Do you believe in revenge, or being the better man?

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#1 NihilSleighride
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I have always believed in being the better man in situations, but going through life (18 now,) it seems to me that seeking justice for yourself is very important.

What do you believe in OT? :?

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#2 yokofox33
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After reading The Count of Monte Cristo, I've learned that revenge is something that must be planned and perfected before even trying to attempt. You have to be patient in order to exact your revenge.

At the same time, no matter how much you've planned something may still go wrong. The book made revenge to be both bitter and sweet. If I really wanted to exact my revenge on someone, I'd have to put in the dedication and effort to make sure it's perfect.

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#3 Famiking
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Revenge is stupid, you're going to die eventually so what can you contribute to this world asides from constant consuming?

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#4 DrSponge
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At the end you're left empty.
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#5 Ceraby
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I used to believe in revenge. But after years of plotting, scheming, faking,and knife sharpening ... when the day of revenge finally came I just got lazy and went Eh , f**k it...

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#6 AustXilo
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I don't know. I've never been in that situation. Usually it's others that want to take revenge on me. Fortunately, my job as a hit man usually makes it so that people who would want revenge are already dead.

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#7 sAndroid17
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Definate Revenge!

my view's on life are thus!

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#8 -Makaveli-
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I think the term "better man" is used with quite a bit of false assumption.

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#9 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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I do not see any reason why you cannot be both.
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#10 Pirate700
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There is a time for either but in general being the better man is ideal.

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#11 spazzx625
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Do they have to be mutually exclusive?
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#12 Pirate700
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Do they have to be mutually exclusive?spazzx625
In general, yes.

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#13 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Do they have to be mutually exclusive?Pirate700

In general, yes.

I would like to think that sometimes revenge is the best answer...And you aren't automatically defected from being 'the better man' because of it.
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#14 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Do they have to be mutually exclusive?spazzx625

In general, yes.

I would like to think that sometimes revenge is the best answer...And you aren't automatically defected from being 'the better man' because of it.

Being the better man means you brush it off and don't retaliate. If you take revenge you are disquallified from being the better man status. You may actually be a "better" man but in terms of the saying, they are mutually exclusive.

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#15 Omni-Slash
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it depends....being the "better man" exclusively means your a doormat and no one respects that......being spitefull also has its downfalls.....you have to have a balance....I can honeslty say though...if anyone were to hurt my family or close friends....they've got a painful ass kicking coming....
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#16 spazzx625
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Being the better man means you brush it off and don't retaliate. If you take revenge you are disquallified from being the better man status. You may actually be a "better" man but in terms of the saying, they are mutually exclusive.

Pirate700
Yeah, I'm familiar with the saying....But I think 'being the better man' is kind of a misnomer. Sometimes ACTION is needed! *runs through a window*
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#17 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Being the better man means you brush it off and don't retaliate. If you take revenge you are disquallified from being the better man status. You may actually be a "better" man but in terms of the saying, they are mutually exclusive.

spazzx625

Yeah, I'm familiar with the saying....But I think 'being the better man' is kind of a misnomer. Sometimes ACTION is needed! *runs through a window*

:lol: I suppose I can't argue with that. Especially since you ran through a window.

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#18 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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Being the better man means you brush it off and don't retaliate. If you take revenge you are disquallified from being the better man status. You may actually be a "better" man but in terms of the saying, they are mutually exclusive.

Pirate700
I am not going to let other people determine what is and is not better to, or for, me.
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#19 Head_of_games
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I believe in being such a better man that everyone else will get my revenge for me!
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#20 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Being the better man means you brush it off and don't retaliate. If you take revenge you are disquallified from being the better man status. You may actually be a "better" man but in terms of the saying, they are mutually exclusive.

Welkabonz

I am not going to let other people determine what is and is not better to, or for, me.

