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#1 Moroeus
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I am a very open minded person but i was watching some videos on youtube and apparently aliens would have to be atleast a million years ahead of us technology wise to travel here. What do you think?

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#2 Aspen706
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No, but theres no way of knowing.
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#4 Moroeus
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Maybe the government are covering it up...........??? @ Aspen

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#5 tepni
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No, but theres no way of knowing.Aspen706
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#6 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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I honestly have an inkling that they have, and possibly even continue to. I don't know for sure, though. It's definitely interesting to consider.
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#7 Aspen706
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Maybe the government are covering it up...........??? @ Aspen

Moroeus
Maybe, I wouldn't be surprised if they are covering up a LOT of things.
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Scientology.

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#9 ContraQueen
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I think it's possible. Only the government would know, but the truth is out there.

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#10 Moroeus
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Ok though if Aliens were to have came or land here and let the world know would that prove god isnt real

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#11 ExoticAnimal
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I'm kinda skeptical about this as we really don't know what the government is hiding from us. There have been way too many reports of sightings so its hard to say a definitive no. Also they found an alien body at Roswell in which witnesses claim that there was actually one along with photographs too. There have been new theories about how the pyramids and ancient civilizations were built by aliens which was very interesting to watch as it was on the history channel. Who knows? There could be aliens out there but then again, it could all just be a hoax.

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#12 Aspen706
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Ok though if Aliens were to have came or land here and let the world know would that prove god isnt real

Moroeus
I don't know christianity well enough to answer, but yes I think so.
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#13 Moroeus
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I'm kinda skeptical about this as we really don't know what the government is hiding from us. There have been way too many reports of sightings so its hard to say a definitive no. Also they found an alien body at Roswell in which witnesses claim that there was actually one along with photographs too. There have been new theories about how the pyramids and ancient civilizations were built by aliens which was very interesting to watch as it was on the history channel. Who knows? There could be aliens out there but then again, it could all just be a hoax.

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Do you know what the show was called im interested
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#14 Fox-Call
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No, and I think it's ridiculous to believe they have. SORRY, T3HRUBIKSCUBE
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#15 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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No, and I think it's ridiculous to believe they have. SORRY, T3HRUBIKSCUBEFox-Call
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#16 buldog300
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If they did then they don't consider us worthy of (or ready for) direct communication.
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#17 ExoticAnimal
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[QUOTE="ExoticAnimal"]

I'm kinda skeptical about this as we really don't know what the government is hiding from us. There have been way too many reports of sightings so its hard to say a definitive no. Also they found an alien body at Roswell in which witnesses claim that there was actually one along with photographs too. There have been new theories about how the pyramids and ancient civilizations were built by aliens which was very interesting to watch as it was on the history channel. Who knows? There could be aliens out there but then again, it could all just be a hoax.

Moroeus

Do you know what the show was called im interested

I can't remember what it was called exactly but maybe Ancient Aliens. I'll try to take a look for it.

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[QUOTE="Fox-Call"]No, and I think it's ridiculous to believe they have. SORRY, T3HRUBIKSCUBEt3hrubikscube

Ya, it's okay, Fox-Call, as long as you don't think I'm stupid. :{

Of course not, comp sci and psychology are admirable disciplines to study :D
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#19 Moroeus
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If they did then they don't consider us worthy of (or ready for) direct communication.buldog300
Well i must say i cant blame them. We are a violent and polluting race they probally see us as cavemen
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#20 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

[QUOTE="Fox-Call"]No, and I think it's ridiculous to believe they have. SORRY, T3HRUBIKSCUBEFox-Call

Ya, it's okay, Fox-Call, as long as you don't think I'm stupid. :{

Of course not, comp sci and psychology are admirable disciplines to study :D

Well I am relieved to hear this!! :>
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#21 ExoticAnimal
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[QUOTE="Moroeus"][QUOTE="ExoticAnimal"]

I'm kinda skeptical about this as we really don't know what the government is hiding from us. There have been way too many reports of sightings so its hard to say a definitive no. Also they found an alien body at Roswell in which witnesses claim that there was actually one along with photographs too. There have been new theories about how the pyramids and ancient civilizations were built by aliens which was very interesting to watch as it was on the history channel. Who knows? There could be aliens out there but then again, it could all just be a hoax.

ExoticAnimal

Do you know what the show was called im interested

I can't remember what it was called exactly but maybe Ancient Aliens. I'll try to take a look for it.

