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#1 TheGrinchh
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the main conflict between Middle-Eastern countries is all because of a book (mainly, anyway).

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Yes, nearly two thousand years of conflict, progression, regression, and interdenominational disagreement can be boiled down to something as simple as a book. :roll:
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The Catcher in the Rye?

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The Catcher in the Rye?

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The magic book that turns ordinary people into serial killers!
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Action Comics #1?
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Guys, it's called the Koran.  Or the Quran?  Maybe the Korra...

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Guys, it's called the Koran.  Or the Quran?  Maybe the Korra...

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The show isn't quite that good.
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Guys, it's called the Koran.  Or the Quran?  Maybe the Korra...

Makhaidos

The show isn't quite that good.

 

I am inclined to agree.  Where is the hot "dick bender" chick I was promised?

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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Guys, it's called the Koran.  Or the Quran?  Maybe the Korra...

GOGOGOGURT

The show isn't quite that good.

 

I am inclined to agree.  Where is the hot "dick bender" chick I was promised?

I bet Mako could tell a few stories.
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Makhaidos"] The show isn't quite that good.Makhaidos

 

I am inclined to agree.  Where is the hot "dick bender" chick I was promised?

I bet Mako could tell a few stories.

 

Haha. So could Tenzin.  I think.

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Guys, it's called the Koran.  Or the Quran?  Maybe the Korra...

GOGOGOGURT
What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.
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the main conflict between Middle-Eastern countries is all because of a book (mainly, anyway).

TheGrinchh
No. It's not. You're really reall dumb. Do they have news in your country?
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Guys, it's called the Koran.  Or the Quran?  Maybe the Korra...

lordreaven
What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.

Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Guys, it's called the Koran.  Or the Quran?  Maybe the Korra...

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What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.

Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.

I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.
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Killing people for oil isnt any better
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.lordreaven
Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.

I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.

 

It's a nice place at the moment, however.

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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.GOGOGOGURT

I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.

 

It's a nice place at the moment, however.

So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed up
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.lordreaven

 

It's a nice place at the moment, however.

So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed up

 

I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east.  I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.

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Killing people for oil isnt any betterBucked20
sure it is.

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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

It's a nice place at the moment, however.

GOGOGOGURT

So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed up

 

I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east.  I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.

It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city.
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Killing people for oil isnt any betterMakeMeaSammitch

sure it is.

Dead people eventually turn into oil :D
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.

Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.

I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.

Is there any actual evidence for that? In any case, don't blame the beautiful city, blame the fools.
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it has more to do with the culture than the religion, there was a point in the golden age of Islam when Islamic society was progressive and secular, which is the exact opposite of what it is today, the same shit could happen here if we keep electing right wing Christian nutjobs
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed uplordreaven

 

I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east.  I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.

It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city.

For one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest.
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east.  I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.

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It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city.

For one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest.

Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.

I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.

Is there any actual evidence for that? In any case, don't blame the beautiful city, blame the fools.

"During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." I will blame the city as it's beauty is a lie that causes men to spill their blood for the God of Blood.
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What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.lordreaven
Kinda sad really. Good thing it's on it's (very slow) way out.
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I facepalmed at this thread.  Does that count?

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city.lordreaven
For one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest.

Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area.

Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.

Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.

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God of Blood.lordreaven

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.lordreaven
Is there any actual evidence for that? In any case, don't blame the beautiful city, blame the fools.

"During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." I will blame the city as it's beauty is a lie that causes men to spill their blood for the God of Blood.

That's not evidence at all. That's not even relevant to your claim.

And it's not a lie. Have you even been there?

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Hey I'd be pissed off after reading Twilight too.
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"]What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.foxhound_fox
Kinda sad really. Good thing it's on it's (very slow) way out.

Hahaha ok calm down now Stalin.
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Hahaha ok calm down now Stalin.themajormayor
I'm merely speaking towards the trend towards irreligiosity. Not necessarily atheism. Dumb sh!t.
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What I facpalm over is that people think that belief in "fairy tales" is the cause of the trouble in the middle east, that region been having trouble since pretty much the moment humans settled the region. What is even more facepalm worthy is some think just not beliving in these "fairy tales" would stop the problems.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Hahaha ok calm down now Stalin.foxhound_fox
I'm merely speaking towards the trend towards irreligiosity. Not necessarily atheism. Dumb sh!t.

