Do you support the 2nd ammendment and are you a gun owner?

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#1 kingyotoX
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Just curious.
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No, ban guns they are dangerous
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#3 kingyotoX
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No, ban guns they are dangerousalexmurray

lol you sound so silly.

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I don't own a gun, don't support the 2nd amendment.
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yes and yes
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I do not own a gun, but I support the 2nd amendment.

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No, ban guns they are dangerousalexmurray

Care to explain why?

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No amount of gun legislation can keep illegal guns out of criminals hands. I say, let the American people use .50BMG Barret sniper rifles and fully automatic Browning M2 machine guns for home-defence. People kill people, guns are just one of the many tools people use to do it. Should we ban power tools, kitchen knives and sporks as well?
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerouskingyotoX

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

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#11 halfirishhomer
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Yes I'm sure the criminals(who break the law every day) would abide by a law that says they can't own guns. :P
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#12 Nerkcon
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What some people don't understand is that we will only make it so WE can't get guns. Criminals are Criminals because they break the law. They will still have their guns if guns become illegal. http://www.westernslopelp.org/gun_free_zone.jpg
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#13 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerousalexmurray

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

It was the persons stupidity for not handling a firearm properly. Why get angry at guns, when the people didn't know how to handle them safely?
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#14 kingyotoX
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerousalexmurray

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

I still don't see your point. It's no fault of the guns, it's the fault of the owner or the parent. My dad has always owned guns, I never shot myself, because he taught me better. Just becuase some people are irresponsib;e it's no reason to take away thae rights of others.

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Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :D
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Yes I'm sure the criminals(who break the law every day) would abide by a law that says they can't own guns. :Phalfirishhomer

It would be alot easier for police to arrest criminals if guns are illegal, they see a gun and your arrested easy.

Sure Criminals can get guns but you cant crack down on it if the general population own firearms

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No amount of gun legislation can keep illegal guns out of criminals hands. I say, let the American people use .50BMG Barret sniper rifles and fully automatic Browning M2 machine guns for home-defence. People kill people, guns are just one of the many tools people use to do it. Should we ban power tools, kitchen knives and sporks as well?foxhound_fox


Exactly my views on the subject, that disrespect for the law that criminals exhibit wouldn't be countered by gun-control laws. If people are afraid of accidents regarding children, that's due to irresponsible parents and not an issue that should be blamed on guns. Guns are just tools, nothing more.
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#18 Nerkcon
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http://www.whsv.com/westvirginiaap/headlines/27659134.html 13,000 people! at least 1,000 them had to be kids. Let's ban alcohol!
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#19 alexmurray
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerouskingyotoX

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

I still don't see your point. It's no fault of the guns, it's the fault of the owner or the parent. My dad has always owned guns, I never shot myself, because he taught me better. Just becuase some people are irresponsib;e it's no reason to take away thae rights of others.

yea but those deaths wouldn't have happened if there where no guns right :roll:

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#20 kingyotoX
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Btw i'm starting a new union for gun owners and supporters of the second ammendment if anyone would like to co found it. ( this really isn't why I created the thread)
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerousalexmurray

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

I still don't see your point. It's no fault of the guns, it's the fault of the owner or the parent. My dad has always owned guns, I never shot myself, because he taught me better. Just becuase some people are irresponsib;e it's no reason to take away thae rights of others.

yea but those deaths wouldn't have happened if there where no guns right :roll:

It also wouldn't of happened if the person handled the firearm safely:|
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#22 kingyotoX
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerousalexmurray

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

I still don't see your point. It's no fault of the guns, it's the fault of the owner or the parent. My dad has always owned guns, I never shot myself, because he taught me better. Just becuase some people are irresponsib;e it's no reason to take away thae rights of others.

yea but those deaths wouldn't have happened if there where no guns right :roll:

How about the people who would have dies if they didn't have a gun to protect themselves? how about people who use guns to hunt for food?

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#23 kingyotoX
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I would like to also add that many more people die every year in car crahes. Should cars be banned as well?
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Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :DDisPimpin

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Yes, so they can defend themselves with some sicko tries to shoot and rape someone!
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

criminals do. why shouln't well informed and properly trained law abiding citizens?

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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

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#28 alexmurray
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="kingyotoX"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerouskingyotoX

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

I still don't see your point. It's no fault of the guns, it's the fault of the owner or the parent. My dad has always owned guns, I never shot myself, because he taught me better. Just becuase some people are irresponsib;e it's no reason to take away thae rights of others.

yea but those deaths wouldn't have happened if there where no guns right :roll:

How about the people who would have dies if they didn't have a gun to protect themselves? how about people who use guns to hunt for food?

People who hunt for food need to get into the 21st century America

Whats the chance of somebody wanting to kill you in the middle of the road :lol:, if they have a gun chances are they just want to steal something and don't want to kill you

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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Djfcundiff

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

My dad is a cop and they cannot be watching over everyone all the time.

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#31 InterpolWilco
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Not a gun owner, will never own a gun.

THAT BEING SAID, I would never deny someone the right to protect themselves. So yes, I support the Second Amendment.

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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :DkingyotoX

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

criminals do. why shouln't well informed and properly trained law abiding citizens?

Because criminals have no reason to kill you, they use a gun as a intimidation weapon, and if he has a gun out chances are you cant draw you gun and shoot him before he shoots you

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

I'm pretty sure I can pull out a gun faster than I can call the police and have them drive to me.

