Do you believe in ghosts or spirits?

ANYTHING is possible, ANYTHING, so my guess are that there is MORE chances that they exist than they do not. So I do believe in 'em dawg

I believe in Ghosts I-IV

No, but I believe in the power of human imaginings.

I'm not sure.Dracargen

If you watch Ghost hunters on Sci-fi channel, you will come to the realization that 99.8% of all reported cases of paranormal activity are debunked ie no ghosts or supernatural beings. but everyone says what about that .2%? well, they say that it is unexplained and there's no proof pointing directly to these beings, so noone can say for sure what it is.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]I'm not sure.Premier1101

so noone can say for sure what it is.

Hence why I said, "I'm not sure."

I've seen some creepy things. . . .and I even have pictures. But like I said, I'm not sure.

I am going to say 'no'. It used to be 'I'm not sure' but nowadays is an unequivocal 'no'.

I'm not a big fan of ghost shows and documentaries but I watched Ghost Hunters and now can safely say I do not believe in ghosts.

Here are these 'experts' (I think they are plumbers, right?) who travel around the world visiting the most haunted places. After hundreds of hours of recorded footage in the most haunted areas of the most haunted places, you would think, by sheer statistics, that they would have something on film. But they don't. Sure, there were a handful of instances where something was, at best, inconclusive but there are never any full appartitions, things flying across the room, completely legible voices, etc. And in the majority of cases anything they hear or see can be attributed to the human mind seeing what it wants to see, which is where most ghost stories originate.

IMO

Eh. I'll believe it when I see it. Until I do, I don't.

I belive in spirits. My favorits is gin. But ghosts, no.mattyftm

are u talking about the things pakistan people call em "gins" or something completely diffrent. also yh i belive in gins.

[QUOTE="mattyftm"]I belive in spirits. My favorits is gin. But ghosts, no.b3yondstupidity

are u talking about the things pakistan people call em "gins" or something completely diffrent. also yh i belive in gins.

I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. I mean the juniper flavoured spirit (as in alcoholic spirit) Gin.

[QUOTE="mattyftm"]I belive in spirits. My favorits is gin. But ghosts, no.b3yondstupidity

are u talking about the things pakistan people call em "gins" or something completely diffrent. also yh i belive in gins.

He is not talking about "Djinns"

He's talking about GIN, the alcoholic beverage.

I'm positive there is since my mom has had some paranormal experiences. And she is not one to lie.. not even a white lie.

I'm positive there is since my mom has had some paranormal experiences. And she is not one to lie.. not even a white lie.

The_Mac_Daddy

What some people see as a paranormal experience, may actualy have a perfectly scientific explination. She may not be lying, but she may be missinterpreting what she saw.

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I'm positive there is since my mom has had some paranormal experiences. And she is not one to lie.. not even a white lie.

mattyftm

What some people see as a paranormal experience, may actualy have a perfectly scientific explination. She may not be lying, but she may be missinterpretating what she saw.

I'll explain what happend:

1. About a week before my little brother was born, my moms grandpa died. after he was born, when my mom would try to rock him to sleep, she would feel something pull her hair. But nothing was there. Literally like someone took a bit of her hair and yanked on it. One day she just decided to tell him about her grandpa while she was rocking my little brother, then sang him the song he used to sing to my mom. She said she could literally feel something "leave" from around her and her hair was staticy when she looked in the mirror a few minutes later.

2. One of my moms childhood friends developed brain cancer. He was in a coma and expected to die soon. His family wansn't religious at all. Their kids would know nothing about religion. One day he mysteriously woke up and asked his mom what was for breakfast. They were shocked. They found out the cancer went into remission. He later says, 'you know mom, they sent me back'. the mom was like, who did? He was like st. peter and st. paul were fighting over me and couldn't decide who was going to get me, so they sent me back.

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I'm positive there is since my mom has had some paranormal experiences. And she is not one to lie.. not even a white lie.

