Do you think Men & Women are really equal?

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#1 fariso
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I certainly do not, because if men and women were equal. Then humans would be shaped the same way yet with different reproductive organs. Also, if Men and Women are really equal. Men are stronger , but need assistance with decisions sometimes ,and have to provide for the family. While women , care for the young and welfare of the household. Wht do you think ?

P.S : Im not sexist

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#2 Nifty_Shark
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I don't think we can ever be equal. I'm not even talking about rights.

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#3 horgen  Moderator
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That we have our natural differences...
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#4 Ragnarok1051
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Physically speaking I wouldn't think so, but in society a man and women are equal and are capable of doing the same stuff.

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I certainly do not, because if men and women were equal. Then humans would be shaped the same way yet with different reproductive organs. Also, if Men and Women are really equal. Men are stronger , but need assistance with decisions sometimes ,and have to provide for the family. While women , care for the young and welfare of the household. Wht do you think ?

P.S : Im not sexist

fariso

You basically establish the fact that we are not the same. The things you mention do not imply inequality, but differences.

Not the same doesnt mean not equal.

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#6 Statutory_AP3
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There is reason why kitchens were invented.
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#7 ferrari2001
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both Physically and mentally women and very very different from men. Our brains not only work in different way, but our bodies are built differently and put limits on different things for both men and women.
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[QUOTE="fariso"]

I certainly do not, because if men and women were equal. Then humans would be shaped the same way yet with different reproductive organs. Also, if Men and Women are really equal. Men are stronger , but need assistance with decisions sometimes ,and have to provide for the family. While women , care for the young and welfare of the household. Wht do you think ?

P.S : Im not sexist

Teenaged

You basically establish the fact that we are not the same. The things you mention do not imply inequality, but differences.

Not the same doesnt mean not equal.

Yes agreed, I dont think the author knows what equal means. Equal does not mean the same.

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#10 black_cat19
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I think we are equal because we are all human beings, everyone has different qualities and defects, regardless of gender. But if I was asked to pick a "superior" gender, I'd pick women.

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#11 JimCarreyForYou
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No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.
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#12 AAllxxjjnn
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No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.JimCarreyForYou
Tell that to the Ancient Greeks.
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#13 mattykovax
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I believe we are equal. And if you look at the differences that do exsist they complement each other. The things women are weak at men are good at the things men are weak at women are good at so in the end it balances and we need both sexes for teh species to continue and be a healthy animal.
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#14 Grodus5
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We each simply fit into a different niche, physically the best woman will never be a match for the best man, but women have other things they far excede men at (such as caring for infants and such).

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#15 dan-rofl-copter
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Physically and mentally, no. In terms of rights yes.

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#16 Famiking
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Men and women are equal, but they are not the same.

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#17 12Bullets
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no one who believes in abrahamic religions can. they are only a fraction of a man the rib..
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#18 foxhound_fox
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My girlfriend is physically stronger than I. Your theory fails. There is no sexual dimorphism in humans.

However, culturally, even in the West, women still do not have equal rights. They can easily still be seen as objects designed for men's pleasure. I personally think women are equal, but society still doesn't. Hell, many jobs still don't pay equally for women as they do men.

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#19 cu_be_cie
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Way different, but similar in many ways.
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#20 cu_be_cie
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My girlfriend is physically stronger than I. Your theory fails. There is no sexual dimorphism in humans.

However, culturally, even in the West, women still do not have equal rights. They can easily still be seen as objects designed for men's pleasure. I personally think women are equal, but society still doesn't. Hell, many jobs still don't pay equally for women as they do men.

foxhound_fox
And sometimes men are oppressed over women, but you never thought of that, did you?
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#21 Famiking
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My girlfriend is physically stronger than I. Your theory fails. There is no sexual dimorphism in humans.

However, culturally, even in the West, women still do not have equal rights. They can easily still be seen as objects designed for men's pleasure. I personally think women are equal, but society still doesn't. Hell, many jobs still don't pay equally for women as they do men.

foxhound_fox

There's biological basis for men being more physically stronger.

And that is sad about the last bit, isn't there any protection for them? I thought Manitoba would be better at this than Ontario :P

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#22 Vagal_Fiddle_6
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

My girlfriend is physically stronger than I. Your theory fails. There is no sexual dimorphism in humans.

