Do you think heroin should be legal?

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#1 bloodling
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For some reason, some people think it would be a good idea to legalize heroin. Do you think it'd really be worth it? Why?

Please keep in mind that you should expand on the fact that the advantages would outweight the disadvantages or vice-versa. You should be realistic when giving your opinion, not just give the advantages without giving the disadvantages, for example.

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Just on the weekends. :)
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#3 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Absolutely not. Marijuana, a few other drugs that are infinitely more safe, sure.

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#4 3eyedrazorback
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Absolutely not. Marijuana, a few other drugs that are infinitely more safe, sure.

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Here here. Drugs that make you go crazy, those are a no-no. Mary, she's cool though.
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#5 hippiesanta
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU6U-8LP1DY&feature=share

this is what happen if heroin is legalised

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#6 turtlethetaffer
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Um, no. It's really, really dagerous.

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#7 monkeymoose5000
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I would love some heroin right now.
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#8 topgunmv
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It already is, ever heard of oxycotin?

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#9 ZumaJones07
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Sure, why not. It's not like we would see an increase in usage. I think Portugal did this back in the early 2000's and they saw a decrease in usage and an increase in people going in for treatment. Legalize everything. Ron Paul 2012!
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#10 SPYDER0416
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Yeah... No.

Heroin is one of the worst hardcore drugs out there, and definitely one of the last to ever be considered for legalization.

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#11 linkin_guy109
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should we legalize a drug which has claimed many many lifes and has ruined countless lifes as well? sounds a lot like fast food and alcohol :P

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#12 poptart
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Better regulated than not, considering the majority of deaths occur on the back of the fluctuating strengths of the various batches that land and the stuff it's cut with (as well as sharing of needles of course for those who prefer to bang it up). Pure heroin is one of the least toxic drugs around with little to no adverse effects on the body in the same way, say, that alcohol does.

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#13 nilzg
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No.. just no..
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#14 TheHighWind
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No, it should stay illegal.

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#15 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Sure, why not. It's not like we would see an increase in usage. I think Portugal did this back in the early 2000's and they saw a decrease in usage and an increase in people going in for treatment. Legalize everything. Ron Paul 2012!ZumaJones07

That was marijuana.

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#16 TheHighWind
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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]Sure, why not. It's not like we would see an increase in usage. I think Portugal did this back in the early 2000's and they saw a decrease in usage and an increase in people going in for treatment. Legalize everything. Ron Paul 2012!airshocker

That was marijuana.

Item 9?

ILLEGAL!

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#17 Bravo189
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Personally, I think that people are going to get their hands on the stuff regardless of whether it's legal or not, so in my opinion, it's better to have it under regulation.

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#18 Jackboot343
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It's your body. Use it how you want to.

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#19 bloodling
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Pros:

Tax money (not as much as legalizing pot)

Less heroin-related crimes

Cons:

Easy accessibility to heroin

Illegal heroine sold cheaper

Possible raise of usage

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#20 worlock77
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

Absolutely not. Marijuana, a few other drugs that are infinitely more safe, sure.

3eyedrazorback

Here here. Drugs that make you go crazy, those are a no-no. Mary, she's cool though.

Heroin doesn't make you go crazy. It just makes you nod off to sleep.

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#21 deactivated-5d1cb98d088e5
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No, and the reason why is like I say with other drugs there would be way to many laws to go along side it. Age laws, restricting people who abused it in the past or it caused then to commit crimes. Not to mention the death rate going up for users, recreational, and heavy, also from accidents caused by the drug that involve innocent bystanders.

Way to much baggage with this one.

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#22 worlock77
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No, and the reason why is like I say with other drugs there would be way to many laws to go along side it. Age laws, restricting people who abused it in the past or it caused then to commit crimes. Not to mention the death rate going up for users, recreational, and heavy, also from accidents caused by the drug that involve innocent bystanders.

Way to much baggage with this one.

BATTOSAI76

How do you figure any of those?

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#23 Blue-Sky
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Nope. Heroin is incredibly dangerous and addictive.

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#24 biggest_loser
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No. /end thread
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#25 worlock77
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Nope. Heroin is incredibly dangerous and addictive.

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So are lots of legal medications. Perhaps were it legalized then more people would be willing to come forward and seek help in treating their addiction. What we have now does no one any good.