The_Mac_Daddy

What some people see as a paranormal experience, may actualy have a perfectly scientific explination. She may not be lying, but she may be missinterpretating what she saw.

I'll explain what happend:

1. About a week before my little brother was born, my moms grandpa died. after he was born, when my mom would try to rock him to sleep, she would feel something pull her hair. But nothing was there. Literally like someone took a bit of her hair and yanked on it. One day she just decided to tell him about her grandpa while she was rocking my little brother, then sang him the song he used to sing to my mom. She said she could literally feel something "leave" from around her and her hair was staticy when she looked in the mirror a few minutes later.

2. One of my moms childhood friends developed brain cancer. He was in a coma and expected to die soon. His family wansn't religious at all. Their kids would know nothing about religion. One day he mysteriously woke up and asked his mom what was for breakfast. They were shocked. They found out the cancer went into remission. He later says, 'you know mom, they sent me back'. the mom was like, who did? He was like st. peter and st. paul were fighting over me and couldn't decide who was going to get me, so they sent me back.

Those two scenareos could both be down to the power of human imaginings and nothing more.

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="mattyftm"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

I'm positive there is since my mom has had some paranormal experiences. And she is not one to lie.. not even a white lie.

RationalAtheist

What some people see as a paranormal experience, may actualy have a perfectly scientific explination. She may not be lying, but she may be missinterpretating what she saw.

I'll explain what happend:

1. About a week before my little brother was born, my moms grandpa died. after he was born, when my mom would try to rock him to sleep, she would feel something pull her hair. But nothing was there. Literally like someone took a bit of her hair and yanked on it. One day she just decided to tell him about her grandpa while she was rocking my little brother, then sang him the song he used to sing to my mom. She said she could literally feel something "leave" from around her and her hair was staticy when she looked in the mirror a few minutes later.

2. One of my moms childhood friends developed brain cancer. He was in a coma and expected to die soon. His family wansn't religious at all. Their kids would know nothing about religion. One day he mysteriously woke up and asked his mom what was for breakfast. They were shocked. They found out the cancer went into remission. He later says, 'you know mom, they sent me back'. the mom was like, who did? He was like st. peter and st. paul were fighting over me and couldn't decide who was going to get me, so they sent me back.

Those two scenareos could both be down to the power of human imaginings and nothing more.

umm.. no. In the first one, my dad could literally see my moms hair being pulled. It was nothing imaginary. The second one, they were athiests. The kids knew NOTHING about religion. Then the kid wakes up out of a coma and says st. peter and paul were fighting over him? The kid would have no idea who the hell peter and paul is.

Those two scenareos could both be down to the power of human imaginings and nothing more.RationalAtheist

The kid would have no idea who the hell peter and paul is.The_Mac_Daddy

You're saying this kid had no access to the internet, television, or other human beings who might have spoken of those two individuals?

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]The kid would have no idea who the hell peter and paul is.Jandurin

You're saying this kid had no access to the internet, television, or other human beings who might have spoken of those two individuals?

This was my moms childhood friend in like the 60's or 70's. no internet. limited television. and why just waking up out of a coma would you say that if you didn't really see something?

This was my moms childhood friend in like the 60's or 70's. no internet. limited television. and why just waking up out of a coma would you say that if you didn't really see something? The_Mac_Daddy

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]This was my moms childhood friend in like the 60's or 70's. no internet. limited television. and why just waking up out of a coma would you say that if you didn't really see something? Jandurin

But for that to be what you say right out of a coma, is pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy for someone religious to say. Much less a kid. Even much less the kid of athiest parents.

But for that to be what you say right out of a coma, is pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy for someone religious to say. Much less a kid. Even much less the kid of athiest parents. The_Mac_Daddy

umm.. no. In the first one, my dad could literally see my moms hair being pulled. It was nothing imaginary. The second one, they were athiests. The kids knew NOTHING about religion. Then the kid wakes up out of a coma and says st. peter and paul were fighting over him? The kid would have no idea who the hell peter and paul is.

