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#51 DJ_Lae
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If I'm not going to eat meat I'm certainly not going to replace it with cereal. Or cereals, if we're talking whole grains and barley. And slaughtering animals is not inhumane and cruel if done correctly - if that's such a concern there are plenty of places to order free-range meat that's captive-bolt stunned in an efficient and consistent manner. The loss of being able to eat meat seems to be particularly cruel, and many of the reasons are easily balanced with a bit of care when choosing the source of your foods - same goes with vegan offerings, really. For all the horror of certain slaughterhouses do you happily consume genetically modified and pesticide-ridden soybeans from China via meat analogues, prepared meals, and tofu? Yes, there's no cute animals to make youtube videos of, but you're doing your body as much (or more) harm and contributing nothing but pain and misery on the environment.
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#52 HorseVillain
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In different situations...LightR

That's irrelevant, nature says it's okay.

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#53 HorseVillain
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Yeah, and so are internet arguments. But that hasn't stopped you has it?metroidfood

I'm not arguing, and I wouldn't say that it's on the same level as eating a dog or a human baby.

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#54 _rock_
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If a cow got a chance to eat you and everyone you love, I bet he would take it!
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#55 MgamerBD
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Meh more for me...
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#56 HorseVillain
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If a cow got a chance to eat you and everyone you love, I bet he would take it!_rock_

Cows are herbivores so you lost that bet.

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#57 HorseVillain
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But if we're playing the nature game, then we're at the top of the food chain. nothing wrong with us eating animals.-Pro-Link-

I would hardly say humans are really playing the "nature game" at this point.

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#58 Epak_
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[QUOTE="XEscapeTheFateX"]

hate how people treat animals like they're some piece of trash..

-Pro-Link-

No...We treat them like a piece of meat. :P

Exactly.

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#59 _rock_
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[QUOTE="_rock_"]If a cow got a chance to eat you and everyone you love, I bet he would take it!HorseVillain

Cows are herbivores so you lost that bet.

Thats what they tell you ;)
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#60 -Pro-Link-
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[QUOTE="-Pro-Link-"]But if we're playing the nature game, then we're at the top of the food chain. nothing wrong with us eating animals.HorseVillain

I would hardly say humans are really playing the "nature game" at this point.

I was talking about you and rock... :P
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#61 Rougehunter
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People have been killing animals for food for thousands of years. What difference does it make now?

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#62 LightR
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[QUOTE="HorseVillain"]

[QUOTE="LightR"][QUOTE="HorseVillain"]

But nature says both are okay.

In different situations...

That's irrelevant, nature says it's okay.

It's hardly irrelevant. You don't see poor families around the world eating their own young because they have no food instead of starving to death. Just because nature says it's "okay" doesn't mean we have to do it.
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#63 Democratik
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Do you love cereal and hate meat? Become a vegan today! Join the revolution! :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzc9rMzTv2w

But seriously, slaughtering animals is not right. Have you seen videos on what they do to animals? It's disgusting and cruel. Animal testing isn't right either. Animals also have hearts. They're not things you can just mess around with. I hate how people treat animals like they're some piece of trash..
Cereal ftw.
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XEscapeTheFateX

Animal testing is fine. Because it saves human lives. Dont believe me? Talk to a diabetic as far as cereal is concerned, i hope you dont have milk with it if youre a vegan...

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#64 garathe_den
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Does soy milk taste similar to regular milk? Even if it doesn't, at least it won't have that sour milk smell if it's split...

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#65 krazykillaz
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I certainly do love cereal. I also love meat and I've seen the worst of the worst animal slaughter propaganda videos. Hasn't affected my ability to enjoy a delicious steak.
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#66 DJ_Lae
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Does soy milk taste similar to regular milk? Even if it doesn't, at least it won't have that sour milk smell if it's split...

garathe_den
It looks similar from a distance. When you drink it, though, it doesn't taste much like milk at all - more like powder-based protein shakes, except instead of a powdery mouthfeel it goes down more like phlegm. It also lingers in your mouth for hours after you drink it with a rancid almond-like aftertaste.
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#67 krazykillaz
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Thats nice... Now I'm going to cook some bacon.HorseVillain

Considering that pigs are just as emotional and slightly more intelligent than dogs, that's not quite right. Would you eat a dog?