Do you have any clue what this thread is about? Nobody asked what was better for the individual. This thread is about the saying. :|

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#21 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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Do you have any clue what this thread is about? Nobody asked what was better for the individual. This thread is about the saying. :|

Pirate700
And I chose to call out the saying as untenable.
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#22 DrSponge
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Do you have any clue what this thread is about? Nobody asked what was better for the individual. This thread is about the saying. :|

Welkabonz
And I chose to call out the saying as untenable.

But the saying refers to what society as a whole deems as "better" and more morally "good", as in, the less evil act, not what's good for you personally.
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#23 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"] But the saying refers to what society as a whole deems as "better" and more morally "good", as in, the less evil act, not what's good for you personally.

Just because society believes it does not mean that it is true.
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#24 DrSponge
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[QUOTE="Welkabonz"][QUOTE="DrSponge"] But the saying refers to what society as a whole deems as "better" and more morally "good", as in, the less evil act, not what's good for you personally.

Just because society believes it does not mean that it is true.

Yeah, but the saying was made by society.
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#25 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="Welkabonz"][QUOTE="DrSponge"] But the saying refers to what society as a whole deems as "better" and more morally "good", as in, the less evil act, not what's good for you personally.

Just because society believes it does not mean that it is true.

Yeah, but the saying was made by society.

I understand that. My concern is concerning its validity.
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#26 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Welkabonz"][QUOTE="DrSponge"] But the saying refers to what society as a whole deems as "better" and more morally "good", as in, the less evil act, not what's good for you personally.DrSponge
Just because society believes it does not mean that it is true.

Yeah, but the saying was made by society.

And the last time I checked we LIVE in society. "Just because society believes it"...wow. :lol:

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#27 ragek1ll589
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Most of the times I opt for being the better man.

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#28 Pirate700
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BTW, the saying is "bigger man" not better. :)

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#29 DrSponge
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="Welkabonz"] Just because society believes it does not mean that it is true.Pirate700

Yeah, but the saying was made by society.

And the last time I checked we LIVE in society. "Just because society believes it"...wow. :lol:

By society we're referring to the general populace, he might have differing opinions.
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#30 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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And the last time I checked we LIVE in society. "Just because society believes it"...wow. :lol:

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Your point is highly evasive, and I feel the need to question if we live in society simply because society is around us. Other people are external to the individual.
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#31 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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BTW, the saying is "bigger man" not better. :)

Pirate700
The topic creator said 'better', meaning that what you claim to be "the" saying is irrelevant.
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#32 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

BTW, the saying is "bigger man" not better. :)

Welkabonz

The topic creator said 'better', meaning that what you claim to be "the" saying is irrelevant.

It is pretty clear what the TC was refering to.

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#33 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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It is pretty clear what the TC was refering to.

Pirate700
It is more clear that you are assuming that he was referring to it. Regardless, if we are to accept DrSponge's proposition that by 'society' we are referring to the general population, the majority, then it does not matter whether the topic creator was referring to it or not, nor if your saying is the 'actual' one because its validity remains as untenable in each case.
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#34 AustXilo
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Welkabonz"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

BTW, the saying is "bigger man" not better. :)

The topic creator said 'better', meaning that what you claim to be "the" saying is irrelevant.

It is pretty clear what the TC was refering to.

Agreed.
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#35 papermariofan57
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revenge is one of the worst things in world, why you will try and find revenge? at the end you will be alone, you will list your friends, family, everything in other words.

i prefer been the better man, i always try and help other people with their cases, situations and problems.

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#36 AustXilo
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[QUOTE="papermariofan57"]

revenge is one of the worst things in world, why you will try and find revenge? at the end you will be alone, you will list your friends, family, everything in other words.

i prefer been the better man, i always try and help other people with their cases, situations and problems.

Mainly, because it's fun.
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#37 mindstorm
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By calling it being a "better man" is answering your own question.
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#38 shyskillz
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depends on the situation. being the better man is the admirable and noble way to go. but, some things you just can't let slide....everyone haves their limits. you can onlystand there looking cool for so long with your left eye twitching.

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#39 ridethepiggy
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Both. Depends on the situation!