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#1 kipohippo021
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Got you with my sneaky title. But, do you think that all airplanes should have parachutes in case something bad happens?

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#2 herpderp9000
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No. Way too expensive, and how many airplanes out of thousands each day crash? And most people would not jump. It requiers special training, you don't just strap one one and jump out the door.
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#3 Cook1eMonst3r
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Got you with my sneaky title. But, do you think that all airplanes should have parachutes in case something bad happens?

kipohippo021

No, it would be unneccesary. It's the safest way to travel today. Every day, millions of airplanes are being flown everywhere and only 1 or 2 accidents occur each year.

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#4 SgtKevali
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No. It's an absurd idea.

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#5 kipohippo021
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No. It's an absurd idea.

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It would save lives. Its never a bad idea when it saves lives.

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#6 Rocky32189
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Usually something bad happens upon landing, not when you're in the air. So they wouldn't be of much use.
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#7 kipohippo021
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Usually something bad happens upon landing, not when you're in the air. So they wouldn't be of much use.Rocky32189
Hijackers. If the passengers managed to take over them and nobody could pilot then they would be usefull.

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#8 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Airplanes.. Meaning jets? Do you know the optimum speed for a jet as well as a altitude, your going to need alot more then just a parachute.. But a Oxygen tank, and thermal gear.. Not to mention at the speed they are going..
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#9 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

No. It's an absurd idea.

kipohippo021

It would save lives. Its never a bad idea when it saves lives.

No, it would kill multiple times what one crash would

It's a bad idea, that's why it's never been used

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#10 FREE_DISEASE
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...how are you going to reach the parachutes when the cabin has been decompressed and lets just PRETEND that the stewards and pilots somehow organize everything and you all have your parachutes out, how will you survive landing over the middle of the ocean, the jungle or on top of a sky scraper?
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#11 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

No. It's an absurd idea.

Jaysonguy

It would save lives. Its never a bad idea when it saves lives.

No, it would kill multiple times what one crash would

It's a bad idea, that's why it's never been used

not instead of landing... As an emergency measure.

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#12 cd_rom
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It's not practical. It takes training to jump out of an airplane. There's barely any crashes to make it worth putting a parachute for each person on a plane.
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#13 thriteenthmonke
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No, they should have life planes instead.
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#14 muller39
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It doesn't seem feasable but it would take extreme parachuting to the next level.

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No, they should have life planes instead. thriteenthmonke
Gliders? And the parachutes would only be one other option. Options are always good.

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There are small private prop planes on the market that have giant parachutes that deploy from top allowing the plane to float down safely in the case of engine failure. I wonder if the same thing is possible for big commercial jets...

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#17 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] It would save lives. Its never a bad idea when it saves lives.

kipohippo021

No, it would kill multiple times what one crash would

It's a bad idea, that's why it's never been used

not instead of landing... As an emergency measure.

Yes, it would kill more then what crashes do

I'm not sure how you even think this would work

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#18 FREE_DISEASE
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[QUOTE="thriteenthmonke"]No, they should have life planes instead. kipohippo021

Gliders? And the parachutes would only be one other option. Options are always good.

Yeah that would be great! So we can boycott airlines and complain about tickets costing $200 extra.
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#19 Jaysonguy
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There are small private prop planes on the market that have giant parachutes that deploy from top allowing the plane to float down safely in the case of engine failure. I wonder if the same thing is possible for big commercial jets...

espoac

Nope, the stress of the pulling would tear the plane in half

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Airplanes.. Meaning jets? Do you know the optimum speed for a jet as well as a altitude, your going to need alot more then just a parachute.. But a Oxygen tank, and thermal gear.. Not to mention at the speed they are going.. sSubZerOo

Exactly. Jumping out of a jet at high altitude and speed is an extreme feat of skydiving that even experts would have trouble pulling off.

