do you believe time exists?

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#1 ZumaJones07
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i still don't think time exists as an entity by itself because everything is physical and time is not physical. Time does not affect any parts of the universe because the universe is actually governed by the speed of light, which is a physical and measurable entity. Time is just good for us humans to keep track of stuff. do you believe time exists?
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#2 turtlethetaffer
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I was thinking about time today, and it really fasicnates me... the world revolves around time, but, really, what matters most is the rpesent. The only place we ever are on the timeline is the present. It's really interesting to think about...

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#3 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]i still don't think time exists as an entity by itself because everything is physical and time is not physical. Time does not affect any parts of the universe because the universe is actually governed by the speed of light, which is a physical and measurable entity. Time is just good for us humans to keep track of stuff. do you believe time exists?

well if you mean time as in measurement, than no, that doesnt actually exist. But there is a force that we can describe as "time" that does exist. Try running very fast around the sun and then come back to Earth and youll see this force in action
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#4 TChaivong
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You canspeed time if your really fast and you can back in time if you can go backwards fast.

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#5 branketra
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At this point, the popular theory is that space and time are so closely linked that it's improper to differentiate the two. Hence, "spacetime."
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#7 branketra
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]i still don't think time exists as an entity by itself because everything is physical and time is not physical. Time does not affect any parts of the universe because the universe is actually governed by the speed of light, which is a physical and measurable entity. Time is just good for us humans to keep track of stuff. do you believe time exists?thegerg
well if you mean time as in measurement, than no, that doesnt actually exist. But there is a force that we can describe as "time" that does exist. Try running very fast around the sun and then come back to Earth and youll see this force in action

You seem to be confused. Time, as a measurement, certainly does exist.

Yeah. Light years, for example.
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#8 metroidprime55
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Time is measured by ones perspective of the universe, we measure time by the Earths own rotation and its rotation around the sun, anywhere else and these rules don't apply. How does one measure time in the space between galaxies?
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#9 Maniacc1
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If I'm 15 minutes late, my accounting professor kicks me out of class. So yes, time exists.
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#11 z4twenny
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TS doesn't understand how time works

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#12 branketra
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Time is measured by ones perspective of the universe, we measure time by the Earths own rotation and its rotation around the sun, anywhere else and these rules don't apply. How does one measure time in the space between galaxies? metroidprime55
Well, a light year is actually a measure of distance. I don't know all the details, but I think scientists use the speed of light to measure the distance of light-emitting objects or in some cases, light reflecting ones (planets). Then, they calculate how long it took for the light to get here. That's how they came to the conclusion that the universe is around 14 billion years old.
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#13 ZumaJones07
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TS doesn't understand how time works

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if it doesn't exist, then it can't work. :?
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#15 slimdave21
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No, I don't believe time exists as a physical entity. It's just a measurement system we live by keep track of the years, months, days, seconds and age. By the way, the speed of light has been beaten by the neutrino particle and the laws of physics need to be rewritten.
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#16 ZumaJones07
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By the way, the speed of light has been beaten by the neutrino particle and the laws of physics need to be written.

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I read about that awhile back and it made me more confused. So theoretically, if one of those things was visible to the naked eye, and it was shooting towards your head, it would have already gone through your head before you even saw it because it is traveling faster than the light emitting from its front end.
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#18 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]i still don't think time exists as an entity by itself because everything is physical and time is not physical. Time does not affect any parts of the universe because the universe is actually governed by the speed of light, which is a physical and measurable entity. Time is just good for us humans to keep track of stuff. do you believe time exists?

well if you mean time as in measurement, than no, that doesnt actually exist. But there is a force that we can describe as "time" that does exist. Try running very fast around the sun and then come back to Earth and youll see this force in action

You seem to be confused. Time, as a measurement, certainly does exist.

it is exists as a measurement, but its not a physical force of any kind. It only exists in our heads.
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#19 Joshywaa
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[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]Time is measured by ones perspective of the universe, we measure time by the Earths own rotation and its rotation around the sun, anywhere else and these rules don't apply. How does one measure time in the space between galaxies? BranKetra
Well, a light year is actually a measure of distance. I don't know all the details, but I think scientists use the speed of light to measure the distance of light-emitting objects or in some cases, light reflecting ones (planets). Then, they calculate how long it took for the light to get here. That's how they came to the conclusion that the universe is around 14 billion years old.

or, simply, the distance light can travel in a year

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#21 AussieePet
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="thegerg"] You seem to be confused. Time, as a measurement, certainly does exist.

it is exists as a measurement, but its not a physical force of any kind. It only exists in our heads.

That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist as a measurement. That's like saying that weight or distance don't exist.