Why do people think it's wrong to eat dogs exactly? Because people keep them as pets? I'd have no problem trying dog if it was offered to me.
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#68 -Pro-Link-
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[QUOTE="garathe_den"]

Does soy milk taste similar to regular milk? Even if it doesn't, at least it won't have that sour milk smell if it's split...

DJ_Lae
It looks similar from a distance. When you drink it, though, it doesn't taste much like milk at all - more like powder-based protein shakes, except instead of a powdery mouthfeel it goes down more like phlegm. It also lingers in your mouth for hours after you drink it with a rancid almond-like aftertaste.

....That sounds terrible...Why would anyone drink that instead of real milk unless they're lactose intolerant...That's nasty...Bleh!
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#69 GettingTired
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I love cereal and I'm a vegan.
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#70 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"][QUOTE="garathe_den"]

Does soy milk taste similar to regular milk? Even if it doesn't, at least it won't have that sour milk smell if it's split...

-Pro-Link-

It looks similar from a distance. When you drink it, though, it doesn't taste much like milk at all - more like powder-based protein shakes, except instead of a powdery mouthfeel it goes down more like phlegm. It also lingers in your mouth for hours after you drink it with a rancid almond-like aftertaste.

....That sounds terrible...Why would anyone drink that instead of real milk unless they're lactose intolerant...That's nasty...Bleh!

Even lactose intolerants have better alternatives:

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#71 Good-Apollo
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[QUOTE="HorseVillain"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Thats nice... Now I'm going to cook some bacon.krazykillaz

Considering that pigs are just as emotional and slightly more intelligent than dogs, that's not quite right. Would you eat a dog?

Why do people think it's wrong to eat dogs exactly? Because people keep them as pets? I'd have no problem trying dog if it was offered to me.

Because dogs for thousands of years have been used as companions to humans (man's best friend, anyone?), not only that they have proven themselves in providing many helpful services. Pigs on the other hand have been bred since the ancient times for the sole purpose of harvesting.

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#72 0Tyler0
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I was a vegetarian once. Well I tried it just to see how long I could go. I went for about 4 months until I snapped
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#73 Dman0017
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Man I would really like a delicious steak right now medium cooked A.1 sauce mmmm XD4NTESINF3RNOX
sounds good but i would prefer a full rack of ribs with a honey barbecue sauce
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#74 Shad0ki11
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Oh yeah?

Yeah, that's right.

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#75 HorseVillain
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It's hardly irrelevant. You don't see poor families around the world eating their own young because they have no food instead of starving to death. Just because nature says it's "okay" doesn't mean we have to do it.LightR

So you prove my point.

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#76 F1_2004
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Tons of small animals die by being mangled by farming equipment during harvests. Vegans kill animals too.
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#77 Lief_Ericson
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Sorry I love meat and milk

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#78 HorseVillain
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Tons of small animals die by being mangled by farming equipment during harvests. Vegans kill animals too.F1_2004

Which is irrelevant as it's unintentional.

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#79 Shad0ki11
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If you don't eat meat, the animals will have died or been slaughtered in vain. :P

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#80 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]Man I would really like a delicious steak right now medium cooked A.1 sauce mmmm Dman0017
sounds good but i would prefer a full rack of ribs with a honey barbecue sauce

dam...you just made me even more hunger and I just had mcdonald's an hour ago you jerk! :(

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#81 daqua_99
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Nah I'll stick to eating my meat (goes to dinner with a plate full of chicken)

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#82 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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*steals chicken*

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#83 HorseVillain
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If you don't eat meat, the animals will have died or been slaughtered in vain. :PShad0ki11

That could be true, if vegetarians were buying meat just to throw in the trash, but as far as I know they aren't, so it's not.

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#84 WestSideAzn
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I love cereal, meat, and vegetables/fruits. I like to be well-rounded in a lot of things in my life. However, food control is key to a good diet. Oh, and, why should we care about how people treat animals before they get turned into food for humans?
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#85 F1_2004
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Tons of small animals die by being mangled by farming equipment during harvests. Vegans kill animals too.HorseVillain

Which is irrelevant as it's unintentional.


Hardly irrelevant. Animals couldn't care less whether we intended to mangle them underneath a tractor.

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#86 HorseVillain
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Nah I'll stick to eating my meat (goes to dinner with a plate full of chicken)daqua_99

Good job, you're like the 20th person in this topic to make that kind of spiteful comment, what creativity.

