Do clones have ..souls?

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#1 kirk4ever
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**read this in the context that god exists**

If they clone humans..like they did with that sheep will it have a soul? i mean when god creates us he gives us a soul..so if they clone you..who will give you a soul..the doctor? 0_0....

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#2 Silver_Dragon17
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Nobody knows. . .that's pretty much why religious people are against cloning.
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#3 megagene
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Mine does.
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#4 kirk4ever
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Nobody knows. . .that's pretty much why religious people are against cloning.Silver_Dragon17

hmm..that made me think alot

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#5 Brainkiller05
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Cloning ftl.
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#6 194197844077667059316682358889
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The existence of souls or not is orthogonal (or nearly orthogonal) to the question of theism...
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#7 Samwel_X
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Well that is assuming humans have souls...
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#8 pete_merlin
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do clonse have souls?
do people have souls?
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#9 leegar88
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Better question how do you know your notaclone.
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#10 hojobojo
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Yes clones are basically an identical twin.
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#11 Honenheim
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Nobody knows. . .that's pretty much why religious people are against cloning.Silver_Dragon17

i agree on this.

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#12 sandroDX
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yes i have a soul...
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#13 kirk4ever
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Better question how do you know your notaclone.leegar88

Arghhhh my brain hurts now :( to much thinkin

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#14 stevendiep_100
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the machine clones the soul too
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#15 megagene
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[QUOTE="leegar88"]Better question how do you know your notaclone.kirk4ever

Arghhhh my brain hurts now :( to much thinkin

That sounds like something a clone would say...>_>

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#16 Blazin_Ice
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What is a soul and how can you be so certain anybody has them.
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#17 The_Ish
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Are they human?
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#18 Soulreavercross
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What is a soul and how can you be so certain anybody has them.Blazin_Ice

I have a soul. It's the first 4 letters in my username. I does exist.

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#19 nightshade85
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nah, but hybrids have 1/2
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#20 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="Blazin_Ice"]What is a soul and how can you be so certain anybody has them.Soulreavercross

I have a soul. It's the first 4 letters in my username. I does exist.

But you are a soul reaver. You eat them, it's not like you have your own.

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#21 metallica_fan42
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No, they're injected into them after the process.
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#23 MgamerBD
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Better question how do you know your notaclone.leegar88

I have a bellybutton.

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#24 wizard90
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First you have to answer - What is a soul? luccaface

I bileave that it is our 'source' or 'conciousness' the 'real us', i think that there is only one soul in the universe, it just makes its way into physical forms.

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#25 Quiet-Key
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All my answers were just posted on this page.. :(

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#26 JTWibble
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The soul is sharred accross the clones and the original, anything your clones do goes on your record too, that's the price you pay for letting yourself be cloned.
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#27 Serraph105
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well since god didnt make them im going with no or they have half of yousould and you have the other half
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#28 The_Ish
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The soul is sharred accross the clones and the original, anything your clones do goes on your record too, that's the price you pay for letting yourself be cloned.JTWibble

Says who...?

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#29 JTWibble
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[QUOTE="JTWibble"]The soul is sharred accross the clones and the original, anything your clones do goes on your record too, that's the price you pay for letting yourself be cloned.The_Ish

Says who...?

Me, just a few posts above.

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#31 Darthmatt
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The soul is a tricky concept. If we use quantum mechanics in the equation then we have an infinite number of realities for every probable outcome. Does this mean that each person in each reality has their own soul or do we share a singular soul? What about life and death situations, head a guy died, tail he lived. If God governs all creation, then he would also govern all possible realities or would there be infinite copies of God per universe? He is above and beyond the laws of time and space after all. If there was one God for all these realities, then there would be one heaven and one hell too. Wouldn't it then mean there would be an un tamable amount of duplicate souls?
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#32 Sonick54
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A soul is a religious thing. There's no fact that humans have one
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#33 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="JTWibble"]The soul is sharred accross the clones and the original, anything your clones do goes on your record too, that's the price you pay for letting yourself be cloned.JTWibble

Says who...?

Me, just a few posts above.

Well, I guess that's okay, since you have the power to give people souls and stuff.

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#34 dgbeard45
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Do androids dream of electric sheep?

Not the exact same idea, but same concept. If you are a nihilist like me, then they do not have a soul neither does anyone else and the idea of a soul is just to reassure boring people that they are unique.

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#35 KGB32
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lawl, souls...
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#36 kirk4ever
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Do androids dream of electric sheep?

Not the exact same idea, but same concept. If you are a nihilist like me, then they do not have a soul neither does anyone else and the idea of a soul is just to reassure boring people that they are unique.

dgbeard45

well ..what about the paranormal.ghost?djinn adn stuff? made up?

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#37 eo12601
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... In a more practical (ie, taoist) sense, all living things have "souls", so yes, a clone would have a "soul." A more interesting question would be artificial intelligence. If we were to create an artificial humanoid robot, capable of thinking, reasoning, and even feeling, then what would seperate it from being human? Would it have a soul?
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#38 dgbeard45
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[QUOTE="dgbeard45"]

Do androids dream of electric sheep?

Not the exact same idea, but same concept. If you are a nihilist like me, then they do not have a soul neither does anyone else and the idea of a soul is just to reassure boring people that they are unique.

kirk4ever

well ..what about the paranormal.ghost?djinn adn stuff? made up?

Ja, completely made up. Halucinations, paranoia, or confusion, whatever it may be the conclusion is the same, there is no such thing as the paranormal. But, that is too off-topic of this thread, so lets leave it at that.

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#39 kirk4ever
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... In a more practical (ie, taoist) sense, all living things have "souls", so yes, a clone would have a "soul." A more interesting question would be artificial intelligence. If we were to create an artificial humanoid robot, capable of thinking, reasoning, and even feeling, then what would seperate it from being human? Would it have a soul?eo12601

well ai is different its mechanical and a software..but a clone the closest to us.its flesh and biological .but we have made it instead of "him/her" so who will inject the soul ?

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#40 -Serpahim-
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Do you have a soul? personally i would prefer it if we didnt have souls, because that would remove the notion of an afterlife. Dunno about you guys, but 1 life is more than enough.
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#41 FFinfinite
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**read this in the context that god exists**

If they clone humans..like they did with that sheep will it have a soul? i mean when god creates us he gives us a soul..so if they clone you..who will give you a soul..the doctor? 0_0....

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Actually I think it's nurse. :P
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#42 nintendoman562
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all animals dont have souls. but for something to be cloned, it must be born first. so im guessing that clones do have souls and they do go to heaven/hell.