The_Mac_Daddy

Its curious how you mention this new eye-witness now, rather than in the story. Hair can move through wind, static and contact with objects (like chairs). Hair can be perceived to move (as in hair crawl and hair standing on end).

In the second one, I guess the unconcious mental state of the child in hospital was emotional. I imagine they were using opioid drugs on him (that have known hallucinitory side effects. A known side effect of brain cancers is hallucinatory states, due to abnormal pressures on the brain. Peter and Paul are not only religious figures, but names used in children's songs and sayings. Why would these apostles fight, if this were true?

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]This was my moms childhood friend in like the 60's or 70's. no internet. limited television. and why just waking up out of a coma would you say that if you didn't really see something? The_Mac_Daddy

But for that to be what you say right out of a coma, is pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy for someone religious to say. Much less a kid. Even much less the kid of athiest parents.

Nah, not really. Kids are very open to religion and religious arguments. Even if his parents didn't teach it to him, chances are he picked it up somewhere.

If we truely are energy condensed to a slow vibration and energy cannot be destroyed, then I suppose it is natural to assume that this energy is only moved or changed into another form. This energy doesnt exactly dissappear from existence. I shall probably never know for certain in this body, but it does make you think...jer_1

...Yes, it makes me wonder where you get this idea that "we truly are energy condensed into a slow vibration" from.

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[QUOTE="mattyftm"]I belive in spirits. My favorits is gin. But ghosts, no.mattyftm

are u talking about the things pakistan people call em "gins" or something completely diffrent. also yh i belive in gins.

I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. I mean the juniper flavoured spirit (as in alcoholic spirit) Gin.

gin and juice :D

[QUOTE="jer_1"]If we truely are energy condensed to a slow vibration and energy cannot be destroyed, then I suppose it is natural to assume that this energy is only moved or changed into another form. This energy doesnt exactly dissappear from existence. I shall probably never know for certain in this body, but it does make you think...RationalAtheist

...Yes, it makes me wonder where you get this idea that "we truly are energy condensed into a slow vibration" from.

Actually this was spoken about by Einstein.

http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/voice1.htm

He talks a bit about it in this little voice clip, on this page.

"It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing -- a somewhat unfamiliar conception for the average mind. Furthermore, the equation E is equal to m c-squared, in which energy is put equal to mass, multiplied by the square of the velocity of light, showed that very small amounts of mass may be converted into a very large amount of energy and vice versa. The mass and energy were in fact equivalent, according to the formula mentioned above. This was demonstrated by Cockcroft and Walton in 1932, experimentally." -Albert Einstein

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umm.. no. In the first one, my dad could literally see my moms hair being pulled. It was nothing imaginary. The second one, they were athiests. The kids knew NOTHING about religion. Then the kid wakes up out of a coma and says st. peter and paul were fighting over him? The kid would have no idea who the hell peter and paul is.

RationalAtheist

Its curious how you mention this new eye-witness now, rather than in the story. Hair can move through wind, static and contact with objects (like chairs). Hair can be perceived to move (as in hair crawl and hair standing on end).

In the second one, I guess the unconcious mental state of the child in hospital was emotional. I imagine they were using opioid drugs on him (that have known hallucinitory side effects. A known side effect of brain cancers is hallucinatory states, due to abnormal pressures on the brain. Peter and Paul are not only religious figures, but names used in children's songs and sayings. Why would these apostles fight, if this were true?

I didn't think it was important to mention my dad seeing my moms hair being pulled. I've told the story so many times i make it less and less detailed each time cuz i get tired of telling it when ghost topics come up. It wasn't wind, static, or contact with objects. It was obviously being pulled. Like if i would take a chunk of a girls hair and pull it.. to the point it hurts a little.

The second one, i guess it's possible it was a hallucination. But what makes it so crazy is after he woke up, he said that. And they discovered his cancer went into remission. It's like his story matched what was actually happening in his body. And i don't know why the apostles would fight. He said they said that they couldn't decide who was going to "get him", so they just decided to "send him back".