However, culturally, even in the West, women still do not have equal rights. They can easily still be seen as objects designed for men's pleasure. I personally think women are equal, but society still doesn't. Hell, many jobs still don't pay equally for women as they do men.

cu_be_cie

And sometimes men are oppressed over women, but you never thought of that, did you?

Women are physically weak you didnt know? It's ok for a women to have physical contact with a stranger but it's not for men cuz THEY ARE WOMEN YOU GET IT?:roll:

/sarcasm.

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#23 cu_be_cie
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[QUOTE="cu_be_cie"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

My girlfriend is physically stronger than I. Your theory fails. There is no sexual dimorphism in humans.

However, culturally, even in the West, women still do not have equal rights. They can easily still be seen as objects designed for men's pleasure. I personally think women are equal, but society still doesn't. Hell, many jobs still don't pay equally for women as they do men.

Vagal_Fiddle_6

And sometimes men are oppressed over women, but you never thought of that, did you?

Women are physically weak you didnt know? It's ok for a women to have physical contact with a stranger but it's not for men cuz THEY ARE WOMEN YOU GET IT?:roll:

/sarcasm.

Some guys push men around because they think it will impress a chick or something while they are nice to the chick. Pisses me off.
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#24 12Bullets
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No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.JimCarreyForYou
depends on the woman
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#25 JimCarreyForYou
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[QUOTE="JimCarreyForYou"]No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.AAllxxjjnn
Tell that to the Ancient Greeks.

What I could ask to someone that liked little kids and was gay He opinion is not valid. ( not for the gay part *InB4RageFromTehUsersIfTheyGotBadMyPost* )
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#26 WasntAvailable
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Of course they are. Women get to bask in the awesomeness of men, while in exchange for that they do the laundry and cooking. It's a perfectly balanced relationship.

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#27 JimCarreyForYou
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[QUOTE="JimCarreyForYou"]No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.12Bullets
depends on the woman

Yeah but a : Fit woman body >>> Fit man body.
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#28 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="JimCarreyForYou"]No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.JimCarreyForYou
Tell that to the Ancient Greeks.

What I could ask to someone that liked little kids and was gay He opinion is not valid. ( not for the gay part *InB4RageFromTehUsersIfTheyGotBadMyPost* )

Omg your post makes little sense. Could you rephrase? :?

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#29 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="12Bullets"][QUOTE="JimCarreyForYou"]No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.JimCarreyForYou
depends on the woman

Yeah but a : Fit woman body >>> Fit man body.

I completely disagree.

Fit Man > Mildly Unfit Woman > Fit Woman

Every one knows men are superior beings, and fit women are much less obedient to the master race.

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#30 clembo1990
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Clearly not.
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#31 JimCarreyForYou
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Omg your post makes little sense. Could you rephrase? :?

Teenaged
I can't is a riddle.
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#32 foxhound_fox
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There's biological basis for men being more physically stronger.

And that is sad about the last bit, isn't there any protection for them? I thought Manitoba would be better at this than Ontario :P

Famiking


Which is why some women grow to be 6'5" and some men only reach 5'0"? In species with sexual dimorphism, only one sex is capable of growing larger and stronger than the other with no known examples of the opposite happening.

Unfortunately, there is examples of pay problems in every career field. Hell, even male university professors get paid about 20% more and their tenure goes up faster. Women's rights still are a joke in many walks of life. Its sad.

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#33 Vagal_Fiddle_6
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It's a very simple question, nature has made women to get ****ed by man. It is THE man who ****s and it is the woman which gets ****ed. You should know by now whoz superior.

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#34 12345678ew
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I believe we are equal. And if you look at the differences that do exsist they complement each other. The things women are weak at men are good at the things men are weak at women are good at so in the end it balances and we need both sexes for teh species to continue and be a healthy animal.mattykovax
u sayung gays don't work? and btw we equal imo
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#35 Vagal_Fiddle_6
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Women's rights still are a joke in many walks of life. Its sad.

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Not in islamic countries where women are given so much favouritism like she is a child. In ques they have a separate line for women, in buses they have a seperate compartment for women, girls always sit on the front seats in our class cuz it is so conjested in the back etc etc and it goes on.

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#36 foxhound_fox
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Not in islamic countries where women are given so much favouritism like she is a child. In ques they have a separate line for women, in buses they have a seperate compartment for women, girls always sit on the front seats in our class cuz it is so conjested in the back etc etc and it goes on.

