Did we lose the Iraq war? ( Please vote)

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#1 mohan88
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Facts. :( The latest on Iraq was 2 U.S soliders are missing one died in the search and 7 U.S soilders who died in Iraq on sunday March-20-2007 A total of 100,000 to150,000 iraqi people have died since the war began in March-20-2003. :( A total 3,422 U.S soilders have died since the war began in March-20-2003. :( At least 1000 Contractors have died since the war began in March-20-2003. :( 102 journalists, 39 media support workers, and 88 aid workers who have aslo been killed since the war began in March-20-2003. :( :(
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#2 geodisicdome
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from those numbers, it doesnt look like anyone won...
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#3 ElZilcho90
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Oh no, oh no no no, oh HELL no!

I'm not going to be dragged into another inane Iraq war debate in which people who know nothing scream about things they don't understand and yet feel the need to be opinionated about it.

Count me the hell out!

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#4 Bobby_Oz
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A. Leave this politcal crap for another forum

B. Millions lost their lives in WWII, by comparison I dont think that would count as a loss. 

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#5 branketra
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Technically, we succeeded in disestablishing the regime of Hussien. Now we're in the same position that the U.S. was in after its Civil War; Reconstruction. Different place, different names, different reasons..same massacres.

Problems need to be solved on many levels. Once that's done, high-ho silva.

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#6 G4mbl3
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We set up a democratic government in a country ruled by a dictator for decades. How did we lose again?
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#7 xXBuffJeffXx
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We thought we could fight this war on the cheap, but you can't rebuild a nation without massive military and economic dedication. We haven't necessarily lost yet but, in my estimation, we are losing.
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#8 xXBuffJeffXx
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We set up a democratic government in a country ruled by a dictator for decades. How did we lose again?G4mbl3

We've set up an extremely corrupt, unstable government that would fall in a week without our support.

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#9 LJS9502_basic
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The actual war itself is over and was successful...however, since the country had no leadership and was unstable we couldn't leave.  Currently it's being invaded by insurgents that are fighting...but that is not the actual war.
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#10 AngelB1ack
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The United States of America is still very much at war and in a state of war...nothing is over. Iraq has turned into a magnet ..if you will ..attracting people that hate America and what it stands for...insurgents cross into iraq illegally (from other hostile countries) just in the hopes of killing an American. If we were to leave it would be more of a bloodbath than it already is.

I support our troops and my Gov. 100%! I do not think we have lost anything but if we leave Iraq unfinished it will be the beginning of the end.

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#11 CptJSparrow
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Yes.
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#12 El-Player
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i believe we did there was no point to stay in iraq any longer and now we lost so many of our soldiers protecting a country that does not need to be protected!!

 

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#13 xXBuffJeffXx
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The actual war itself is over and was successful...however, since the country had no leadership and was unstable we couldn't leave. Currently it's being invaded by insurgents that are fighting...but that is not the actual war.LJS9502_basic

The actual war cannot be divorced from this 'non-actual' war you are talking about. Our objective was to set up a stable, democratic regime in Iraq to replace the Baath Party. The regime we have in place is nowhere near stable, so we are fighting to stabilize the country. Our current operations in Iraq fall under "Phase IV Operations"-Aid and reconstruction, which was part of the WAR PLAN. The military leadership anticipated that this would take very little time to accomplish, but we all know what happened with that and the rest is history.

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#14 nuttybar
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We won the war agianst Saddam and the invasion.  But aside from that its turned into a complete mess and troops are going to be stuck there for years, dying for what was a very pointles cause.  We never should have invaded Iraq.
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#15 xXBuffJeffXx
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The United States of America is still very much at war and in a state of war...nothing is over. Iraq has turned into a magnet ..if you will ..attracting people that hate America and what it stands for...insurgents cross into iraq illegally (from other hostile countries) just in the hopes of killing an American. If we were to leave it would be more of a bloodbath than it already is.

I support our troops and my Gov. 100%! I do not think we have lost anything but if we leave Iraq unfinished it will be the beginning of the end.

AngelB1ack

It's turning into what Afghanistan was to the Russians. 

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#16 DJ-PRIME90
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hellz yeah...
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#17 BlueD0t
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We lost the war in Iraq because we thought democracy could work in a part of the world that wishes death upon everything we are about.

 

We are at war with Fundamental Islam, not just Iraq. 

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#18 194197844077667059316682358889
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Yes, we won the war. The peace is not going so well, however.
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#19 quiglythegreat
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B. Millions lost their lives in WWII, by comparison I dont think that would count as a loss.

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So? By our standards, three thousand dead is a lot. It should be a lot to you. One should be terrible.
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#20 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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well, you won the war...but it isnt going very well over there at the moment. And most people will agree with me when I say that it's a failure as a whole.
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#21 laughingman42
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Its not a war its an occupation. occupations dont work. we need to get the hell out
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#22 jacintos09
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everybody's losing in that war...
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#23 mohan88
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Look at poll to this thread.
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#24 ElZilcho90
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Its not a war its an occupation. occupations dont work. we need to get the hell outlaughingman42

Seriously, I mean, it failed in Germany, Italy, Japan, Okinawa, Korea... oh, wait. 

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#25 Vfanek
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You won the war, but you haven't countered the rebellion.
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#26 ag1002
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ahahahaha, I love it when people say america is losing! hahaha

When people say america is losing, do you understand what they mean? The war is taking longer than expected, america is CERTAINLY NOT LOSING THE WAR. So many people hate bush and make up clever jokes about his stupidity and yadada, but when you ask them why they feel that way? They don't have a mind of their own, you can tell they just jumped on the bandwagon... "um bush sucks thats why" or my personal favourite "he wants oil, um, yeah oil" ... yeah right soldiers are taking over all the oil there, gimme a break. thats just a motive people came up with, why else would soldiers be there? bad guys? terrorists? oil? yeah oil! they're all dieing there for precious oil. and if you seriously think america is losing the war, you need to understand the enemy. by day they may be selling goods in the market, but by night they could be wearing a balaclava and laying down mines. the us soldier is by him/her self very well trained, but in a group they are very very VERY well cooridinated and strong. an extremist with an ak-47 can kill someone just like any random gangster with a gun can, there is training for terrorists but most of their training would come from REAL combat, if they live long enough that is. all that training, firepower, and communication the us has, has a huge impact.