Do you think George Bush deserved all the abuse?

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#1 Devour2Survive
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There were the movies, the late night shows, the news, cartoons...basically everything in the media.
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#2 BurtSquirt
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Yes, and more.
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#3 observer77
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yes he deserved it he screwed up big not a little screw up but big an dnot just once but many times he deserved what came to him in the end and so did what staff got hit with it to. now that he is gone I feel that I will miss the jokes he gave comedy alot to work with oh well more laughs will come.
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#4 MrGeezer
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Yeah, he deserved it. Even if you think that he didn't suck as a president, this **** comes with the job. If he wasn't prepared and willing to become a laughing stock, then he never should have applied for the job.

And the same applies for Obama. 5 or 10 years from now, if and when Obama becomes a joke, I'll be saying the same thing. No one put a gun to his head and made him run for president. You either except that that kind of "abuse" will happen, or you just plain don't run for freaking president.

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#5 fidosim
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It's natural for a politician to be made fun of in late night shows and comedies, but it eventually got to the point where everything even remotely associated with Bush was automatically maligned.
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#6 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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Nope. Sure, he made some mistakes, but I think that the 'abuse' was rather excessive.
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#7 PBSnipes
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No. Clearly he wasn't the man for the job, but last time I checked the US wasn't a dictatorship. Hell even if it was, a leader is only as good as the people he/she's surrounded by.
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#8 gobo212
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Yes. He took away fundamental civil liberties and started an unjust war/occupation.
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#9 funsohng
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the position of president exist as a target of public's anger
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#10 cyberdarkkid
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Yeah, he deserved it. Even if you think that he didn't suck as a president, this **** comes with the job. If he wasn't prepared and willing to become a laughing stock, then he never should have applied for the job.

And the same applies for Obama. 5 or 10 years from now, if and when Obama becomes a joke, I'll be saying the same thing. No one put a gun to his head and made him run for president. You either except that that kind of "abuse" will happen, or you just plain don't run for freaking president.

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Well Bush isn't complaining about it. TC is.
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#11 BurtSquirt
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He was just a redneck from Texas that didn't even care to understand foreign policy, he just knew he had to oppress anything that appeared "un-American" in his narrow eyes. 9-11 only made his hate and lack of care for understanding worse. Oil for the economy was his other motivation. Dog bless the (formerly) almighty dollar!
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#12 remmbermytitans
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MSNBC is STILL taking shots at him. Olbermann has "Bushed", Maddow has "Scrub. Rinse. Repeat." He did not deserve all the abuse, and it was "cool" to hate Bush. And no matter who you asked, whenever you asked WHY they hated him, they could never go beyond, he started a war in Iraq.
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#13 fidosim
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MSNBC is STILL taking shots at him. Olbermann has "Bushed", Maddow has "Scrub. Rinse. Repeat." He did not deserve all the abuse, and it was "cool" to hate Bush. And no matter who you asked, whenever you asked WHY they hated him, they could never go beyond, he started a war in Iraq. remmbermytitans
I haven't taken MSNBC seriously since Obama's convention speech coverage. "This is how Henry won at Agincourt! This is how Alexander the Great won!" :lol:
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#15 Serraph105
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Did he deserve the abuse? Well considering the state of the economy, the unjust war in Iraq, *pauses rant and looks at the map on the wall and sees New Orleans* I'm thinking maybe more than just a little.
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#16 Scott_Malkinson
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If anything, George Bush deserved more abuse. Also, he should have gotten hit by those shoes!
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#17 freshgman
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i wouldnt call it abuse. more like criticisms
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#18 aliblabla2007
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I really pity the guy. Sure, some of the bushism is funny, but they guy must feel like crap.

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#19 Kritical_Strike
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Not really, he was just a scapegoat for all the bad **** that happened to the US since the early 00's. A lot was his fault, however.
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#20 OrkHammer007
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Bush hasn't been abused any more than Clinton did (and still does).

Did he deserve it? Just as much as Clinton did.

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#21 Scott_Malkinson
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I really pity the guy. Sure, some of the bushism is funny, but they guy must feel like crap.