Yea, its definitely called Ancient Aliens on the History Channel since I remember George Noory being on it as I used to listen to his radio show all the time back when I was younger. Just looked it up and there is only 6 episodes which I could have sworn that there was more. I actually spent the whole Saturday watching this. Very interesting.

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#22 walkingdream
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I think so....at some stage but i have no reasoning behind my thinking :P
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#23 Allicrombie
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yes, and they either need to leave or get on with the probing already. =P
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#24 sonofsmeagle
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Well i definetly beleive they are real without a doubt and are more sure about them visiting earth than i'm sure about god or 2012

i mean there has been MILLIONS of storys and sightings of alien ships or people getting abducted

'i mean surely they couldnt all be hoaxes or lying

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#25 hartsickdiscipl
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Absolutely. I think that's what the Bible and all of the other ancient writings about "Gods from the sky" or "Gods from the heavens" are about. In the Book of Enoch the writer even names many of the "angels" (A.K.A. Aliens) and what their jobs are.

I find the ancient stories, drawings, and carvings of primitive cultures all around the world to be too similar to dismiss as coincidence. They must have seen some pretty wild things worldwide and written about it. Then formed religions based around these events.. like Pacific Islanders who encountered our planes and pilots during WW2.

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#26 johny300
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There is no such thing as aliens grow up people.
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There is no such thing as aliens grow up people.johny300

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

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[QUOTE="johny300"]There is no such thing as aliens grow up people.hartsickdiscipl

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

Stop watching V.
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#29 sonofsmeagle
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]There is no such thing as aliens grow up people.johny300

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

Stop watching V.

I'm pretty sure V has nothing to do with aliens he just believed in blowing up parliament with the 1812 overture in the background

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[QUOTE="johny300"]There is no such thing as aliens grow up people.hartsickdiscipl

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

I looked at the stars their beautiful nothing more, aliens don't exist that's a fact until it's proven otherwise.
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#31 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]There is no such thing as aliens grow up people.johny300

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

Stop watching V.

"Open up your eyes. Don't let you mind tell the story here."

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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

sonofsmeagle

Stop watching V.

I'm pretty sure V has nothing to do with aliens he just believed in blowing up parliament with the 1812 overture in the background

Lol what?
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="johny300"]There is no such thing as aliens grow up people.johny300

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

I looked at the stars their beautiful nothing more, aliens don't exist that's a fact until it's proven otherwise.

Mathematical probabilities say that it's extremely unlikely that we're alone, even in our own galaxy. Combine that with everything else that I've seen or read in ancient texts, and UFO reports everyday that can't be explained.. I have enough proof. I'm sorry if it's not enough for you.

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#34 johny300
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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

hartsickdiscipl

Stop watching V.

"Open up your eyes. Don't let you mind tell the story here."

Until i see an alien with my own eyes i'll believe that they exist.

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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

hartsickdiscipl

I looked at the stars their beautiful nothing more, aliens don't exist that's a fact until it's proven otherwise.

Mathematical probabilities say that it's extremely unlikely that we're alone, even in our own galaxy. Combine that with everything else that I've seen or read in ancient texts, and UFO reports everyday that can't be explained.. I have enough proof. I'm sorry if it's not enough for you.

I want to see with my own 2 eyes then i'll believe, tell me do you beleive about the world ending in 2012? i don't.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] Stop watching V.johny300

"Open up your eyes. Don't let you mind tell the story here."

Until i see an alien with my own eyes i'll believe that they don't exist.

Can I ask why you would default to NOT believing they exist, given the size of the cosmos and the probabilities given by scientists the world over? Wouldn't it be more logical at this point to think that they do? I'm not asking you to believe that they are here on our planet at this time (even though I believe they are), just that it's very likely that they do exist out there. At a certain point reason has to overcome what you have or haven't seen.. I would hope.

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Well i definetly beleive they are real without a doubt and are more sure about them visiting earth than i'm sure about god or 2012

i mean there has been MILLIONS of storys and sightings of alien ships or people getting abducted

'i mean surely they couldnt all be hoaxes or lying

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Wait you believe that they exist more than you beleive in god? Tha's weird.
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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I hope you're joking. Take a look at the stars at night, and tell me that you seriously think we're alone. Then watch the DVD called "I know what I saw," and tell me you don't think they've been here around our planet for a very long time.

hartsickdiscipl

I looked at the stars their beautiful nothing more, aliens don't exist that's a fact until it's proven otherwise.