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#26 jer_1
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Pharmaceutical companies are already selling this to people the world over, in pill form. I'm sure most of you know that already...
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#27 worlock77
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Pharmaceutical companies are already selling this to people the world over, in pill form. I'm sure most of you know that already...jer_1

No kidding. I have a sister-in-law who's on three different opioids. She's walking around more strung-out than Layne Staley, but in her case it's accepted.

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#28 poptart
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[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Absolutely not. Marijuana, a few other drugs that are infinitely more safe, sure.

worlock77

Here here. Drugs that make you go crazy, those are a no-no. Mary, she's cool though.

Heroin doesn't make you go crazy. It just makes you nod off to sleep.

It makes everything dull seem quite interesting, and you extremely dull to everybody else. It's the opposite end of the scale to crack, only they share one similarity - neither are conversation starters and best appreciated in silence.

Smack heads are usually quite harmless folk, but have an annoying propensity to fund their habit through nicking everything. I lived with a couple once. They used to break into their parents house when they went on hols and clean the place out. They ended up doing the same to our own house.

But there's a lesson to be learned there - don't live with heroin addicts.

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#29 WSGRandomPerson
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Yes.
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#30 jdc6305
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I've seen what heroin does to people first hand. I know 3 people that died from heroin. I don't do drugs myself with that said I think all drugs should be legal even heroin.

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#31 PiscesChick93
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Definitely not.

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#32 Megavideogamer
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Do I think Heroin should belegal? No Heroin should not be legal.There is no real good reasons to warrant that. If there was, heroin would already be legal

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#33 Rhazakna
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Not only should it be legal, but it should be sold over the counter. The social problems associated with heroin would plummet if it was legal.
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#34 HoolaHoopMan
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I think it should at least be decriminalized.
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#35 despa1r_fact0r
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I'm not opposed at seeing all drugs legalized.

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[QUOTE="BATTOSAI76"]

No, and the reason why is like I say with other drugs there would be way to many laws to go along side it. Age laws, restricting people who abused it in the past or it caused then to commit crimes. Not to mention the death rate going up for users, recreational, and heavy, also from accidents caused by the drug that involve innocent bystanders.

Way to much baggage with this one.

worlock77

How do you figure any of those?

I just figured the amount of deaths and lawsuits would cost the courts a lot of money, which is tax money. Not an expert opinion, just what I think would happen.

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#37 Rhazakna
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="BATTOSAI76"]

No, and the reason why is like I say with other drugs there would be way to many laws to go along side it. Age laws, restricting people who abused it in the past or it caused then to commit crimes. Not to mention the death rate going up for users, recreational, and heavy, also from accidents caused by the drug that involve innocent bystanders.

Way to much baggage with this one.

BATTOSAI76

How do you figure any of those?

I just figured the amount of deaths and lawsuits would cost the courts a lot of money, which is tax money. Not an expert opinion, just what I think would happen.

It's an absurd argument. I don't see why there would need to be laws restricting former addicts. There aren't laws that keep former alcoholics away from alcohol. That's beside the point, though. Even if all that stuff did have to accompany legalization, the fact that costly drug laws would be repealed would probably mean less laws and far less cost. Also, deaths would probably go down since a legally sold drug wouldn't have contaminants like street drugs do. There's no logic to the notion that heroin would somehow be more dangerous if it were legalized. Think of it this way, was heroin more or less safe when it was made by Bayer Pharmaceuticals?

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#38 BuryMe
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU6U-8LP1DY&feature=share

this is what happen if heroin is legalised

hippiesanta

I agree. It should be legalised immediately.

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#39 wiifan001
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I don't think pot should be legalized. Heck, I don't think even cigarettes should be legal, alone heroin.
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#40 Ilovegames1992
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I'd be a hypocrite if i said no, considering i think marijuana should be legalised.

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#41 Sunfyre7896
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Weed, yes. Addictive as crap Crack and Heroin, no. I think alcohol and weed can suit just about anybody whether in combination or alone.

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't think pot should be legalized. Heck, I don't think even cigarettes should be legal, alone heroin.

You sound like the life of parties.
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#43 hoola
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Yes, along with all other drugs. I personally don't care if people get addicted and die in their basement from it. Thats their problem. I'm currently not worried about druggies (of any sort) hurting me or my family, so I am pretty sure I won't be worried if its all legalized.

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#44 Rhazakna
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't think pot should be legalized. Heck, I don't think even cigarettes should be legal, alone heroin.

Good thing you'll never have any power. People like you are what's wrong with the world, always so overly concerned with what others do. Why can't people just f*ck off and let others do what they want with themselves?
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[QUOTE="BATTOSAI76"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

How do you figure any of those?

