Do you believe in Heaven ?

If you do well you will go to Heaven .If you do wrong you go to hell I ear this sentences since i was a young boy .I do not believe them anymore heaven or hell are in THIS life and many times the bad guys have it all and good guys are condemned to a sad existence .This is my opinion i would like to listen to yours

No. Everyone makes their own heaven and hell on Earth.foxhound_fox

I believe that each person creates and lives through their time in either heaven or hell while they're alive on earth. People who believe they are doing good and will come to a heaven when they die can relax and not worry too much when they're alive, while people who constantly worry about their god wanting to punish them for their sins, real or imagined, are -literally- going through hell.

Hope this made any kind of sense...

Yes, because it comforts me to believe that there is a place somewhere in the universe (or outside of it) that is without these topics.Dracargen

:lol: You win.

I do not believe in God, therefore I do not believe in Heaven.UTXII

Yes, because it comforts me to believe that there is a place somewhere in the universe (or outside of it) that is without these topics.Dracargen

Im not religious, so no.

Hardly heaven, but something beside this "reality", of course. I mean, the infinity of the reach of our mind, can only mean it's not ending anytime soon.

Man, i have so many, many beliefs and hopes, too many to describe here, in just one post. It took me 5 years to reach this point, i can't take it all out in a paragraph. Sorry man.

I don't see any proof to prove it. I also don't see any proof to disprove it.

So, in other words, we'll find out.

If you think about it Heaven is a bribe:?

If you obey 'gods' rules you go to Heaven, if not you're stuck with pain and torture in Hell:twisted:

I don't see any proof to prove it. I also don't see any proof to disprove it.

So, in other words, we'll find out.

dog64

[QUOTE="dog64"]

I don't see any proof to prove it. I also don't see any proof to disprove it.

So, in other words, we'll find out.

CptJSparrow

You won't know. :)

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="dog64"]

I don't see any proof to prove it. I also don't see any proof to disprove it.

So, in other words, we'll find out.

xXBuffJeffXx

You won't know. :)

[QUOTE="dog64"]

I don't see any proof to prove it. I also don't see any proof to disprove it.

So, in other words, we'll find out.

CptJSparrow

Indeed it would. But there's alot of hope out there that there's a place good people go after death, to meet with loved ones again. It would be a shame if that isn't true, yes?

No, I don't exactly understand the concept of heaven either. How could any place with humans in it ever be perfect?espoac

Apparently, only your soul goes to heaven, not your human body. Either that, or humans in heaven are perfect.

[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="dog64"]

I don't see any proof to prove it. I also don't see any proof to disprove it.

So, in other words, we'll find out.

CptJSparrow

You won't know. :)

By "answers nothing" I assumed you meant that there was no life after death in a state of cognition. In that sense, you wouldn't know any better, so it wouldn't matter.

Indeed it would. But there's alot of hope out there that there's a place good people go after death, to meet with loved ones again. It would be a shame if that isn't true, yes?

dog64

as a muslim yes i do believe in heavenNSR34GTR

By "answers nothing" I assumed you meant that there was no life after death in a state of cognition. In that sense, you wouldn't know any better, so it wouldn't matter.

xXBuffJeffXx

I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.Dopemonk736

Well God forgives sin...:| You just gotto ask for it :)

Not hard ;)

[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

By "answers nothing" I assumed you meant that there was no life after death in a state of cognition. In that sense, you wouldn't know any better, so it wouldn't matter.

CptJSparrow

Well, any alternative to a state devoid of cognition would answer something wouldn't it?

I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.Dopemonk736

I have to ask: why would you want to be MADE good if you didn't feel like doing it yourself in the first place?

[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]as a muslim yes i do believe in heavendelol

muslim heaven has more sexy time. that sounds better than simply being in god's presense.

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.xSIZEMATTER

Well God forgives sin...:| You just gotto ask for it :)

Not hard ;)

solution: ask for it on your death bed, saves all that time going to confession ;)

[QUOTE="dog64"]

Indeed it would. But there's alot of hope out there that there's a place good people go after death, to meet with loved ones again. It would be a shame if that isn't true, yes?

CptJSparrow

"All good things must end someday". Life, while a good thing, should have unlimited value as it is the best possesion you can ever have.

It would be nice if there was a heaven.

[QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.Dopemonk736

Well God forgives sin...:| You just gotto ask for it :)

Not hard ;)

solution: ask for it on your death bed, saves all that time going to confession ;)

:lol: Good luck

I'm sure God WILL fall for that :P

[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]as a muslim yes i do believe in heavenLoG-Sacrament

muslim heaven has more sexy time. that sounds better than simply being in god's presense.

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.Dracargen

I have to ask: why would you want to be MADE good if you didn't feel like doing it yourself in the first place?

well maybe some people are born evil, I would want to be made good so I don't have to burn in hell for the rest of eternity anyways. I don't know, evil people are weird. like the manson family.

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.xSIZEMATTER

Well God forgives sin...:| You just gotto ask for it :)

Not hard ;)

solution: ask for it on your death bed, saves all that time going to confession ;)

:lol: Good luck

I'm sure God WILL fall for that :P

I sure hope so.

Well, any alternative to a state devoid of cognition would answer something wouldn't it?

xXBuffJeffXx

"All good things must end someday". Life, while a good thing, should have unlimited value as it is the best possesion you can ever have.

dog64

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.Dopemonk736

I have to ask: why would you want to be MADE good if you didn't feel like doing it yourself in the first place?

well maybe some people are born evil, I would want to be made good so I don't have to burn in hell for the rest of eternity anyways. I don't know, evil people are weird. like the manson family.

Nobody is born good or evil.:|

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Dopemonk736"]I believe in heaven, but not hell. If god is so forgiving then why would he send people to hell? why would he send people to hell anyways? he would just be feuling satan's army. also, he's freaking God, if he wanted to, he could MAKE people good, and then send them to heaven.Dracargen

I have to ask: why would you want to be MADE good if you didn't feel like doing it yourself in the first place?

well maybe some people are born evil, I would want to be made good so I don't have to burn in hell for the rest of eternity anyways. I don't know, evil people are weird. like the manson family.

Nobody is born good or evil.:|

well many people believe so, I am not saying that I believe it though. How do you know no one is born good or evil?

[QUOTE="dog64"]

"All good things must end someday". Life, while a good thing, should have unlimited value as it is the best possesion you can ever have.

CptJSparrow

And that was my point. Life is priceless, and yet it's the most "expensive" thing you can own. Imo, life should have no end. A heaven would bring an exception to that saying above.

[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

Well, any alternative to a state devoid of cognition would answer something wouldn't it?

CptJSparrow

dog64

I'd argue it does, yes. I don't see how you can retain memories and be incognizant.