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#87 HorseVillain
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Hardly irrelevant. Animals couldn't care less whether we intended to mangle them underneath a tractor.F1_2004

Which is irrelevant as it's unintentional. Going by your logic it'd be perfectly fine to molotov a Zoo because you unknowingly, unintentionally ran over a mouse.

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#88 WestSideAzn
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[QUOTE="HorseVillain"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Tons of small animals die by being mangled by farming equipment during harvests. Vegans kill animals too.F1_2004

Which is irrelevant as it's unintentional.


Hardly irrelevant. Animals couldn't care less whether we intended to mangle them underneath a tractor.

When we accidentally kill another human being by way of vehicular manslaughter, we still get in trouble for it. No matter what way you put it, murder by intention or accident lands you in the lockup. Same as killing an animal. Taking a life -- it is what it is.

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#89 HorseVillain
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When we accidentally kill another human being by way of vehicular manslaughter, we still get in trouble for it. No matter what way you put it, murder by intention or accident lands you in the lockup. Same as killing an animal. Taking a life -- it is what it is.WestSideAzn

So what's your point. People should be locked up for eating meat?

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#91 HorseVillain
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No way, im way too skinny as it is let alone give up meat. :Prealistic44

That doesn't even make sense.

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#92 F1_2004
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Hardly irrelevant. Animals couldn't care less whether we intended to mangle them underneath a tractor.HorseVillain

Which is irrelevant as it's unintentional. Going by your logic it'd be perfectly fine to molotov a Zoo because you unknowingly, unintentionally ran over a mouse.

So you're telling me that the argument that vegans make against meat eaters is, "It's OK to kill animals, as long as you didn't mean to do it"? Next you'll have me believe that the police are OK with people killing other people so long as they didn't intend to do it. lol.
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#93 realistic44
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[QUOTE="realistic44"]No way, im way too skinny as it is let alone give up meat. :PHorseVillain

That doesn't even make sense.

eh scratch what i said im trying to do some mis work for college, take care of my pet and talk on here at the same time.

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#94 HorseVillain
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So you're telling me that the argument that vegans make against meat eaters is, "It's OK to kill animals, as long as you didn't mean to do it"?F1_2004

No.

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#95 MrGeezer
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Do you love cereal and hate meat? Become a vegan today! Join the revolution! :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzc9rMzTv2w

But seriously, slaughtering animals is not right. Have you seen videos on what they do to animals? It's disgusting and cruel. Animal testing isn't right either. Animals also have hearts. They're not things you can just mess around with. I hate how people treat animals like they're some piece of trash..
Cereal ftw.
:)

XEscapeTheFateX

I don't worry too much about animal suffering. It's really all just a sliding scale of what we're willing to tolerate.

Ask any meat eater if they like animals being tortured, and they'll say no. They just don't care enough to research the slaughter practices on farms from which their chicken nuggets originated.

Now, some people are against animal abuse, and go vegan. But how many of them bother to research whether or not the bread that they eat came from grain that was mass-harvested by machines rather than hand-picked? If you eat vegan grain products that were harvested using the kinds of machinery that tends to kill and maim any animals that get in the way, then you could go one step better and grow your own grain, and then handpick it.

Of course, no one wants animals to get tortured. But there's a point at which most consumers stop caring (be they carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores). You can always go one better when it comes to being "humane", it's just that most people go as far as they're willing to go, and then stay right at that comfort level.

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#96 Murj
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Cereal is great for mornings. But I love my meaty meat.

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#97 WestSideAzn
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[QUOTE="WestSideAzn"]When we accidentally kill another human being by way of vehicular manslaughter, we still get in trouble for it. No matter what way you put it, murder by intention or accident lands you in the lockup. Same as killing an animal. Taking a life -- it is what it is.HorseVillain

So what's your point. People should be locked up for eating meat?

No, I'm saying that the point he made about killing innocent animals while harvesting grains is irrelevant to this thread....
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#98 HorseVillain
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No, I'm saying that the point he made about killing innocent animals while harvesting grains is irrelevant to this thread.... WestSideAzn

Are you trying to prove your loyalty to me.

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#99 bobaban
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No I enjoy the taste of meat.
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#100 CoolSkAGuy
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I absolutely love Cereal but I also enjoy a big fatty piece of meat on my plate that's raw and bloody as well.