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[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Djfcundiff

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

My dad is a cop and they cannot be watching over everyone all the time.

you still dont need guns,

Theres something called a phone with a 9 and a 1 button on it

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

Police can't be around trouble all the time at every waking minute. Sure, it's not common for someone to just walk into a house and start killing people who live there, but it does happen. And no they wouldn't just steal from you, if thy didn't kill you you could call for help. In fact, they usually kill you first so you don't scream as they rob you.
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[QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerousalexmurray

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

You should pull up the fatality rate for cars. Let's ban those first since they're so much more dangerous.
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :DVanHelsingBoA64

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

I'm pretty sure I can pull out a gun faster than I can call the police and have them drive to me.

well your dead, because he has his gun drawn and he shot you when you reached for your gun, sorry he only wanted your wallet

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#38 alexmurray
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="kingyotoX"]

[QUOTE="alexmurray"]No, ban guns they are dangerousbr0kenrabbit

lol you sound so silly.

did you know that 174 children died of accidental gun fire in the US in 2000

http://www.childdeathreview.org/causesAF.htm

2002 214 accedental deaths

https://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/guns.htm

overall statistics by the government

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

You should pull up the fatality rate for cars. Let's ban those first since they're so much more dangerous.

cars aren't weapons

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

Yes becuse when someone breaks in to your house the police appear immediatley. :roll: police can't alwayys be there, I refuse to be a victim, but I guess that's the democrat idea, everyone is a victim and can't do anything for themselves, we need to steal from the evil rich people and give to the poor victims, right?

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

My dad is a cop and they cannot be watching over everyone all the time.

you still dont need guns,

Theres something called a phone with a 9 and a 1 button on it

So while I get robbed or someone gets raped or someone is threaten people with a gun you expect me to call police if I have a gun and can try and defuse the situation? It could take up to 10 minutes for a unit to even get to some people. By that time I could already try and have a handle on the situation.

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#41 VanHelsingBoA64
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you still dont need guns,

Theres something called a phone with a 9 and a 1 button on it

alexmurray

and if he has a gun out chances are you cant draw you gun and shoot him before he shoots you

alexmurray

That makes no sense.

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You really think criminals don't use their guns? And what about gangs? They will still have guns.
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#43 VanHelsingBoA64
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well your dead, because he has his gun drawn and he shot you when you reached for your gun, sorry he only wanted your wallet

alexmurray

What if I was reaching for my cell phone?

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

My dad is a cop and they cannot be watching over everyone all the time.

you still dont need guns,

Theres something called a phone with a 9 and a 1 button on it

Didn't help me when my apartment got broken into by armed men. Know what did? A .39
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#45 kingyotoX
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Btw i'm starting a new union for gun owners and supporters of the second ammendment if anyone would like to co found it. ( this really isn't why I created the thread)
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#46 alexmurray
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :DNerkcon

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

Police can't be around trouble all the time at every waking minute. Sure, it's not common for someone to just walk into a house and start killing people who live there, but it does happen. And no they wouldn't just steal from you, if thy didn't kill you you could call for help. In fact, they usually kill you first so you don't scream as they rob you.

most likely he wont kill you because now hes in prison for life or is sentenced the death penalty instead of going to jail for 20 years, and a scream is louder than a gun shot???

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#47 jfcundiff
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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dalexmurray

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

Police can't be around trouble all the time at every waking minute. Sure, it's not common for someone to just walk into a house and start killing people who live there, but it does happen. And no they wouldn't just steal from you, if thy didn't kill you you could call for help. In fact, they usually kill you first so you don't scream as they rob you.

most likely he wont kill you because now hes in prison for life or is sentenced the death penalty instead of going to jail for 20 years, and a scream is louder than a gun shot???

Most criminals do not care about killing because they have nothing left to lose.

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#48 halfirishhomer
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If you want to risk your life and the lives of your family by dialing 911 and hoping a cop is right outside your house, then you go ahead. But I refuse to.
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#49 alexmurray
Member since 2005 • 2665 Posts
[QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"][QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Everybody carries guns in the South. Just finished up my concealed carry class a few weeks ago. 2nd ammendment FTW!!!!!!! :Dbr0kenrabbit

Now thats dangerous, lets have civilians walk around with concealed weapons

Are you paranoid about guns or something? Nothing wrong with someone trying to protect themselves, their belongings, and their families.

Yea we didn't invent police for anything did we

My dad is a cop and they cannot be watching over everyone all the time.

you still dont need guns,

Theres something called a phone with a 9 and a 1 button on it

Didn't help me when my apartment got broken into by armed men. Know what did? A .39

Men, so there was more than one???

Just give them what they want, they dont want to kill you :roll:

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#50 Saturos3091
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Because criminals have no reason to kill you, they use a gun as a intimidation weapon, and if he has a gun out chances are you cant draw you gun and shoot him before he shoots you

alexmurray


You're thinking in terms of certain crimes. I'm sure most people would say that an ordinary civilian boarding a bus wouldn't pull out a knife and decapitate someone and then feed on his bleeding neck for no reason either, but it happens.

In thievery cases, usually someone is sent to get money/valuables while the thief holds the family hostage at gunpoint. Of course his intent isn't to kill them, but should the person sent to get the valuables just hand them over and sit on it? If he has a gun, he may end up getting that and taking it to the thief in self/familial defense. You can't rely on the cops in a situation like that, they're slow and if you were to call afterwards they would either lose trace of the man who robbed you, or they wouldn't be able to stop him from selling off/buying with what he stole.

It applies to many situations, and one of the first steps in creating a totalitarian government is to take away the populace's weapons.