Vagal_Fiddle_6


Lolwut? Favouritism? Like legalising marital rape? Women in most Islamic are oppressed and treated as inferior objects created for men's pleasure. Like they were everywhere else 500 years ago.

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#37 cu_be_cie
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No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.JimCarreyForYou
Girls find naked guys sexy. I don't understand your logic.
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#38 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Omg your post makes little sense. Could you rephrase? :?

JimCarreyForYou

I can't is a riddle.

I really didnt understand.

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#39 JimCarreyForYou
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[QUOTE="JimCarreyForYou"]No woman are sexy, while we aint that much when naked.cu_be_cie
Girls find naked guys sexy. I don't understand your logic.

but a girl naked is sexier thats what im saying.
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[QUOTE="JimCarreyForYou"][QUOTE="12Bullets"] depends on the womanWasntAvailable

Yeah but a : Fit woman body >>> Fit man body.

I completely disagree.

Fit Man > Mildly Unfit Woman > Fit Woman

Every one knows men are superior beings, and fit women are much less obedient to the master race.

That's gay talk. (kidding).
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#41 T_P_O
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In terms of our actual being, no. We are physically different and are both vital to survival of the species.

In terms of rights, that is catching up slightly in the civilised world (Excluding where Sharia Law may be dominant). With abortion being a right to a women which is legally accepted in most western countries, and the employment of women in professional roles increasing. Although, it has always been a problem for equal rights with women, even in the western world. Especially with the traditional role of women to be mostly homemakers and mothers, supporting the husband where ever possible. Men will always be selected over women in certain areas of employment, such as manual labour. That much is expected.

So, no, women and men are not equal, never have been and unfortunately, may never be.

tl;dr flame me

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#42 TanKLoveR
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Not really, women are hot and men not so much.
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Which is why some women grow to be 6'5" and some men only reach 5'0"? In species with sexual dimorphism, only one sex is capable of growing larger and stronger than the other with no known examples of the opposite happening.

Unfortunately, there is examples of pay problems in every career field. Hell, even male university professors get paid about 20% more and their tenure goes up faster. Women's rights still are a joke in many walks of life. Its sad.

foxhound_fox

There are children stronger than men, does that mean there is no biological basis for men being stronger than children? On average, men will always be stronger than women unless something bad happens. I also never understood why women don't strike about these sort of things :( A pay rise would almost be guaranteed.


Lolwut? Favouritism? Like legalising marital rape? Women in most Islamic are oppressed and treated as inferior objects created for men's pleasure. Like they were everywhere else 500 years ago.

foxhound_fox

I guess it depends on the country, over here I'd argue women have an easier life than men. >_>

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#44 IndigoSunrise
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Yes we are. Men and Women are equal.Women as Foxhound fox have stated are not as sexualy divided in terms of physical terms as some would like to think. Women can farm, lift objects and stuff and even fight in wars just the same as men. They have done it for thousands of years. Plus they can give birth. That takes some strength. History is full of strong women who have proven that they are just as equal. What do you need to see to know women are equal? A woman killing a bear with her own hands before fighting off the entire Vietcong army all while getting a 100% on aacademic test? Strong women both physically and mentally are not some rare anomaly. For most of you there is a woman you will see on the street everyday that can do what you do just as well if not better. Hell many of youmen don't reach the standards you hold as "normal" for men that you consider women of incapable of being.

All this crap about women being worse at spatial reasoning in regards to academics needs to stop. Its been proven its a matter of nuture and not nature.

Women can do anything a man can do in modern society. Men can be oppressed in society but to act like Men have it worse than women is ignorence pure and simple. Women are still marginilized by society and treated as sex objects. Even in 1st world countries sexism in both subtle and not so subtle forms is accepted and even encouraged.

Biological sex exists objectively. Gender doesn't. The TC despite claims to the contrary is a sexist. If I were a woman I'd hate to have a boyfriend who thought I wasn't equal.


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#45 Santesyu
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If I were to apply for a job, and a lady would apply for the same job in my area she would get it... it make me friggin mad, but yeah I would say it can't get no equal then that..

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Ha ha ha, is this a trick question?
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#47 Dawq902
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We have equal rights but we are not nessesarily equal.

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#48 123625
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Not equal, but not superior.
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#49 Schnauzerz
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My girlfriend is physically stronger than I.

foxhound_fox

Rofl, thats actually pathetic.

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#50 Santesyu
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Not equal, but not superior.123625
explain?