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This is a touchy subject, and i cant say anything without being labled as a homophobe...xid32
Just do it. It'll be okay as long as you aren't intentionally trying to come off that way.
Anyway, I think you are born that way, as I would doubt anyone would choose to be what is considered abnormal and wrong. I don't know how many people like being outcasts.
But if you can choose your sexuality, then that would be pretty awesome.
I think a lot of people pretend to be gay though, just for attention. It's weird because they only get negative attention, like cutting their wrists...
Here is the way I see it. If Homo's choose to become gay fine, that is their choice and I am completely fine with it. If they are born, then I see it as a mental defect and it needs to be dealt with appropriately, either through rehab or medicine. The whole point of re-producing is to eventually re-produce, so if someone is truly "born" gay then it is a genetic defect plainy and simple.
I think it depends on how they were brought up and the situations they've been in that defines who the person will become. All of this "genes" stuff is a load of crap in my opinion.Zaeryn
And if the said homosexual was brought up in an extremely homophobic family?
[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]I think it depends on how they were brought up and the situations they've been in that defines who the person will become. All of this "genes" stuff is a load of crap in my opinion.alwayspureblood
And if the said homosexual was brought up in an extremely homophobic family?
Then the chances are they would never become homosexual, because they would have been brought up knowing that it is wrong. It's still possible that they end up homosexual, but in a situation like that, it's not very likely.[QUOTE="alwayspureblood"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"]I think it depends on how they were brought up and the situations they've been in that defines who the person will become. All of this "genes" stuff is a load of crap in my opinion.Zaeryn
And if the said homosexual was brought up in an extremely homophobic family?
Then the chances are they would never become homosexual, because they would have been brought up knowing that it is wrong. It's still possible that they end up homosexual, but in a situation like that, it's not very likely.well i have a friend that knows he is gay he knows it is wrong because thats how he was raised. he tries and tries to like girls, and he is always fighting within himself becaue as much as he tries he still lieks guys. so its something more than a choice it has to be. or maybe sometiems it is a choice i dont know. but there is no absolute truth to either sie so its pretty difficult
There's one thing I don't get:
Homosexuality is just that - sexuality...
But I recall glimpsing something on Yahoo News about younger kids who haven't hit puberty yet 'coming out of the closet.' Having a sexual orientation before sexuality even comes into the picture?
This makes no sense. Then again, I'm no expert. Just something that didn't make sense to me. >_>
[QUOTE="alwayspureblood"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"]I think it depends on how they were brought up and the situations they've been in that defines who the person will become. All of this "genes" stuff is a load of crap in my opinion.Zaeryn
And if the said homosexual was brought up in an extremely homophobic family?
Then the chances are they would never become homosexual, because they would have been brought up knowing that it is wrong. It's still possible that they end up homosexual, but in a situation like that, it's not very likely.I can respect that ideology.
I sure as hell didn't choose my sexuality, and I'm straight. There's no way someone would choose to be gay especially with all the hate that they recieve.
They're born that way.
could both, everyone knows about what happens in prison but also scientists think they've found the specific gene that causes it and jail just forces the men to careless about what society thinks, the main question is though, does it matter?markop2003
Uh, rape happens in jail. Rape, a physical act based on a need for power and control. It hardly makes a person gay
It's strange how people are all aghast when women get raped, but when a man gets raped, they call the person gay Huh.
I mean, of course, over long term sentences, some might form a bond through a consensual need for pleasure and release, and for a friendship, but it's a rare, special case.
I don't remember ever choosing which gender I was attracted to... do you?metroidfoodMaybe we all just went with the crowd.
There's one thing I don't get:
Homosexuality is just that - sexuality...
But I recall glimpsing something on Yahoo News about younger kids who haven't hit puberty yet 'coming out of the closet.' Having a sexual orientation before sexuality even comes into the picture?
This makes no sense. Then again, I'm no expert. Just something that didn't make sense to me. >_>
PannicAtack
sexuality doesnt come about at puberty,at least not in this generation
Here is the way I see it. If Homo's choose to become gay fine, that is their choice and I am completely fine with it. If they are born, then I see it as a mental defect and it needs to be dealt with appropriately, either through rehab or medicine. The whole point of re-producing is to eventually re-produce, so if someone is truly "born" gay then it is a genetic defect plainy and simple.
chandlerr_360
It's not a mental defect, at all. The APA once considered it to be, but in the 70s, they took it off.
and besides the "treatment" to "cure Homosexuality" Is far worse than homosexuality itself
[QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.sbs13Dont ignore this.
Makes me sick...
[QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.sbs13Dont ignore this.
One cannot pray away your homosexuality. They are most likely just in the closet, and in self denial.
[QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.sbs13Dont ignore this.
"Hey guys, I use to like eating the flesh of dead babies, but after mumbling to my imaginary friend every night before I go to bed, he helped cure me of my 'sickness'!"
[QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.sbs13Dont ignore this. They believe in their God? How surprising.