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He should, considering that's the same condition he left his country in.
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#24 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]Did he deserve the abuse? Well considering the state of the economy, the unjust war in Iraq, *pauses rant and looks at the map on the wall and sees New Orleans* I'm thinking maybe more than just a little.MoonMarvel
See? Blame the ebil repubbycon for everything and ignore the crap the democrats did. Obviously NO was all Bushys fault and the dem gov and mayor deserve no heat....Wait a second, NO was mostly their fault. Of course the economy wasn't his fault either, he didn't force those companies to do anything, but Clinton sure did allow for it. And how is Iraq unjust? Back up your comments with facts! As I said before, he doesn't and only gets it from bitter liberals mad they lost in 2000 and unfairly blame him for stuff that wasn't his fault!

I expect the people America put in place to run the country to step up and take charge and make things right. Especially when Katrina hit and Bush was too busy on vacation to help out. I dont call them evil I think lazy and inept are much more accurate titles

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#25 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Scott_Malkinson"]If anything, George Bush deserved more abuse. Also, he should have gotten hit by those shoes!MoonMarvel
Why? Give reason backing your hatred or its unjust.

well the shoe thing would be just plain karma at work
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#28 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

See? Blame the ebil repubbycon for everything and ignore the crap the democrats did. Obviously NO was all Bushys fault and the dem gov and mayor deserve no heat....Wait a second, NO was mostly their fault. Of course the economy wasn't his fault either, he didn't force those companies to do anything, but Clinton sure did allow for it. And how is Iraq unjust? Back up your comments with facts! As I said before, he doesn't and only gets it from bitter liberals mad they lost in 2000 and unfairly blame him for stuff that wasn't his fault!MoonMarvel

I expect the people America put in place to run the country to step up and take charge and make things right. Especially when Katrina hit and Bush was too busy on vacation to help out. I dont call them evil I think lazy and inept are much more accurate titles

Then you expect too much. And the dems were in charge as well.

expecting the people to do their jobs is too much?
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#30 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] Why? Give reason backing your hatred or its unjust.MoonMarvel
well the shoe thing would be just plain karma at work

For what? Not being a democrat?

look I dont really careabout political parties I just care about doing a good job and Bush obviously didnt do that. To argue that he was a great president is just foolish.
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#31 nintendofreak_2
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Maybe not to the extent that he got. He certainly had everything working against him in his 8 years with all of the disasters and 911.
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#32 HybridPhoenix
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Out of everything, his actions to protect new orleans is what really bothers me.
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#33 thepwninator
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There have been many, many things that have happened in his tenure in office, and much of it was largely uncaused by him and, in many cases, wasn't even worsened by him. However, the man is like velcro. Everything, as long as it is ugly and hooked, sticks to him. Everything smooth and pretty, however, does not.

As a result, I think that he did not deserve all of the hate he has gotten.

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#34 GodofBigMacs
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He made radical decisions... and they all failed...
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#35 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] Then you expect too much. And the dems were in charge as well.MoonMarvel
expecting the people to do their jobs is too much?

Since when is it governments job to fix all of americas problems? Ever thought you expect too much from the government? What ever happened to personal responsibility?

I do accept personal responsibility when I screw up however I dont decide when the country goes to war on false pretenses. I wouldnt decide to do nothing if I had the power to change the way a Hurricane evac is going when I see it going poorly and I certainly would have set rules as to what people could do with the bailout money because the people in charge proved themselves unable to keep things going themselves. I would have made teams of people who could handle these kinds of things.
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#37 MaddenBowler10
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Nope. Sure, he made some mistakes, but I think that the 'abuse' was rather excessive.t3hrubikscube
yep, this, everyone who thinks otherwise is just ignorant.
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#39 -Sun_Tzu-
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I don't think he deserves all the blame he receives, but the man was definitely a mediocre and at sometimes incompetent president. Now with that said, he still did some good during his presidency. He handled the immediate aftermath of 9/11 astonishingly well and did a great job of stepping up as a leader when one was most needed and I applaud the amount of effort he had put into helping the people of Africa.
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#40 links136
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] For what? Not being a democrat? MoonMarvel
look I dont really careabout political parties I just care about doing a good job and Bush obviously didnt do that. To argue that he was a great president is just foolish.

If you can't defend your views with anything and decide to take peoples comments out of context and mildy bait them maybe you should just admit you were wrong about Bush and move on? Right now you haven't given me anything that would indicate that your hatred is founded in actual facts.

i'd say in his decision of to into Iraq based on imaginary WMD's, Guantanamo bay, gas prices, his tax cuts and worst of all, his dictatorship.

