Do you pay Federal Income Tax?

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#1 Total-KO
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I don't live in the United States but I just found out that Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional and there is no law which says you must pay it.

So, do you pay Federal Income Tax?

If you do... DON'T!!!

Watch this video if you don't believe me!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=497251819335380093

Do not pay Federal Income Tax!

No law can make you libel to pay for it!

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#2 mig_killer2
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how is federal income tax unconstitutional?

and why are you pushing that ****ing movie?

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#3 DeeJayInphinity
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Lol this again. Listen, child, taxes are necessary for the maintenance of this country.
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Lol this again. Listen, child, taxes are necessary for the maintenance of this country.DeeJayInphinity
nuh uh!!! the government has magic!!!
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#5 wemhim
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how is federal income tax unconstitutional?mig_killer2
Income tax is only supposed to be for corporate income. It has no relations to civilians. However, the IRS requires it anyways, but people aren't truly required to pay income tax.
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#6 videogamer456
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I don't...my parents do, however. I still live with them, but I will pay it, eventually.
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#7 wemhim
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Lol this again. Listen, child, taxes are necessary for the maintenance of this country.DeeJayInphinity
Yes, and there are other ways too. Another thing, maybe they should make it an official law first, there's nothing wrong with it, but the fact that it's not truly required....
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#8 Total-KO
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So you would all be happy to give over 10 to 35% of your wages that you earn even if you don't have to?
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]how is federal income tax unconstitutional?wemhim
Income tax is only supposed to be for corporate income. It has no relations to civilians. However, the IRS requires it anyways, but people aren't truly required to pay income tax.

but how is the government supposed to support itself? also, if you dont pay your taxes, the IRS doesn't need a court order to take your stuff
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#10 g-unit248
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of course i do, you go to jail if you dont.... joke thread???...
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#11 Total-KO
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]how is federal income tax unconstitutional?mig_killer2
Income tax is only supposed to be for corporate income. It has no relations to civilians. However, the IRS requires it anyways, but people aren't truly required to pay income tax.

but how is the government supposed to support itself? also, if you dont pay your taxes, the IRS doesn't need a court order to take your stuff

Federal Income tax is not the only tax you know. :|

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#12 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]how is federal income tax unconstitutional?mig_killer2
Income tax is only supposed to be for corporate income. It has no relations to civilians. However, the IRS requires it anyways, but people aren't truly required to pay income tax.

but how is the government supposed to support itself? also, if you dont pay your taxes, the IRS doesn't need a court order to take your stuff

I'm all for income tax. But they haven't actually ratified it yet. I mean, if all the states did, or the majority, that'd be great. But as of now, it's like extortion.
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#13 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Lol this again. Listen, child, taxes are necessary for the maintenance of this country.wemhim
Yes, and there are other ways too. Another thing, maybe they should make it an official law first, there's nothing wrong with it, but the fact that it's not truly required....

What other ways.. donations? You do realize that only like 5 people in the U.S. would pay taxes if it wasn't required, right?

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#14 Total-KO
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of course i do, you go to jail if you dont.... joke thread???...g-unit248

You can't do to jail if you don't pay Federal Income tax. Show me the law which says that. This is not a joke thread. Read the first post and watch the video FFS.

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#15 mig_killer2
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the federal reserve isn't part of some conspiracy. you know that 95% of its net earnings have gone into the US treasury right?
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Lol this again. Listen, child, taxes are necessary for the maintenance of this country.DeeJayInphinity

Yes, and there are other ways too. Another thing, maybe they should make it an official law first, there's nothing wrong with it, but the fact that it's not truly required....

What other ways.. donations? You do realize that only like 5 people in the U.S. would pay taxes if it wasn't required, right?

Sales tax, cigarette tax, gambling tax, vehicle taxing, etc. etc. It's not like income tax is the only way people pay taxes. If you go to the store and buy a banana, you'd pay some tax. Then there's corporate income tax, which IS constitutional.
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#17 duxup
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Do you pay it?

No law can make you libel to pay for it!

Total-KO

What about the people in jail for not paying it? I'm sure they're comforted by that google video...

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#18 wemhim
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the federal reserve isn't part of some conspiracy. you know that 95% of its net earnings have gone into the US treasury right?mig_killer2
That's great and all, but I mean, why not actually make the law....A law? It's a fine concept, if they actually make it official.
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#19 Total-KO
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the federal reserve isn't part of some conspiracy. you know that 95% of its net earnings have gone into the US treasury right?mig_killer2

What's that supposed to mean?

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#20 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Lol this again. Listen, child, taxes are necessary for the maintenance of this country.wemhim

Yes, and there are other ways too. Another thing, maybe they should make it an official law first, there's nothing wrong with it, but the fact that it's not truly required....

What other ways.. donations? You do realize that only like 5 people in the U.S. would pay taxes if it wasn't required, right?

Sales tax, cigarette tax, gambling tax, vehicle taxing, etc. etc. It's not like income tax is the only way people pay taxes. If you go to the store and buy a banana, you'd pay some tax. Then there's corporate income tax, which IS constitutional.

Right.. You want to increase the state taxes to make up for the federal income taxes?

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#21 Total-KO
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Do you pay it?

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]

No law can make you libel to pay for it!

duxup

What about the people in jail for not paying it? I'm sure they're comforted by that google video...

I'm not American, I'm British and yes, we actually have a law for Income Tax.

But if there were people going to jail for not paying it, then surely they would be in prison illegally? They haven't committed a crime.