Dont ignore this.[QUOTE="sbs13"][QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.Ring_of_fire
One cannot pray away your homosexuality. They are most likely just in the closet, and in self denial.
It's easy enough to stop having sex altogether. Having sex with someone you're not physically attracted to is quite a lot harder, I'd imagine. It's impossible to shift your sexual preference. I agree with Ring of Fire here, you can't pray it away.
[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]Here is the way I see it. If Homo's choose to become gay fine, that is their choice and I am completely fine with it. If they are born, then I see it as a mental defect and it needs to be dealt with appropriately, either through rehab or medicine. The whole point of re-producing is to eventually re-produce, so if someone is truly "born" gay then it is a genetic defect plainy and simple.
Ring_of_fire
It's not a mental defect, at all. The APA once considered it to be, but in the 70s, they took it off.
and besides the "treatment" to "cure Homosexuality" Is far worse than homosexuality itself
I saw a documentary about this, it was horrible what they did to them. I think they strapped them down or something, made them watch homosexual porn, and if they were to get the slightest arousal, they were shocked. It was apparently to "scare the gay out of them. It was disgusting.
Tell him to watch guy on chick porn and focus on the opposite gender he's attracted to. I know that's what I'd do if I wanted to become gay . : D You can't really just make yourself sexually attracted to something. However, you can associate something with hornieness and then eventually make it so you become aroused just by looking at that thing. So he needs to get in the mood by looking at the guy then also look at the girl and the stuff she does to the guy. Then BAM! (and by bam I mean after a while) your friend becomes bi,:D which is a lot easier to work with if you want to like girls.:P Now of course, I can't say for sure if this'll really work as I've never tried it. But it makes seance that it would be easier to switch sides step by step as opposed to just going strait there.well i have a friend that knows he is gay he knows it is wrong because thats how he was raised. he tries and tries to like girls, and he is always fighting within himself becaue as much as he tries he still lieks guys. so its something more than a choice it has to be. or maybe sometiems it is a choice i dont know. but there is no absolute truth to either sie so its pretty difficult
HotVchick
Dont ignore this.[QUOTE="sbs13"][QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.Ring_of_fire
One cannot pray away your homosexuality. They are most likely just in the closet, and in self denial.
Like I said, talk to someone who has experienced it.Have you talked to someone about it? Who has recovered? I didnt think so.
[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Dont ignore this.[QUOTE="sbs13"][QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.sbs13
One cannot pray away your homosexuality. They are most likely just in the closet, and in self denial.
Like I said, talk to someone who has experienced it.Have you talked to someone about it? Who has recovered? I didnt think so.
I don't think you talked to anyone either. Sure, they may act straight, they may have a couple of kids, wife (Or husband if it's a woman), but at the end of the day, it's all an act. They are still gay but in denial
Like I said, talk to someone who has experienced it.sbs13Those who are religious enough to believe such a thing will no doubt be completely biased and willing to attribute anything they feel like to God. Pray for a nonreligious person and 'cure' them, and only then will you have a point.
[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Dont ignore this.[QUOTE="sbs13"][QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.sbs13
One cannot pray away your homosexuality. They are most likely just in the closet, and in self denial.
Like I said, talk to someone who has experienced it.Have you talked to someone about it? Who has recovered? I didnt think so.
People at my local churches talk about people like that all the time. It's really annoying. "Greg used to be a homosexual, but then he repented, and now is a heterosexual with a wife and a child!"
Except they leave out the part where he had a bunch of gay friends, and only tested the waters for a few months before realizing that he wasn't gay and it was simply his urge to fit in. Of course, don't try and tell the minister that. Greg was obviously 100% gay and it's obviously 100% "curable".
[QUOTE="sbs13"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Dont ignore this.[QUOTE="sbs13"][QUOTE="sbs13"]There are current Christian's that agreed that they were gay as a 2 dollar bill back in the day...But by prayer and perseverance they were delivered of this. I say talk to them.Ring_of_fire
One cannot pray away your homosexuality. They are most likely just in the closet, and in self denial.
Like I said, talk to someone who has experienced it.Have you talked to someone about it? Who has recovered? I didnt think so.
I don't think you talked to anyone either. Sure, they may act straight, they may have a couple of kids, wife (Or husband if it's a woman), but at the end of the day, it's all an act. They are still gay but in denial
Thats your weak opinion.I'm not gay never have been, I'm going off of friends opinions. Accept it or dont.
Have you talked to someone about it? Who has recovered? I didnt think so.
Once upon a time, I prayed that I would like girls. I prayed every night for a few months, I hoped Jesus would let me like girls, and become attracted to them. Let alone the fact that I was young, 8 years old to be more exact. I never liked girls.
In short, I believe you are born with your sexuality, which, in most honesty, is only a small fraction of your life. I truly do not believe neither hetero, homo or bisexual behavior is a lifestyle in itself, simply a small fraction of the massive puzzle that truly is the human life.
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