Do you think life on earth for humans will be better or worse a 100 years from now?

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Poll Do you think life on earth for humans will be better or worse a 100 years from now? (15 votes)

Much better 27%
About the same 20%
Much worse 53%
Humans will be extinct 0%

Generally speaking of course (we will most likely all be dead).

The tech optimists (like the AI-leaders Sam Altman, Dario Amodei etc) thinks the future may be unbelievably good. They use terms like "post scarcity" meaning that there will be such an abundance of goods and services that everyone will get what they want, materially speaking. Another area with massive potential is bio-tech. Treatments for pretty much every dissease, aging solved etc. AI will also solve the problem of climate change.

On the other end of the spectrum we have people that believe humanity is pretty much doomed. Climate change, evil AI, nuclear war etc. There are too many threats and one of them is likely to cause human extinction.

I'm curious to hear what people think. Personnaly I feel really confused about what is going on in the world and change my opinion back and forth depending on who I'm listening to and my current mood.

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#1 GirlUSoCrazy
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That all depends on if I'm alive then.

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#2 Sushiglutton
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@girlusocrazy said:

That all depends on if I'm alive then.

I was thinking more human life in general. Will people live happier, healthier more fulfilling lives.

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#3 Maroxad
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They will face their own challenges. Much like we do.

Tech will be better, but will that lead to happiness? Things that may look utopian may end up becoming quite dystopian. Think of flying cars. They may sound cool, but the tech is already there, it has just been mostly rejected by society because they are impractical.

Climate change, biodiversity collapse, water scarcity are all very huge problems too. AI is not really being particularly well recieved either, that might change over time, but for now, outside of some very specific applications, it is not being taken well by society.

We also stride towards convenience, but not necessarily what is better for us. A car is more convenient than walking or biking, but now people are deprived from exercise that came with more active forms of commutation. Because you can order everything, on the internet and have it delivered to you, we no longer need to go outside, but as a consequence, third places have practically died out, people don't meet eachother face to face much longer, and people are lonelier than ever. If automation reduces our work hours too much, will we still find purpose, camraderie and a sense of belonging with society?

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#4  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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@Sushiglutton said:
@girlusocrazy said:

That all depends on if I'm alive then.

I was thinking more human life in general. Will people live happier, healthier more fulfilling lives.

If I'm alive, chances are people will be happier, healthier, and more fulfilled. Except the haters.

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A quote I always like to keep in my mind at all times, but especially during rough times, is this:

"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward [progress].”

I believe MLK Jr said it, and I insert "progress" where i believe he said "justice". But the gist is the same; it might seem like progress is slow (and it is), but we are definitely better off than we were 100 years ago, and more than likely better off than we were 10 years ago.

Go ask an older, oppressed group. Talk to (or find interviews with) older homosexuals, or people that marched for civil rights int he 1960's. You'll see they're generally happy, because they can look back with that frame of reference of the above quote.

Barring anything truly catastrophic like an asteroid or supervolcano going off, I'd say humanity will be much better off in 100 years.

Things were probably better in 1930 than they were in 1830, then we got Hitler and a World War, but guess what? We got over that, and 100 years later I think things are better now than they were in 1930. Will we get another Hitler? Probably. But this too shall pass, as they say.

And yes, I know things aren't perfect now and we aren't as far along as we might think we should be, but you have to temper you idealism with where we are, where we were, and how far along we've come (and where we are going and can be in the future!).

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#6 mrbojangles25  Online
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@Maroxad said:

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Tech will be better, but will that lead to happiness? Things that may look utopian may end up becoming quite dystopian. Think of flying cars. They may sound cool, but the tech is already there, it has just been mostly rejected by society because they are impractical.

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I think this is our biggest hurdle right now. The sort of "cost of entry" or capital cost. The impracticality of replacing existing infrastructure with new stuff.

"Green tech" is appealing for new factories for a variety of reasons, but to retrofit an older factory that is already cranking out units is not so appealing.

This is why I think we need to be more carrot than stick as a society. We need to appeal to corporate interests to get the change we need, maybe incentivize them to change. It might seem kind of lame to give money to corporations at this point, but if it means they change how they produce something and become zero emissions, then so be it.

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We'd have to reverse the damage we have caused. I'd like to think that we'd someday elect sane people who knows wtf they're doing as leaders so that there could be peace and resources could be put to good instead of war and greed, but some parts of the world are literally still in the 1800s, the movie Idiocracy is basically real in the US now, we continue to pollute and detroy, etc.

That, coupled with that we're currently not doing much to reverse any damage to our planet and society, I'm going to guess that things will not be much better, if at all better, in 100 years.

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#8  Edited By Maroxad
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@mrbojangles25 said:
@Maroxad said:

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Tech will be better, but will that lead to happiness? Things that may look utopian may end up becoming quite dystopian. Think of flying cars. They may sound cool, but the tech is already there, it has just been mostly rejected by society because they are impractical.

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I think this is our biggest hurdle right now. The sort of "cost of entry" or capital cost. The impracticality of replacing existing infrastructure with new stuff.

"Green tech" is appealing for new factories for a variety of reasons, but to retrofit an older factory that is already cranking out units is not so appealing.

This is why I think we need to be more carrot than stick as a society. We need to appeal to corporate interests to get the change we need, maybe incentivize them to change. It might seem kind of lame to give money to corporations at this point, but if it means they change how they produce something and become zero emissions, then so be it.

Green tech is the most promising part of future technology, that and medical advancements.

However, green tech wont undo the damage we have already caused and are still causing.

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I think it's going to be worse. The Bible says that killing in the name of God will be the norm, the persecution of christians will be the norm, people will lack self control and will usher in a global government (aka the New World Order). When I was a kid, people were a lot more calm. They had less anger and malice. We're retrogressing right now, in my view.

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#10  Edited By DEVILinIRON
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@Litchie said:

some parts of the world are literally still in the 1800s, the movie Idiocracy is basically real in the US now, we continue to pollute and detroy, etc.

We, over the pond, still need to elect The Rock as President of the United States. Then the realization of Idiocracy can truly be.

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I'll be dead so it's not my problem.

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#12  Edited By Planeforger
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I suspect it'll be better.

Every generation has their tyrants and their moguls and whatever, but they'll eventually die while baseline quality of life generally keeps improving.

I mean, think back a few hundred years. People didn't have access to the same medical knowledge we have today, so people were dying in childbirth or dying of plague or dying of infected teeth or whatever - and now lots of nations have amazing free healthcare, effective procedures for women's health, strong traditions of vaccines, effective ways to improve dental health, and so on. Lifespans are increasing, we're more free than ever, technology gets better every year, and I think that's going to keep happening in most places around the world.

The biggest concern is the environment. Hopefully as the younger generations replace the current billionaires, there'll be more effort to protect our planet and its species...otherwise, sure, the outlook is a lot more negative. But as a parent, I guess I have to stay optimistic about it.

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#13  Edited By madrocketeer  Online
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As I said, the 21st Century will be chiefly defined by a great 1v1 death race between technological advancement and human stupidity.

So the answer to your question will depend on the winner of that race. Technology wins = probably generally better. Stupidity wins = definitely generally worse.

Whatever happens, though, one thing is for certain: we're going to deserve it.

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#14 WitIsWisdom
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If we exist as a species and didn't destroy must of humanity with nuclear war or something worse by that point its safe to say our technology, if it continues advancing at the rate it is today, will carry us into a more prosperous future. AI is our future and possibly our demise. Nobody knows what tomorrow holds for us, but there is still hope.