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#22 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]the federal reserve isn't part of some conspiracy. you know that 95% of its net earnings have gone into the US treasury right?Total-KO

What's that supposed to mean?

the zeitgeist movie is trying to say that all our federal tax dollars are going into the pockets of international bankers
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#23 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

Do you pay it?

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]

No law can make you libel to pay for it!

Total-KO

What about the people in jail for not paying it? I'm sure they're comforted by that google video...

I'm not American, I'm British and yes, we actually have a law for Income Tax.

But if there were people going to jail for not paying it, then surely they would be in prison illegally? They haven't committed a crime.

So you're saying you want a law to be passed before you can accept federal income taxes?

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So I'm guessing you aren't familiar with the consitution? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

The government has the ability to tax by any means it wants.

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#25 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]Lol this again. Listen, child, taxes are necessary for the maintenance of this country.DeeJayInphinity

Yes, and there are other ways too. Another thing, maybe they should make it an official law first, there's nothing wrong with it, but the fact that it's not truly required....

What other ways.. donations? You do realize that only like 5 people in the U.S. would pay taxes if it wasn't required, right?

Sales tax, cigarette tax, gambling tax, vehicle taxing, etc. etc. It's not like income tax is the only way people pay taxes. If you go to the store and buy a banana, you'd pay some tax. Then there's corporate income tax, which IS constitutional.

Right.. You want to increase the state taxes to make up for the federal income taxes?

No, I just want them to actually make it an official law, I don't see why not.
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[QUOTE="Total-KO"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]the federal reserve isn't part of some conspiracy. you know that 95% of its net earnings have gone into the US treasury right?mig_killer2

What's that supposed to mean?

the zeitgeist movie is trying to say that all our federal tax dollars are going into the pockets of international bankers

Well, since the Federal Reserve is a Quasi-Private company it pretty much is.

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#27 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Total-KO"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]the federal reserve isn't part of some conspiracy. you know that 95% of its net earnings have gone into the US treasury right?Total-KO

What's that supposed to mean?

the zeitgeist movie is trying to say that all our federal tax dollars are going into the pockets of international bankers

Well, since the Federal Reserve is a Quasi-Private company it pretty much is.

did you read my first post?
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#28 Total-KO
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If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

Do you pay it?

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]

No law can make you libel to pay for it!

Total-KO

What about the people in jail for not paying it? I'm sure they're comforted by that google video...

I'm not American, I'm British and yes, we actually have a law for Income Tax.

But if there were people going to jail for not paying it, then surely they would be in prison illegally? They haven't committed a crime.

If there "were" people going to jail? Do you know anything about this topic beyond that video?

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#30 DeeJayInphinity
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No, I just want them to actually make it an official law, I don't see why not.
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They're already required so just pay them.

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[QUOTE="g-unit248"]of course i do, you go to jail if you dont.... joke thread???...Total-KO

You can't do to jail if you don't pay Federal Income tax. Show me the law which says that. This is not a joke thread. Read the first post and watch the video FFS.

sorry, no videos, im at work, anyway, its called tax evasion and yes you can do to jail example here, the first survivor winner did not pay taxes on his winnings aka income and was thrown in jail, the only income that is tax free in the united states are inheritance's

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If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.Total-KO

Why would it be unconstitutional?

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#33 mig_killer2
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[QUOTE="Total-KO"]

[QUOTE="g-unit248"]of course i do, you go to jail if you dont.... joke thread???...g-unit248

You can't do to jail if you don't pay Federal Income tax. Show me the law which says that. This is not a joke thread. Read the first post and watch the video FFS.

sorry, no videos, im at work, anyway, its called tax evasion and yes you can do to jail example here, the first survivor winner did not pay taxes on his winnings aka income and was thrown in jail, the only income that is tax free in the united states are inheritance's

isn't there a 55% estate tax?
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#34 wemhim
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[QUOTE="wemhim"]

No, I just want them to actually make it an official law, I don't see why not.
DeeJayInphinity

They're already required so just pay them.

Well of course I wouldn't not pay it. But yeah, I guess. I just wish they would officially ratify it... Oh well.
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#35 Total-KO
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[QUOTE="Total-KO"]If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.DeeJayInphinity

Why would it be unconstitutional?

The 16th Amendment is unconstitutional.

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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.Total-KO

Why would it be unconstitutional?

The 16th Amendment is unconstitutional.

Is this a joke?
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#38 DeeJayInphinity
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.Total-KO

Why would it be unconstitutional?

The 16th Amendment is unconstitutional.

It's necessary for them to charge taxes if they want to maintain this country. I think it's unconstitutional to not want to contribute to the people that keep your country up and running.

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i dont pay because im Native.
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.Total-KO

Why would it be unconstitutional?

The 16th Amendment is unconstitutional.

ROFL

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[QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.DeeJayInphinity

Why would it be unconstitutional?

The 16th Amendment is unconstitutional.

It's necessary for them to charge taxes if they want to maintain this country. I think it's unconstitutional to not want to contribute to the people that keep your country up and running.

So what you're saying is tax is necessary to run a country. The fact that you think I don't realise that,is in itself, hilarious. You're so naive. The 16th Amendment was never fully completely and officially ratified. In short, the law or any law which says that you must pay Federal Income Tax was never passed.

There is more than one tax in existnce in the US

Also, point me to the line which says that 'it's unconstitutional to not want to contribute to the people that keep your country up and running.'

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[QUOTE="Total-KO"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]

[QUOTE="Total-KO"]If they made a law it would be cool, but any law made would be unconstitutional.NightStalkerBX

Why would it be unconstitutional?

The 16th Amendment is unconstitutional.

ROFL

you dont realize it, but the constitution is unconstitutional because under the british constitution, america is part of britain:o