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#21 Duckyindiana
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The amount of extra weight that would add would prob mean most people will have to go on holiday without any luggage.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Airplanes.. Meaning jets? Do you know the optimum speed for a jet as well as a altitude, your going to need alot more then just a parachute.. But a Oxygen tank, and thermal gear.. Not to mention at the speed they are going.. FleeceJohnson

Exactly. Jumping out of a jet at high altitude and speed is an extreme feat of skydiving that even experts would have trouble pulling off.

Dude jumping out of a jet @ 30000 Ft. @ 350 MPH would kill anybody. Regardless of training or gear. That speed is too fast and even if you slowed down the coldness and lack of oxygen would kill those who did yet still jump.

It'd be a nice idea for those rare times that a plane does crash but seriously its just not practical.

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#23 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="FleeceJohnson"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Airplanes.. Meaning jets? Do you know the optimum speed for a jet as well as a altitude, your going to need alot more then just a parachute.. But a Oxygen tank, and thermal gear.. Not to mention at the speed they are going.. XturnalS

Exactly. Jumping out of a jet at high altitude and speed is an extreme feat of skydiving that even experts would have trouble pulling off.

Dude jumping out of a jet @ 30000 Ft. @ 350 MPH would kill anybody. Regardless of training or gear. That speed is too fast and even if you slowed down the coldness and lack of oxygen would kill those who did yet still jump.

It'd be a nice idea for those rare times that a plane does crash but seriously its just not practical.

I would argue you have a greater chance of surviving a crash landing then you do bailing out on a parachute.

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#24 coolbeans90
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Hell no. Expensive, impractical, less safe, untrained passengers, the list goes on. No ups that I can make out.

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#25 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

No. It's an absurd idea.

kipohippo021

It would save lives. Its never a bad idea when it saves lives.

You know what else could save lives? If everyone were stripped naked and drugged before getting on the plane.

It has a myriad of problems.

1. Cost risk ratio. The chance of it's use is extremely low compared to the cost.

2. Storage: Where are you going to keep 100+ parachutes on the plane?

3. Lack of proper equipment for a high altitude jump. It can be -50 degrees up there with not enough air pressure. You wouldn't survive the fall.

5. Lack of training. Most civilians wouldn't know how to conduct a parachute jump .

6. Lack of organization. The situation would be far too disorganized (both socially and environmentally) to execute such an emergency plan.

7. Fear. Lots of people won't get over the fear.

8. Children, elderly etc. You think people will leave behind their children and babies?

And it goes on and on. It's an ABSURD idea.

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#26 kipohippo021
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Really? you wait till the altitude is safe.... common sense people. economicaly, yes its expensive.

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#27 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

No. It's an absurd idea.

SgtKevali

It would save lives. Its never a bad idea when it saves lives.

You know what else could save lives? If everyone were stripped naked and drugged before getting on the plane.

It has a myriad of problems.

1. Cost risk ratio.

2. Storage: Where are you going to keep 100+ parachutes on the plane?

3. Lack of proper equipment for a high altitude jump. It can be -50 degrees up there with not enough air pressure. You wouldn't survive the fall.

5. Lack of training. Most civilians wouldn't know how to conduct a parachute jump .

6. Lack of organization. The situation would be far too disorganized (both socially and environmentally) to execute such an emergency plan.

7. Fear. Lots of people won't get over the fear.

8. Children, elderly etc. You think people will leave behind their children and babies?

And it goes on and on. It's an ABSURD idea.

I wouldn't say it's an absurd idea in and of itself. It's just far more impractical and complex than one initially understands the idea to be.

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#28 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Really? you wait till the altitude is safe.... common sense people. economicaly, yes its expensive.

kipohippo021

When your crashing, your not going to be at the desired altitude or speed when your bailing out..

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#29 kidsmelly
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No. They should just place alot of passenger side airbags.

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#30 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] It would save lives. Its never a bad idea when it saves lives.

coolbeans90

You know what else could save lives? If everyone were stripped naked and drugged before getting on the plane.

It has a myriad of problems.