That's better.
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] For one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest.themajormayor

Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area.

Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.

Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.

Actually it did, it was known as Byzantium in that time, then Emperor Constantine named it Nova Rome but the conman name was Constantinople and the name stuck. Jerusalem is happens to sit at a point that people will always move through but it's actual value is very little. Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul sit on the crossroads of continents AND trade. I'm not even counting Alexandira
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Is there any actual evidence for that? In any case, don't blame the beautiful city, blame the fools.themajormayor

"During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." I will blame the city as it's beauty is a lie that causes men to spill their blood for the God of Blood.

That's not evidence at all. That's not even relevant to your claim.

And it's not a lie. Have you even been there?

I said "That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it." and then provided the following "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." which is relevant to my claim. And I think you refer to me calling it's "Beauty" a lie a little to literal. Something can be beautiful but repulsive at the same time.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area. lordreaven

Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.

Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.

Actually it did, it was known as Byzantium in that time, then Emperor Constantine named it Nova Rome but the conman name was Constantinople and the name stuck. Jerusalem is happens to sit at a point that people will always move through but it's actual value is very little. Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul sit on the crossroads of continents AND trade. I'm not even counting Alexandira


Well I guess it depends on how you define it. Alot of cities are based on earlier settlements. I guess it's how you define it. With Constantinople it was not just a name change. It was actually the founding of a new city. It just happened to be on another city.

 

How can it sit on the crossroads of continents but not trade? That's almost oxymoronic. Have you ever heard of the Silk Road or Incense Road? They both went through Israel and it's full of cities based on those trade routes. And Jerusalem is the capital of the region.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." I will blame the city as it's beauty is a lie that causes men to spill their blood for the God of Blood.lordreaven

That's not evidence at all. That's not even relevant to your claim.

And it's not a lie. Have you even been there?

I said "That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it." and then provided the following "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." which is relevant to my claim. And I think you refer to me calling it's "Beauty" a lie a little to literal. Something can be beautiful but repulsive at the same time.

It's far fetched at best. Saying that the city has seen more people die for it than any other is hardly proved by the fact that it's been destroyed two times.

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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.

Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.

themajormayor

Actually it did, it was known as Byzantium in that time, then Emperor Constantine named it Nova Rome but the conman name was Constantinople and the name stuck. Jerusalem is happens to sit at a point that people will always move through but it's actual value is very little. Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul sit on the crossroads of continents AND trade. I'm not even counting Alexandira


Well I guess it depends on how you define it. Alot of cities are based on earlier settlements. I guess it's how you define it. With Constantinople it was not just a name change. It was actually the founding of a new city. It just happened to be on another city.

 

How can it sit on the crossroads of continents but not trade? That's almost oxymoronic. Have you ever heard of the Silk Road or Incense Road? They both went through Israel and it's full of cities based on those trade routes. And Jerusalem is the capital of the region.

Yet most of that trade also went through Anatolia and left port near Antioch to reach Greece, Alexandria and beyond. The silk road did go there but it was not a majour hub as it was not a Port city and moving goods to Alexandria and the rest of North Africa is easier, less time consuming AND cost effective than hauling it over land. So it is possible to be in a strategic position but to not be a majour trade hub. Also the Silk road traveled in many directions after leaving Persia.

Silk Road

Here is a map of it, notice how it travels towards cities like Tyre and Antioch. Sure it passed through Jerusalem but it wasn't part of the main journey.

 

EDIT: Also are you going to dispute all facts based on some pretense of National pride? If that's teh case then all I say is "Canada is #1" as that's the most I can contribute is sucha  worthless subject

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I facepalm at the fact that U.S.A is more concerned about what goes on in the middle east rather than concentrating on its own problems. That every time a conflict happens in the middle east, US just have to be big brother and meddle in their affairs...