Which one? I prefer Star Wars by a long shot but i still love Star Trek. You?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]i think i'll say star trek this time :)spazzx625Are you going to change every few weeks when a new one of these pops up?:) I'm sticking with Star Wars... yup Gotta keep it real.
I'm going to say Star Wars, but I don't know why they always get compared to each other. It's debatable that the Star Wars movies are even sci-fi.
I don't think that's debatable at all.I'm going to say Star Wars, but I don't know why they always get compared to each other. It's debatable that the Star Wars movies are even sci-fi.
Forever_Changes
Could you make your arguement for that please?
[QUOTE="Forever_Changes"] It's debatable that the Star Wars movies are even sci-fi.Razor-LazorHow is that debatable? :|
The Force is mystical, magical fantasy. There's nothing science fictiony about it. Of course, they tried introducing a sci-fi take on it in Ep I with the meta-whatevers in the bloodstream... but that explanation was roundly rejected by Star Dorks everywhere.
How is that debatable? :|[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"][QUOTE="Forever_Changes"] It's debatable that the Star Wars movies are even sci-fi.Oleg_Huzwog
The Force is mystical, magical fantasy. There's nothing science fictiony about it. Of course, they tried introducing a sci-fi take on it in Ep I with the meta-whatevers in the bloodstream... but that explanation was roundly rejected by Star Dorks everywhere.
but what about space ships? and the magic could be explained with alternate universe. I mean, they have empaths, and mental transfer and such in Star Trek. That's all absurd. :o[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"] How is that debatable? :|Jandurin
The Force is mystical, magical fantasy. There's nothing science fictiony about it. Of course, they tried introducing a sci-fi take on it in Ep I with the meta-whatevers in the bloodstream... but that explanation was roundly rejected by Star Dorks everywhere.
but what about space ships? and the magic could be explained with alternate universe. I mean, they have empaths, and mental transfer and such in Star Trek. That's all absurd. :o it wasn't mystical like the force was in the first trilogy though. also ST actually deals with the science of things in it's stories. For SW, space and the science was just a setting. if it's scifi it's in the space opera subgenre.[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"] How is that debatable? :|Jandurin
The Force is mystical, magical fantasy. There's nothing science fictiony about it. Of course, they tried introducing a sci-fi take on it in Ep I with the meta-whatevers in the bloodstream... but that explanation was roundly rejected by Star Dorks everywhere.
but what about space ships?and the magic could be explained with alternate universe.
I mean, they have empaths, and mental transfer and such in Star Trek. That's all absurd. :o
Empaths and mental transfers are very light on the sci- and very heavy on the -fi, but that still makes them sci-fi. The Force has no sci- at all. It's pure -fi.
The Force is mystical, magical fantasy. There's nothing science fictiony about it. Of course, they tried introducing a sci-fi take on it in Ep I with the meta-whatevers in the bloodstream... but that explanation was roundly rejected by Star Dorks everywhere.I get that, it was a spiritual concept to begin with but the setting in which it is presented is definitely science fiction. It would be inaccurate and misleading to call the original trilogy fantasy.Oleg_Huzwog
As for midi-chlorians, eat a *&*& George Lucas.
I don't think that's debatable at all.[QUOTE="Forever_Changes"]
I'm going to say Star Wars, but I don't know why they always get compared to each other. It's debatable that the Star Wars movies are even sci-fi.
Second_Rook
Could you make your arguement for that please?
Well first of all, I think people need to learn what science fiction actually is (not referring to anyone here btw, just speaking generally :P ) Space and technology don't necessarily make something sci-fi. Science Fiction is generally preoccupied with scientific fact or possibilities - which Star Wars isn't. Star Wars is basically fantasy in a space setting. A lot of Star Wars fans consider the movies fantasy movies. I mean the beginiing: "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." is pretty indictaive of a fantasy setting. And, come on, Queens, Knights, Emperors, Lords? Good vs Evil? Replace the lightsabers with swords and you have the basic elements for any fantasy story. It could easily be set in Middle Earth.;) In fact, George Lucas himself said it definitely wasn't sci-fi and has repeatedly called them fantasy films.
Although I'd argue there are elements of both sci-fi and fantasy (plus a wealth of other influences), but like I said - it's debatable.
I always thought of it as an exaggeration of the use of inner powers. Chi and all that.Empaths and mental transfers are very light on the sci- and very heavy on the -fi, but that still makes them sci-fi. The Force has no sci- at all. It's pure -fi.
Oleg_Huzwog
Which one? I prefer Star Wars by a long shot but i still love Star Trek. You?
talonkarrde07
Same here.
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