1. Cost risk ratio.

2. Storage: Where are you going to keep 100+ parachutes on the plane?

3. Lack of proper equipment for a high altitude jump. It can be -50 degrees up there with not enough air pressure. You wouldn't survive the fall.

5. Lack of training. Most civilians wouldn't know how to conduct a parachute jump .

6. Lack of organization. The situation would be far too disorganized (both socially and environmentally) to execute such an emergency plan.

7. Fear. Lots of people won't get over the fear.

8. Children, elderly etc. You think people will leave behind their children and babies?

And it goes on and on. It's an ABSURD idea.

I wouldn't say it's an absurd idea in and of itself. It's just far more impractical and complex than one initially understands the idea to be.

Yeah, it's absurd when you actually begin to think about it.

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#31 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]

Really? you wait till the altitude is safe.... common sense people. economicaly, yes its expensive.

sSubZerOo

When your crashing, your not going to be at the desired altitude or speed when your bailing out..

terminal velocity. People can only go so fast. When you jump, thats how fast you go. Its better than crashing and having everyone die. You guys seriously need to be open minded.

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#32 kipohippo021
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No. They should just place alot of passenger side airbags.

kidsmelly

in an airplane crash, i think those would be more dangerousthan anything. Especially to children, the elderly and teh babies.

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#33 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]

Really? you wait till the altitude is safe.... common sense people. economicaly, yes its expensive.

kipohippo021

When your crashing, your not going to be at the desired altitude or speed when your bailing out..

terminal velocity. People can only go so fast. When you jump, thats how fast you go. Its better than crashing and having everyone die. You guys seriously need to be open minded.

And what I am trying to tell you is the jet is going too fast.. These things were not designed to have people parachute out..

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#34 ZumaJones07
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You know what else could save lives? If everyone were stripped naked and drugged before getting on the plane.SgtKevali
The thread should end here. Saving lives is good and all, but if one is so adamant about saving lives, then you have to assess everything else that involves endangerment to people's lives. I would ask how to save more lives in driving before flying. :|
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#35 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]You know what else could save lives? If everyone were stripped naked and drugged before getting on the plane.ZumaJones07
The thread should end here. Saving lives is good and all, but if one is so adamant about saving lives, then you have to assess everything else that involves endangerment to people's lives. I would ask how to save more lives in driving before flying. :|

But parachuting out is better than just crashing. Its expensive and wont happen but, im not putting this out as a logical option for airliners. I thought people would get that.

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Yes parachuting out is better than just crashing. Yes having at least one guy survive by jumping is better than everyone dying. But the chance of there actually being a crash and the chance that everyone would know what to do with a parachute is so low that concerning yourself with that problem over other more prominent problems is silly.
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#37 kipohippo021
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Yes parachuting out is better than just crashing. Yes having at least one guy survive by jumping is better than everyone dying. But the chance of there actually being a crash and the chance that everyone would know what to do with a parachute is so low that concerning yourself with that problem over other more prominent problems is silly.ZumaJones07
Exactly why its not economical. But from the ground it would look cool. lol

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nah..

-plane crashes are quite rare

-pilots have emergency procedures drilled into them from the moment they step in the cockpit for the first time. they know how to react

-larger passenger aircraft would need hundreds of parachutes. imagine hundreds of panicked passengers trying to figure out how to use them while simultaniously leaping out all at once.. it wouldn't be pretty

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No. Way too expensive, and how many airplanes out of thousands each day crash? And most people would not jump. It requiers special training, you don't just strap one one and jump out the door.herpderp9000
This. Very, very expensive and dangerous.
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#41 SideSwipes
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you don't just strap one one and jump out the door.herpderp9000

:o

OH, CRAAAAP

Oh thank God. Jesus saved me!

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#42 awesomejdude
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No way. In most cases, you wouldn't have time to reach. You wouldn't be getting oxygen, and most people wouldn't know how to deploy theirs. Also, you'd get sucked into the jet engine. (Many crashes have nothing to do with engine failure.)