Rhazakna

I just figured the amount of deaths and lawsuits would cost the courts a lot of money, which is tax money. Not an expert opinion, just what I think would happen.

It's an absurd argument. I don't see why there would need to be laws restricting former addicts. There aren't laws that keep former alcoholics away from alcohol. That's beside the point, though. Even if all that stuff did have to accompany legalization, the fact that costly drug laws would be repealed would probably mean less laws and far less cost. Also, deaths would probably go down since a legally sold drug wouldn't have contaminants like street drugs do. There's no logic to the notion that heroin would somehow be more dangerous if it were legalized. Think of it this way, was heroin more or less safe when it was made by Bayer Pharmaceuticals?

It's not that absurd. There are laws fobiding former alcoholics from driving. It's just my opinion anyway, you can't possibly say that it would improve the situation any more then leaving them illegal. I just see a bunch of dumb kids getting high from easily obtained drugs, crashing into a car driven by a family, killing them all in the proses, and then costing the courts a bunch of money on top of it all. I know it's not really a good argument, I just really don't think it'd help any.

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#46 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't think pot should be legalized. Heck, I don't think even cigarettes should be legal, alone heroin.Rhazakna
Good thing you'll never have any power. People like you are what's wrong with the world, always so overly concerned with what others do. Why can't people just f*ck off and let others do what they want with themselves?

Because it harms others too?

Societies job is to protect idiots from themselves.

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#47 Rhazakna
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]

[QUOTE="BATTOSAI76"]

I just figured the amount of deaths and lawsuits would cost the courts a lot of money, which is tax money. Not an expert opinion, just what I think would happen.

BATTOSAI76

It's an absurd argument. I don't see why there would need to be laws restricting former addicts. There aren't laws that keep former alcoholics away from alcohol. That's beside the point, though. Even if all that stuff did have to accompany legalization, the fact that costly drug laws would be repealed would probably mean less laws and far less cost. Also, deaths would probably go down since a legally sold drug wouldn't have contaminants like street drugs do. There's no logic to the notion that heroin would somehow be more dangerous if it were legalized. Think of it this way, was heroin more or less safe when it was made by Bayer Pharmaceuticals?

It's not that absurd. There are laws fobiding former alcoholics from driving. It's just my opinion anyway, you can't possibly say that it would improve the situation any more then leaving them illegal. I just see a bunch of dumb kids getting high from easily obtained drugs, crashing into a car driven by a family, killing them all in the proses, and then costing the courts a bunch of money on top of it all. I know it's not really a good argument, I just really don't think it'd help any.

I certainly can say that legalization would imrpove the situation. Let's look at just a few things that would happen were it legal. Less cost on the taxpayer due to fewer or no drug laws. A pure drug that isn't mixed with poison, resulting in fewer overdoses. The drug would be cheaper so addicts wouldn't have to spend so much to support their habit. Addicts wouldn't be criminals, making it easier for them to get help, and further reducing the tax burden since they wouldn't be filling up the prisons. The production and profit from the drug would be taken out of the hands of cartels, resulting in less crime.

I could go on, but this is just a bit of what would occur. The only real drawback is that more people might do it, but that hardly outweighs the benefits listed above. People should be able to put what they want in their bodies anyway.

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#48 VanHelsingBoA64
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Of course it should be legal. There isn't a single reason why it shouldn't.
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#49 Rhazakna
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't think pot should be legalized. Heck, I don't think even cigarettes should be legal, alone heroin.Ilovegames1992

Good thing you'll never have any power. People like you are what's wrong with the world, always so overly concerned with what others do. Why can't people just f*ck off and let others do what they want with themselves?

Because it harms others too?

Societies job is to protect idiots from themselves.

I don't agree with that at all. Society does not have a "job", what you want society to do is subjective. I think the notion that the state should protect individuals from their own freely made choices is one of the worst ideas there is. If I want to shoot heroin in my own home, and don't hurt anyone else, who the f*ck are you to say I can't do it? Why the f*ck do you think you should have the ability to make my choices for me?

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#50 VanHelsingBoA64
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]I don't think pot should be legalized. Heck, I don't think even cigarettes should be legal, alone heroin.Ilovegames1992

Good thing you'll never have any power. People like you are what's wrong with the world, always so overly concerned with what others do. Why can't people just f*ck off and let others do what they want with themselves?

Because it harms others too?

Societies job is to protect idiots from themselves.

No it's not. Any "idiot" can kill them self if they so choose, so long as they don't harm others in the process.