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#42 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] Since when is it governments job to fix all of americas problems? Ever thought you expect too much from the government? What ever happened to personal responsibility?MoonMarvel

I do accept personal responsibility when I screw up however I dont decide when the country goes to war on false pretenses. I wouldnt decide to do nothing if I had the power to change the way a Hurricane evac is going when I see it going poorly and I certainly would have set rules as to what people could do with the bailout money because the people in charge proved themselves unable to keep things going themselves. I would have made teams of people who could handle these kinds of things.

1. Because mulitple nations all telling you the same thing is soooo bad. I dont even know if your talking about me listening to the media on this or Nations telling Bush what to do either way I just scratched my head at this.

2. Because the GOV refusing to ask for help and years before not using the money given to her to fix the levees deserves no heat, because the Mayor not doing proper Evac deserves no heat. And how much power does Bush even have over FEMA? I dont know about actual power but my guess is if he decided to get involved FEMA wouldnt have simply flipped him the bird and went about as usual.

3. So your blaming him for money he didn't control? I wonder whos job that was. I also wonder why the Dems get no heat over it. But its also nice you focus on one thing and ignore what caused this in the first place, which a lot happened before he was in office. Look farther than 2000. Once again since he controlled it at one point my guess is making a few rules before he gave it wouldnt have been too hard for him to get his way sure it would have been overstepping bounderies but since he had been doing so much of that anyways I dont see why he wouldnt have stopped there of all places.

I have a question for you would you have Bush and his team run the country yet again?

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#43 mechwarrior_bob
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All politicans need some abuse but it did get a little excessive....I mean he's outta office and they were still taking shots...too many people think the president has a magical wand in his hand and can change whatever he wants whenever...The Economy's bad for a number of reasons what Bush wasn't even 1%...Last time I checked the president can't control hurricanes nor take control of FEMA you want fix? how about a less Beuracratic Government? I don't exactly understand what's wrong about the War in Iraq ...I mean unjust? saving peoples lifes is...unjust? Ask the Kurds how they feel about having Saddam removed I don't know if they'll partake in bush bashing =l

And no I'm not spell checking if you try to point out my ignorance I just don't feel like working that hard at this debate so...away with you!

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#44 TenP
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I thought of it as a little excessive, yes.

Not that he didn't deserve it.

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#45 links136
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[QUOTE="links136"]

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] If you can't defend your views with anything and decide to take peoples comments out of context and mildy bait them maybe you should just admit you were wrong about Bush and move on? Right now you haven't given me anything that would indicate that your hatred is founded in actual facts.MoonMarvel

i'd say in his decision of to into Iraq based on imaginary WMD's, Guantanamo bay, gas prices, his tax cuts and worst of all, his dictatorship.

1. Multiple sources told him they were there, even other countries.

2. Was there WAY before he took office.

3. How is that his fault?

4. His tax cuts saved our economy after 9/11. Without them the economy would have crashed sooner.

5. What dictatorship? He never had one.

1. Yet there were none. How is that possible? You can't find nothing.

2. The torture wasn't.

3. The war.

4. No, a lack of taxcuts would be used right now to save the economy. Too many taxcuts. Not enough left for things like a bailout.

5. Things like Guantanamo bay, disobeying over 700 laws, eliminating habeus corpus,throwing anyone in jail without any review, and despite all that, not facing a single charge.

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#46 biggest_loser
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He has walked away scott-free from this mess he has made when he should be in gaol. He's a criminal and a murderer. So yes he does. But really the guy is his own enemy: he is the one who makes a fool out of himself and the media puts it in the news.
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#47 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Horrible president, but really know one deserves what was said about him
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#48 Ninja-Hippo
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He got blamed for some things which weren't his fault, like the economy, but overall i dont think he could possibly have done a worse job of being president so the abuse was well deserved.
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#49 Theokhoth
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No, especially when the President can't do half the crap he's blamed for.
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#50 Theokhoth
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He has walked away scott-free from this mess he has made when he should be in gaol. He's a criminal and a murderer. So yes he does. But really the guy is his own enemy: he is the one who makes a fool out of himself and the media puts it in the news. biggest_loser

Who has he killed?