Mathematical probabilities say that it's extremely unlikely that we're alone, even in our own galaxy. Combine that with everything else that I've seen or read in ancient texts, and UFO reports everyday that can't be explained.. I have enough proof. I'm sorry if it's not enough for you.

Letting alone the possibility of alien life that has not made any contact with earth exists, I find it irritating that we have absolutely no clear shots, footage, remains, technology, or any other concrete evidence. They're always fuzzy, dark, blurry, or otherwise hard to study.

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[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Well i definetly beleive they are real without a doubt and are more sure about them visiting earth than i'm sure about god or 2012

i mean there has been MILLIONS of storys and sightings of alien ships or people getting abducted

'i mean surely they couldnt all be hoaxes or lying

johny300

Wait you believe that they exist more than you beleive in god? Tha's weird.

How about this one- God is an alien leader, and responsible for the human race as we know it. Angels and Demons are aliens. The whole picture ties together beautifully when you look at the writings of ancient peoples from around the globe. The Book of Enoch even says that he was taken up into space, met lots of the Aliens and learned their jobs and names. This was taken out of the Bible at the Council of Nicaea by a bunch of 4th or 5th century Christians who were freaked out by the detail given. It made the Angels seem too physical in nature.

Sorry for the ramble. Obviously we won't know the whole picture until the end of the current human system of things, but it's incredible to me just how much more sense the events in the Bible and other ancient writings make when you look at them with a modern technological frame of reference.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] I looked at the stars their beautiful nothing more, aliens don't exist that's a fact until it's proven otherwise.twitchmonkey399

Mathematical probabilities say that it's extremely unlikely that we're alone, even in our own galaxy. Combine that with everything else that I've seen or read in ancient texts, and UFO reports everyday that can't be explained.. I have enough proof. I'm sorry if it's not enough for you.

Letting alone the possibility of alien life that has not made any contact with earth exists, I find it irritating that we have absolutely no clear shots, footage, remains, technology, or any other concrete evidence. They're always fuzzy, dark, blurry, or otherwise hard to study.

There are plenty of clear videos and photos of UFOs. Tons of them. Even videos from fighter pilot's cockpit cameras. The sources are all over the place, but I'll recommend one in particular. It's a documentary called "I know what I saw." It includes videos, photos, and testimony from former high-ranking government officials, as well as commercial airline pilots and other witnesses. It's the most credible documentary that I've seen to date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvdzc9FAmTc

That's a link to part 1 of 9. Enjoy!

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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

"Open up your eyes. Don't let you mind tell the story here."

hartsickdiscipl

Until i see an alien with my own eyes i'll believe that they don't exist.

Can I ask why you would default to NOT believing they exist, given the size of the cosmos and the probabilities given by scientists the world over? Wouldn't it be more logical at this point to think that they do? I'm not asking you to believe that they are here on our planet at this time (even though I believe they are), just that it's very likely that they do exist out there. At a certain point reason has to overcome what you have or haven't seen.. I would hope.

I want a physical proof if you know what i mean, and IF they exist why wouldn't they show themselves to us, and who are those scientists you're talking about?
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="johny300"] Until i see an alien with my own eyes i'll believe that they don't exist.johny300

Can I ask why you would default to NOT believing they exist, given the size of the cosmos and the probabilities given by scientists the world over? Wouldn't it be more logical at this point to think that they do? I'm not asking you to believe that they are here on our planet at this time (even though I believe they are), just that it's very likely that they do exist out there. At a certain point reason has to overcome what you have or haven't seen.. I would hope.

I want a physical proof if you know what i mean, and IF they exist why wouldn't they show themselves to us, and who are those scientists you're talking about?

Ever heard of this guy?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/55633-stephen-hawking-alien-life-out-there-scientist-warns.html

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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Well i definetly beleive they are real without a doubt and are more sure about them visiting earth than i'm sure about god or 2012

i mean there has been MILLIONS of storys and sightings of alien ships or people getting abducted

'i mean surely they couldnt all be hoaxes or lying

hartsickdiscipl

Wait you believe that they exist more than you beleive in god? Tha's weird.

How about this one- God is an alien leader, and responsible for the human race as we know it. Angels and Demons are aliens. The whole picture ties together beautifully when you look at the writings of ancient peoples from around the globe. The Book of Enoch even says that he was taken up into space, met lots of the Aliens and learned their jobs and names. This was taken out of the Bible at the Council of Nicaea by a bunch of 4th or 5th century Christians who were freaked out by the detail given. It made the Angels seem too physical in nature.

