the main conflict between Middle-Eastern countries is all because of a book (mainly, anyway).
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]The show isn't quite that good.Guys, it's called the Koran. Or the Quran? Maybe the Korra...
Makhaidos
I am inclined to agree. Where is the hot "dick bender" chick I was promised?
[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] The show isn't quite that good.Makhaidos
I am inclined to agree. Where is the hot "dick bender" chick I was promised?
I bet Mako could tell a few stories.
Haha. So could Tenzin. I think.
What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.Guys, it's called the Koran. Or the Quran? Maybe the Korra...
GOGOGOGURT
No. It's not. You're really reall dumb. Do they have news in your country?the main conflict between Middle-Eastern countries is all because of a book (mainly, anyway).
TheGrinchh
[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales. Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.Guys, it's called the Koran. Or the Quran? Maybe the Korra...
lordreaven
[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales. Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world. I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.Guys, it's called the Koran. Or the Quran? Maybe the Korra...
themajormayor
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.lordreavenJerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world. I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.
It's a nice place at the moment, however.
I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Jerusalem cursed? It's one of the most amaying cities in the world.GOGOGOGURT
It's a nice place at the moment, however.
So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed up[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.lordreaven
It's a nice place at the moment, however.
So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed up
I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east. I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.
So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed up[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]
It's a nice place at the moment, however.
GOGOGOGURT
I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east. I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.
It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city.sure it is. Dead people eventually turn into oil :D[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Killing people for oil isnt any betterMakeMeaSammitch
[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] So was Tenochtitlan the day before the Spanish showed uplordreaven
I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east. I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.
It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city. For one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest.[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city. For one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest. Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area.
I agree though, the ground is saturated with centuries of blood in the middle east. I can't blame them though, war is common, and the people have gotten used to it a long time ago.
themajormayor
What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.lordreavenKinda sad really. Good thing it's on it's (very slow) way out.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] It's way more common for that city than it should be with the following quote "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." Truly only the Blood God favours the city.lordreavenFor one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest. Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area.
Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.
Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] I wouldn't be so sure. That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it. The only god that calls that city blessed is the Blood God.lordreavenIs there any actual evidence for that? In any case, don't blame the beautiful city, blame the fools. "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." I will blame the city as it's beauty is a lie that causes men to spill their blood for the God of Blood. That's not evidence at all. That's not even relevant to your claim.
And it's not a lie. Have you even been there?
[QUOTE="lordreaven"]What i find amusing is the fact all 3 groups that claim that cursed city worship the exact same god, and only disagree about semantics like what not to eat, and which direction (some say Mecca, some say Jerusalem) really shows how far some people take their fairy tales.foxhound_foxKinda sad really. Good thing it's on it's (very slow) way out. Hahaha ok calm down now Stalin.
Hahaha ok calm down now Stalin.themajormayorI'm merely speaking towards the trend towards irreligiosity. Not necessarily atheism. Dumb sh!t.
What I facpalm over is that people think that belief in "fairy tales" is the cause of the trouble in the middle east, that region been having trouble since pretty much the moment humans settled the region. What is even more facepalm worthy is some think just not beliving in these "fairy tales" would stop the problems.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Hahaha ok calm down now Stalin.foxhound_foxI'm merely speaking towards the trend towards irreligiosity. Not necessarily atheism. Dumb sh!t. That's better.
Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area.[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] For one of the world's oldest and most important cities in the world, at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa, that's not too shabby to be honest.themajormayor
Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.
Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.
Actually it did, it was known as Byzantium in that time, then Emperor Constantine named it Nova Rome but the conman name was Constantinople and the name stuck. Jerusalem is happens to sit at a point that people will always move through but it's actual value is very little. Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul sit on the crossroads of continents AND trade. I'm not even counting Alexandira"During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." I will blame the city as it's beauty is a lie that causes men to spill their blood for the God of Blood. That's not evidence at all. That's not even relevant to your claim.[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Is there any actual evidence for that? In any case, don't blame the beautiful city, blame the fools.themajormayor
And it's not a lie. Have you even been there?
I said "That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it." and then provided the following "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." which is relevant to my claim. And I think you refer to me calling it's "Beauty" a lie a little to literal. Something can be beautiful but repulsive at the same time.[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="lordreaven"] Constantinople only fell 4 times, and was besieged 18 times. And had more of a strategic value. Now to be fair the Seleucids and Ptolemies fought over the region constantly so Jerusalem has more sieges in some regards. The point I'm making is it's less important than many other cities in the area. lordreaven
Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.
Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.
Actually it did, it was known as Byzantium in that time, then Emperor Constantine named it Nova Rome but the conman name was Constantinople and the name stuck. Jerusalem is happens to sit at a point that people will always move through but it's actual value is very little. Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul sit on the crossroads of continents AND trade. I'm not even counting Alexandira
How can it sit on the crossroads of continents but not trade? That's almost oxymoronic. Have you ever heard of the Silk Road or Incense Road? They both went through Israel and it's full of cities based on those trade routes. And Jerusalem is the capital of the region.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]That's not evidence at all. That's not even relevant to your claim.[QUOTE="lordreaven"] "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." I will blame the city as it's beauty is a lie that causes men to spill their blood for the God of Blood.lordreaven
And it's not a lie. Have you even been there?
I said "That city has seen more fools die for it than any other city. And people will keep dying for it." and then provided the following "During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times." which is relevant to my claim. And I think you refer to me calling it's "Beauty" a lie a little to literal. Something can be beautiful but repulsive at the same time.It's far fetched at best. Saying that the city has seen more people die for it than any other is hardly proved by the fact that it's been destroyed two times.
Actually it did, it was known as Byzantium in that time, then Emperor Constantine named it Nova Rome but the conman name was Constantinople and the name stuck. Jerusalem is happens to sit at a point that people will always move through but it's actual value is very little. Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul sit on the crossroads of continents AND trade. I'm not even counting Alexandira[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]
Constantinople didn't exist when the Seleucids were in the region. I think it was something like almost a millenia before Constantinople was founded. That is why I emphasised the age of Jerusalem. Obviously an older city will be more likely to experience more war.
Constantinople is more important in some regards. Jerusalem in others. Very few cities in the world are as important as Jerusalem historically.
themajormayor
How can it sit on the crossroads of continents but not trade? That's almost oxymoronic. Have you ever heard of the Silk Road or Incense Road? They both went through Israel and it's full of cities based on those trade routes. And Jerusalem is the capital of the region.
Yet most of that trade also went through Anatolia and left port near Antioch to reach Greece, Alexandria and beyond. The silk road did go there but it was not a majour hub as it was not a Port city and moving goods to Alexandria and the rest of North Africa is easier, less time consuming AND cost effective than hauling it over land. So it is possible to be in a strategic position but to not be a majour trade hub. Also the Silk road traveled in many directions after leaving Persia.Silk Road
Here is a map of it, notice how it travels towards cities like Tyre and Antioch. Sure it passed through Jerusalem but it wasn't part of the main journey.
EDIT: Also are you going to dispute all facts based on some pretense of National pride? If that's teh case then all I say is "Canada is #1" as that's the most I can contribute is sucha worthless subject
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