Do people have a right to a job?

I see this claim a lot during the OWS movement, but I dont understand what it means. Does it mean the employers should have to hire people regardless of need? Should someone be able to keep their job indefinitely regardless of their performance or competence? I work in a small business and we hire people when we have a need or demand. We also fire people when they perform badly, negligently, or unethically. Does that mean we are somehow breaking this right to a job belief? I dont understand how it is my duty to hire someone just so they can have a job.

they have a right to their person, and they have a right to seek enterprise, though starting with nothing is a nonoption these days, at least when i was in college there were no licensing fees to prepare other peoples taxes. i would have gone into much debt if i could not have sought my own ventures in college.

no one has the right to force others to give them money, so if you include self employ, YES but it is only to work to seek to fill a need (self employ), if not NO.

You can't really guarentee a person a job, especially in this society. It was never a right to have a job.

No. People do not have a right to a job. They have a right to try and get one, but thats about it.

People have a right to maintain a minimum standard of living. Jobs are necessary to do that, unless you'd rather turn society into welfare leeches.scorch-62

Since when do people have the right to a minimum standard of living just for existing?

People have a right to live freely and all of that but not a right to any goods or service. That's part of living freely. Or at least that's how I alway thought of it.

it is the american dreamJandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]it is the american dreamsurrealnumber5

Not directly. People have the right of a government and an economical system that would try to provide as much jobs as possible and keep some kind of balance between the rich and the poor, the prices and wages...etcGazaAli

Not directly. People have the right of a government and an economical system that would try to provide as much jobs as possible and keep some kind of balance between the rich and the poor, the prices and wages...etcGazaAli

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]it is the american dreamsurrealnumber5

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]People have a right to maintain a minimum standard of living. Jobs are necessary to do that, unless you'd rather turn society into welfare leeches.Wasdie

Humans (should) have the right to develop themselves to their maximum potential.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]People have a right to maintain a minimum standard of living. Jobs are necessary to do that, unless you'd rather turn society into welfare leeches.scorch-62

If you put it that way then yes.

However I do support a minimum level of welfare that is supported by the state so that people do not starve to death and whatnot. I don't support a lot of the other welfare programs we have though. It's spiraling out of control.

It means that people who want work should be able to find work. And it is something I support. Mass unemployment is a relatively new phenomenon. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]It means that people who want work should be able to find work. And it is something I support. Mass unemployment is a relatively new phenomenon. sonicare

[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]People have a right to maintain a minimum standard of living. Jobs are necessary to do that, unless you'd rather turn society into welfare leeches.scorch-62

What does that even mean? You have a right to put a gun in an employer's face and demand he pay you for labor he may not need?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]It means that people who want work should be able to find work. And it is something I support. Mass unemployment is a relatively new phenomenon. sonicare

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]It means that people who want work should be able to find work. And it is something I support. Mass unemployment is a relatively new phenomenon. sonicare

They did all this crap in Russia back in 1917. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how that turned out.

They did all this crap in Russia back in 1917. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how that turned out.

Jackc8

No one has the "right' to a job. People should have to earn a job. Most of the OWS people are just hippies/hipsters (for lack of a better term) who just think its cool to fight the Man. You hit on a good point about demand though. Demand drives business more than anything else. And people need money and jobs to drive demand. Businesses and business people do not create jobs simply because they have money on hand, whether it's through tax breaks or good strategy.

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They did all this crap in Russia back in 1917. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how that turned out.

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]It means that people who want work should be able to find work. And it is something I support. Mass unemployment is a relatively new phenomenon. sonicare

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[QUOTE="Jackc8"]

They did all this crap in Russia back in 1917. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how that turned out.

Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]People have a right to maintain a minimum standard of living. Jobs are necessary to do that, unless you'd rather turn society into welfare leeches.scorch-62

What he says is jobless loafers shouldn't be wearing expensive jewellery or watching 55" plasma TVs, they should spend every single cent they get from the government keeping up their minimum lifestyle on a basic diet and a basic home with no $2000 gaming rigs or designer clothes.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Wasdie"] Since when do people have the right to a minimum standard of living just for existing? People have a right to live freely and all of that but not a right to any goods or service. That's part of living freely. Or at least that's how I alway thought of it.JohnF111

What he says is jobless loafers shouldn't be wearing expensive jewellery or watching 55" plasma TVs, they should spend every single cent they get from the government keeping up their minimum lifestyle on a basic diet and a basic home with no $2000 gaming rigs or designer clothes.

Yes because that's how poor people live. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Yes because that's how poor people live. Jandurin

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]It means that people who want work should be able to find work. And it is something I support. Mass unemployment is a relatively new phenomenon. -Sun_Tzu-

it is the american dreamJandurin

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="sonicare"] But i think there are lots of variables. If you spend 4 years in college majoring in advanced studies of smurfs, is it really other's fault that you cant find a job?sonicare

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Wasdie"] Since when do people have the right to a minimum standard of living just for existing? People have a right to live freely and all of that but not a right to any goods or service. That's part of living freely. Or at least that's how I alway thought of it.Wasdie

If you put it that way then yes.

That's...kinda cruel, man.

Humanitarian efforts are a very helpful portion of society and wanting to kill the poor is just...

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="scorch-62"] So you're suggesting poor people should be left to die? Do you not believe in humanitarian efforts?THE_DRUGGIE

If you put it that way then yes.

That's...kinda cruel, man.

Humanitarian efforts are a very helpful portion of society and wanting to kill the poor is just...

If he asks a blunt and sweeping question, he's going to get a blunt and sweeping statement.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

If you put it that way then yes.

Wasdie

That's...kinda cruel, man.

Humanitarian efforts are a very helpful portion of society and wanting to kill the poor is just...

If he asks a blunt and sweeping question, he's going to get a blunt and sweeping statement.

Or you could just ignore it instead of saying you want to kill the poor.

No ill will intended, that's actually what you said.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]That's...kinda cruel, man. Humanitarian efforts are a very helpful portion of society and wanting to kill the poor is just...scorch-62

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Wasdie"] If he asks a blunt and sweeping question, he's going to get a blunt and sweeping statement.surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Wasdie"] If he asks a blunt and sweeping question, he's going to get a blunt and sweeping statement.surrealnumber5

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[QUOTE="scorch-62"] So you're suggesting poor people should be left to die? Do you not believe in humanitarian efforts?THE_DRUGGIE

If you put it that way then yes.

That's...kinda cruel, man.

Humanitarian efforts are a very helpful portion of society and wanting to kill the poor is just...