Do you think humanity will ever know everything?

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#1 yabbicoke
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In the last few centuries, humanity has made strides that before seemed impossible. I really think it's amazing that we managed to discover atoms, create a plausible theory to how humans got to where they are, and developed technologies such as the Internet and modern medicine within the last hundred years or so. But, do you think humans will ever reach a point where there's simply nothing left to learn? Do you think we'll ever reach a point where we literally know everything there is to know about existence, the universe, atoms, and anything in between? Or do you think that's simply impossible?

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#2 Ultrabeatdown55
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No.

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#3 SgtKevali
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No, simply put.

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#4 Allicrombie
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nope.
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#5 RobboElRobbo
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We'll be wiped out before then

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#6 yabbicoke
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We'll be wiped out before then

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Why do you say that?
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#7 UCF_Knight
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As we learn more, we pretty much come up with even more questions, because now we can ask about things we wouldn't think to before. So basically the amount of knowledge to be attained is always expanding. There's no possible way to catch up to it.
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#8 yabbicoke
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As we learn more, we pretty much come up with even more questions, because now we can ask about things we wouldn't think to before. So basically the amount of knowledge to be attained is always expanding. There's no possible way to catch up to it.UCF_Knight
Yeah, but how do you know that knowledge is unlimited? Like I said, we're really newbies when it comes to science, don't you think it's even remotely possible we'll reach a point where we know everything? For years, scientists have been searching for an equation that explains EVERYTHING, why is so inconceivable that one day we actually find it, and everything just sort of falls into place?

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#9 JuggaloRandall
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Jerry Garcia knew it all, too bad he died :(
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#10 Baconbits2004
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We'll never know how the universe was created.
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#11 UCF_Knight
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]As we learn more, we pretty much come up with even more questions, because now we can ask about things we wouldn't think to before. So basically the amount of knowledge to be attained is always expanding. There's no possible way to catch up to it.yabbicoke

Yeah, but how do you know that knowledge is unlimited?

Because I know everything.

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#12 carrot-cake
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No, what will humanity do then? There would be no point to exist. Nothing would move forward, because if we were to know everything, then that means humanity would posses perfect technology at 100% (maybe even more %) efficiency. There would be no way to improve anything, since everything would be known. Anything and everything would have been done.

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#13 bobaban
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C'est impossible!
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#14 quiglythegreat
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it is best to not know that one knows.
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#15 byof_america
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I'd hate to post this right before I head off to bed, but many members of my religion, including myself, believe that we will learn exponential amounts of information during the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ after his second coming. After we are judged we will have all eternity to learn even more, so yes, I believe humanity will one day know everything. I'm Mormon if anyone is wondering what religion could believe such crazy things.

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#16 Rhazakna
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]As we learn more, we pretty much come up with even more questions, because now we can ask about things we wouldn't think to before. So basically the amount of knowledge to be attained is always expanding. There's no possible way to catch up to it.yabbicoke

Yeah, but how do you know that knowledge is unlimited? Like I said, we're really newbies when it comes to science, don't you think it's even remotely possible we'll reach a point where we know everything? For years, scientists have been searching for an equation that explains EVERYTHING, why is so inconceivable that one day we actually find it, and everything just sort of falls into place?

The "theory of everything" is just supposed to be a unified physics theory that explains quantum mechanics. It's not supposed to literally explain everything.
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#17 Baconbits2004
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No, what will humanity do then? There would be no point to exist. Nothing would move forward, because if we were to know everything, then that means humanity would posses perfect technology at 100% (maybe even more %) efficiency. There would be no way to improve anything, since everything would be known. Anything and everything would have been done.

carrot-cake

Sounds like you just described the setting for a book you're about to write.

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#18 SteveTabernacle
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We'll kill each other off long before we get anywhere near that.
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#19 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

No, what will humanity do then? There would be no point to exist. Nothing would move forward, because if we were to know everything, then that means humanity would posses perfect technology at 100% (maybe even more %) efficiency. There would be no way to improve anything, since everything would be known. Anything and everything would have been done.

Baconbits2004

Sounds like you just described the setting for a book you're about to write.


And then everyone killed themselves. The end.

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#20 coolbeans90
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No, I do not think that it possible that humanity will be capable of knowing everything. Granted, we will know a hell of a lot more than we do now.

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#21 dunl12496
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Not even half of it.

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#22 ImprovedMind
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Who else instantly though of this upon finding the topic?

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#23 shoot-first
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As long as it took humanity to get where we are now, we still hardly know anything. It may seem like a lot to us, but it's still VERY far from knowing everything. I'd have to go with no on this one.

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#24 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]As we learn more, we pretty much come up with even more questions, because now we can ask about things we wouldn't think to before. So basically the amount of knowledge to be attained is always expanding. There's no possible way to catch up to it.yabbicoke

Yeah, but how do you know that knowledge is unlimited? Like I said, we're really newbies when it comes to science, don't you think it's even remotely possible we'll reach a point where we know everything? For years, scientists have been searching for an equation that explains EVERYTHING, why is so inconceivable that one day we actually find it, and everything just sort of falls into place?

Dude...people have died alone, their last words being heard by no one but themselves.