Sorry for the ramble. Obviously we won't know the whole picture until the end of the current human system of things, but it's incredible to me just how much more sense the events in the Bible and other ancient writings make when you look at them with a modern technological frame of reference.

God is an alien leader? not sure if serious.
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[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Well i definetly beleive they are real without a doubt and are more sure about them visiting earth than i'm sure about god or 2012

i mean there has been MILLIONS of storys and sightings of alien ships or people getting abducted

'i mean surely they couldnt all be hoaxes or lying

johny300

Wait you believe that they exist more than you beleive in god? Tha's weird.

so do I. And no, I do not believe the world will end in 2012

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[QUOTE="johny300"] Wait you believe that they exist more than you beleive in god? Tha's weird.johny300

How about this one- God is an alien leader, and responsible for the human race as we know it. Angels and Demons are aliens. The whole picture ties together beautifully when you look at the writings of ancient peoples from around the globe. The Book of Enoch even says that he was taken up into space, met lots of the Aliens and learned their jobs and names. This was taken out of the Bible at the Council of Nicaea by a bunch of 4th or 5th century Christians who were freaked out by the detail given. It made the Angels seem too physical in nature.

Sorry for the ramble. Obviously we won't know the whole picture until the end of the current human system of things, but it's incredible to me just how much more sense the events in the Bible and other ancient writings make when you look at them with a modern technological frame of reference.

God is an alien leader? not sure if serious.

Why not?

If the most most advanced technology you had ever seen was a chariot, what would you think about Aliens with spaceships and advanced technology who interacted with your society? We have a real-life example of how even 1940's US military technology got us mistaken for Gods by Pacific Islanders during WW2. How do you think aliens and their interstellar craft would look to a bunch of Isrealites and Egyptians 4,000 years ago?

I encourage you to watch a series called "Ancient Aliens." Just watch it with an open, objective mind.. and tell me what you think. A background knowledge of one of the major holy books would be useful before viewing as well. It makes the whole picture more clear.

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#46 johny300
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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Can I ask why you would default to NOT believing they exist, given the size of the cosmos and the probabilities given by scientists the world over? Wouldn't it be more logical at this point to think that they do? I'm not asking you to believe that they are here on our planet at this time (even though I believe they are), just that it's very likely that they do exist out there. At a certain point reason has to overcome what you have or haven't seen.. I would hope.

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I want a physical proof if you know what i mean, and IF they exist why wouldn't they show themselves to us, and who are those scientists you're talking about?

Ever heard of this guy?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/55633-stephen-hawking-alien-life-out-there-scientist-warns.html

Hes saying that they exist without any proof, those are opinions not facts that have been proven, saying they could be microbes or animals such as worms is just a specualation not fact.
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#47 johny300
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[QUOTE="johny300"][QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"]

Well i definetly beleive they are real without a doubt and are more sure about them visiting earth than i'm sure about god or 2012

i mean there has been MILLIONS of storys and sightings of alien ships or people getting abducted

'i mean surely they couldnt all be hoaxes or lying

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Wait you believe that they exist more than you beleive in god? Tha's weird.

so do I. And no, I do not believe the world will end in 2012

So you believe in aliens more than god is that what you're saying?
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[QUOTE="johny300"] I want a physical proof if you know what i mean, and IF they exist why wouldn't they show themselves to us, and who are those scientists you're talking about?johny300

Ever heard of this guy?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/55633-stephen-hawking-alien-life-out-there-scientist-warns.html

Hes saying that they exist without any proof, those are opinions not facts that have been proven, saying they could be microbes or animals such as worms is just a specualation not fact.

If the only thing we ever accepted was hard physical proof, our lives would be nowhere. Our society would be nowhere. At some point, somebody figures something out and connects the dots. Then they create a working hypothesis and/or model, etc..

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#49 twitchmonkey399
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I could certainly use a credible documentary. This could be interesting. Also, I failed to mention, in addition the the fuzzy, etc. descriptions, the high level of questionable and proven to be fake photos, videos, etc. Certainly, there are clear depictions, I won't deny that. Lastly, I'd recommend this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-su1ZGyXrE There's a bit of stuff I wouldn't give much thought to, but there is an interesting insight on possible explanations of abductions and sightings toward the end. Part one of ten. Thanks for the link.
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#50 twitchmonkey399
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Toward the end of the entire show, including all ten parts, that is. @hartsickdiscipl