Agreed
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#22 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="thegerg"] You seem to be confused. Time, as a measurement, certainly does exist.

it is exists as a measurement, but its not a physical force of any kind. It only exists in our heads.

That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist as a measurement. That's like saying that weight or distance don't exist.

weight only exists because of gravity. Everything has mass, but not weight
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#23 chaoscougar1
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i still don't think time exists as an entity by itself because everything is physical and time is not physical. Time does not affect any parts of the universe because the universe is actually governed by the speed of light, which is a physical and measurable entity. Time is just good for us humans to keep track of stuff. do you believe time exists?ZumaJones07

Uh what? Second law of thermodyanmics/Thermodynamic arrow of time?

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#25 Ace6301
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Time is the measurement used in determining the sequence of linear events. As long as events remain linear you'd be hard pressed to argue that time does not exist.
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#26 Am_Confucius
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Who said time is an entity?

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#27 ZumaJones07
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Who said time is an entity?

Am_Confucius
what is it then, everything is physical
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#28 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Who said time is an entity?

ZumaJones07

what is it then, everything is physical

At the very least it's a human concept, and every human concept resides in our brains which are physical, ergo time is physical.

Now everyone shut up until you properly define "time" and specify "exist".

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#29 DarthTuna
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i think time is just used to measure how long something has been alive.

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#30 Am_Confucius
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[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Who said time is an entity?

ZumaJones07
what is it then, everything is physical

I disagree with that statement. A hole doesn't consist of anything, but a hole is still a hole.
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#31 ZumaJones07
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a hole is filled with atoms and molecules and other stuff that makes up air.
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#32 Riverwolf007
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i always thought time was like a waste product from things going from a higher to lower energy state or from a more to less ordered state.

i always looked to the study of entropy to understand more about time.

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#33 Am_Confucius
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a hole is filled with atoms and molecules and other stuff that makes up air.ZumaJones07
Not necessarily.
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#34 SauceKing
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you do realize the speed of light itself is governed by time? in fact all speed is a metric that is defined by time.

this topic doesnt make any sense.

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#35 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]a hole is filled with atoms and molecules and other stuff that makes up air.Am_Confucius
Not necessarily.

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#37 ZumaJones07
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you do realize the speed of light itself is governed by time? in fact all speed is a metric that is defined by time.

this topic doesnt make any sense.

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time doesn't have exist for the speed of light to be the speed of light (C). i think C is just what it is, not governed by an outside imaginary thing, and just an entity that exists in this universe.
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#38 mingmao3046
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it's useful for humans to keep track of stuff obviously, but the universe as a whole doesnt use time. we always think of things having a start and an end....but where did the universe come from? what was before the big bang? how did those molecules to start the big bang get there? what is outside the universe? does the universe go on forever? theres many things like this
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#39 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Who said time is an entity?

thegerg
what is it then, everything is physical

You seem to be confused. Not everything is physical.

what isn't physical? i would like to know. :?
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#41 ZumaJones07
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thoughts and emotions are chemical and electrical things happening in the brain and time doesn't exist
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#43 SauceKing
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[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

you do realize the speed of light itself is governed by time? in fact all speed is a metric that is defined by time.

this topic doesnt make any sense.

ZumaJones07

time doesn't have exist for the speed of light to be the speed of light (C). i think C is just what it is, not governed by an outside imaginary thing, and just an entity that exists in this universe.

C is measured in meters per second... a second being a measure of time... so no

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#44 ZumaJones07
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anger, a thought, and things like that are just instances of the brain. the brain creates those things and if you are angry, your brain, for that instant is in one specific state. the brain is what you are talking about and that is all physical.
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#45 ZumaJones07
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C is measured in meters per second... a second being a measure of time... so no

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i don't think you understood me. i think that the speed of light is just a physical thing in the universe that happens to carry information that can be measured and understood. regardless of time, it acts the same. time may be a cool property that helps us predict things, but it's not a fundamental component of the universe.
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#46 SauceKing
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[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

C is measured in meters per second... a second being a measure of time... so no

ZumaJones07

i don't think you understood me. i think that the speed of light is just a physical thing in the universe that happens to carry information that can be measured and understood. regardless of time, it acts the same. time may be a cool property that helps us predict things, but it's not a fundamental component of the universe.

space time is a pretty basic fundamental of the universe. Maybe you will turn all of astrophysics on its head and prove it isnt... but until then... time exists and is rather important.

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#47 ZumaJones07
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if it exists then what does it do? it doesn't affect anything
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#50 Jackc8
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I don't get it. Just because time is fundamentally different than other observable things, it therefore doesn't exist? Obviously things go from one state to another over time, such as radioactive decay, the expansion of the universe, and a quadrillion other things. It's not just something humans dreamed up for our own convenience.