People's houses have caught on fire, and then they died in the fire while their life journals also burned up in the flames.

That is lost knowledge, which can never be recovered. And as long as we can present a SINGLE instance of knowledge being forever lost, then it is necessarily 100% impossible for humans to know EVERYTHING.

Even if we traverse the stars and master warp light speed (or...whatever sci-fi mumbo jumbo we choose to invoke) and manage to travel between galaxies in a matter of seconds, that doesn't change the fact that entire worlds have been extinguished before we ever even knew they existed. If there was anyone living on those worlds, then the details of their physiology and culture and history is almost certainly lost, with absolutely no way to be retrieved.

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#25 yabbicoke
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As long as it took humanity to get where we are now, we still hardly know anything. It may seem like a lot to us, but it's still VERY far from knowing everything. I'd have to go with no on this one.

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Well yeah, but the fact is that NOBODY knows how long human's will live. And we simply don't know how far we can go, we have no idea how much there is to learn about the universe. Why couldn't we be on a road that leads to the fundamental explanation of absolutely everything we know?
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#26 shoot-first
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[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

As long as it took humanity to get where we are now, we still hardly know anything. It may seem like a lot to us, but it's still VERY far from knowing everything. I'd have to go with no on this one.

yabbicoke

Well yeah, but the fact is that NOBODY knows how long human's will live. And we simply don't know how far we can go, we have no idea how much there is to learn about the universe. Why couldn't we be on a road that leads to the fundamental explanation of absolutely everything we know?

Because humans are the masters of destruction. We will most likely destroy ourselves before being able to do so.

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#27 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="shoot-first"]

As long as it took humanity to get where we are now, we still hardly know anything. It may seem like a lot to us, but it's still VERY far from knowing everything. I'd have to go with no on this one.

yabbicoke

Well yeah, but the fact is that NOBODY knows how long human's will live. And we simply don't know how far we can go, we have no idea how much there is to learn about the universe. Why couldn't we be on a road that leads to the fundamental explanation of absolutely everything we know?

It doesn't matter how long humanity will live, knowledge has ALREADY been lost.

And if that's the case, then it is already fundamentally impossible for humanity to EVER know EVERYTHING.

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#28 Barbariser
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That depends entirely on how lucky we are.

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#29 jun_aka_pekto
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Sure, unless humanity kill each other first. That or an asteroid snuffs out all life on the planet.

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#30 magoogo
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No...because the Protoss will wipe us out by then:(

In all seriousness though, we lack the evolutionary capacities to comprehend 'everything'. Humans were never intended to become omniscient...

This is a very interesting topic though.

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#31 max-Emadness
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[QUOTE="yabbicoke"][QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

We'll be wiped out before then

Why do you say that?

coz its probably true
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#32 Theokhoth
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If they do eventually know everything, will they know that they know everything?
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#33 foxhound_fox
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It is always possible. But then again, things are always changing, so technically, as soon as we know "everything" it changes and we have to learn more.

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#34 Nude_Dude
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Be educated, it's good! Truth is infinite, therefore if we ever were to know everything, we would have grasped the idea of infinite; which is impossible. Alternatively, Godel's second incompleteness theorem shall fill you in; nothing, based on a set of axioms like our logic, will ever be able to give definite answers to all defined questions.
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#35 Franklinstein
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No.

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No, simply put.

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That certainly won't stop us from trying though.
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#36 Wolls
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We will probably die out before that
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#37 mike_me
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With everything we know now, you'd think it's possible... but, I believe it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to know everything. Here's an example: Say you want to know everything about magnets. So the question asking begins... "What is that feeling, that, sensation you feel when you move two magnets together? What's going on between these two bits of metal?" - They repel each other. "Why? How?" - Magnetic force. "What is that?" - It has to do with the fact that in iron, all the electrons are spinning in the same direction; they all get lined up, and they magnify the effect of the force until it's large enough at a distance that you can feel it. "Why iron? Why not peanut butter? Or aluminum? Or snakes?" Iron has four unpaired electrons with the same spin. Because they have no opposing fields to cancel their effects, these electrons have an orbital magnetic moment. "Why does iron have four electrons? Why not six? Why not 9?" Grrr... they JUST do. "Why don't they have any opposing fields?" It's a magnet! I don't know. I'm not God!" And on and on and on and on, there is SO much on Earth that you can't see, and we'll never know everything. AND, even if we ever DO learn everything, then we have to look OUTSIDE! We'd have to learn EVERYTHING about EVERY planet in the universe other than Earth. We'd have to know WHY the universe exists, and if there is a God or not, for sure. Yeah, we will NEVER know everything.
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#38 The-Tree
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Possibly, but we'd probably all die before that happens.

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#39 GazaAli
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Certainly yes, its bound to happen eventually.
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#40 MystikFollower
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[QUOTE="yabbicoke"][QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

We'll be wiped out before then

max-Emadness

Why do you say that?

coz its probably true

Because a billion years isn't even long enough for us to see everything there is to see and learn about in the cosmos. And by that time, Earth will no longer be a living planet as the Sun begins it's dying process.

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#41 dracula_16
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No-- not even in the context of outer space. It's far too big to observe and study it all.

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#42 pygmahia5
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lol of course not.