brainkiller05

If only you watched Derren Brown's shows, he's an illusionist and mentalist, the things he can do are amazing. He already predicted the lottery yesterday, he's going to tell us how he did it tomorrow which is friday.

Yes and Criss Angel can walk in thin air, don't you watch his shows? :roll:

I didn't say he was magic, I said he's an illusionist and mentalist. :|

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

If only you watched Derren Brown's shows, he's an illusionist and mentalist, the things he can do are amazing. He already predicted the lottery yesterday, he's going to tell us how he did it tomorrow which is friday.

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Yes and Criss Angel can walk in thin air, don't you watch his shows? :roll:

I didn't say he was magic, I said he's an illusionist and mentalist. :|

I didn't say you said he was a magician. Whether it's illusions or whatever there's still a big chance they're paid actors or camera trickery is involved. ie. like Criss Angel's shows. atleast for his more... extravagant illusions or tricks, like the guy who was in a photo booth and woke up in india.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] Prove it. and even if it usually is a live show who's to say derren's producers didn't pay them to record it 5 minutes earlier, like i said it's amazing "advertising" for his new series. and I'm just saying this is the most logical, I'm sure the same affect can be achieved through camera trickery.

i think derren brown paying the BBC to pre record the national lottery so he could advertise his new TV show on a rival TV network would be more impressive than actually predicting the numbers

1 in 14 million vs "here's a bunch of cash, draw the lottery 5 minutes earlier than usual" he mightn't have even needed to do that, we presume the lottery is drawn live but for all we know it could have been recorded 5 minutes ago... I take that over camera trickery/super magic/psychology or whatever you believe.

they wouldn't pre record the lottery though, theirs just no way it would happen. Camelot would loose the contact. but i do agree it wasn't super magic or psychology. maybe some kind of camera trick, the perspective was very dilliberate.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] Yes and Criss Angel can walk in thin air, don't you watch his shows? :roll: Brainkiller05

I didn't say he was magic, I said he's an illusionist and mentalist. :|

I didn't say you said he was a magician. Whether it's illusions or whatever there's still a big chance they're paid actors or camera trickery is involved. ie. like Criss Angel's shows. atleast for his more... extravagant illusions or tricks, like the guy who was in a photo booth and woke up in india.

Yeah my bet is that they used a splitscreen effect on it, like an illusion. You misunderstood me. :P

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[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="doobie1975"] i think derren brown paying the BBC to pre record the national lottery so he could advertise his new TV show on a rival TV network would be more impressive than actually predicting the numbers

1 in 14 million vs "here's a bunch of cash, draw the lottery 5 minutes earlier than usual" he mightn't have even needed to do that, we presume the lottery is drawn live but for all we know it could have been recorded 5 minutes ago... I take that over camera trickery/super magic/psychology or whatever you believe.

they wouldn't pre record the lottery though, theirs just no way it would happen. Camelot would loose the contact. but i do agree it wasn't super magic or psychology. maybe some kind of camera trick, the perspective was very dilliberate.

what difference does it make whether they record at 10:20 or 10:35?
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Yeah that was pretty good stuff, i doubt it was fake.