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Yeah man you're totally right! We should definitely throw people in jail for enjoying a beer or two. That makes total sense. I just don't get how other people don't see that the problem isn't people and their poor decision making skills, but it's in fact the chemical ITSELF that causes such violence. It's a violence chemical. Have you ever SEEN the structure of Ethanol? It looks like it wants to beat you down with a baseball bat. Scary stuff.
Cigarettes cause violence? What?
Also, no. Alcohol shouldn't be made illegal. The amount of violence that alcohol causes is insignificant compared to the amount of people who drink. Also, alcohol can cause sex which I think balances out the violence.
EDIT: Also I understand the irony of defending drinking while having this sig.
[QUOTE="dave123321"]No I do not. GatlingHammerWhy not though? Do not think that drinking is something that should be punished or outlawed. People should be given the right to drink and trusted to have self control. Other problems should be dealt with accordingly.
[QUOTE="dave123321"]No I do not. GatlingHammerWhy not though? what about cars. cars cause lots of deaths too shall we ban them.
...that's what prohibition was for. It didn't work. And no, the principal doesn't agree with me. If you can keep your **** together, not drive and not hit your wife and kids, I've got no problem with you drinking.herpderp9000Actually drinking in itself was legal during the prohibition period. It was illegal for the production and the transportation of alcohol, which essentially banned it, but it ultimately made it unenforceable since the act of drinking was perfectly fine. People could easily claim that they had the alcohol before the prohibition period or got it as a "gift."
Alcohol is only a problem when irresponsibly used. Since irresponsible alcohol use has such a massively bright spotlight in media's and our attention, I can no longer tell just how common responsible alcohol is.
There are always two sides: Freedom and Order. Absolute order would hardly be democracy, in fact video games should be banned for absolute order; absolute freedom would lead to anarchy, and governments wouldn't exist for absolute freedom.
The simplest reason that alcohol is not banned in a democracy is: enough people enjoy drinking.
Actually drinking in itself was legal during the prohibition period. It was illegal for the production and the transportation of alcohol, which essentially banned it, but it ultimately made it unenforceable since the act of drinking was perfectly fine. People could easily claim that they had the alcohol before the prohibition period or got it as a "gift." Moving the glass from the tabel to your mouth could be considered transporting it.[QUOTE="herpderp9000"]...that's what prohibition was for. It didn't work. And no, the principal doesn't agree with me. If you can keep your **** together, not drive and not hit your wife and kids, I've got no problem with you drinking.Dtnoip28
I think you're being sarcastic but think about the whole idea of going to a bar. Drinking either ends up in unprotected intercourse or even worse unwanted intercourse. :(Yeah man you're totally right! We should definitely throw people in jail for enjoying a beer or two. That makes total sense. I just don't get how other people don't see that the problem isn't people and their poor decision making skills, but it's in fact the chemical ITSELF that causes such violence. It's a violence chemical. Have you ever SEEN the structure of Ethanol? It looks like it wants to beat you down with a baseball bat. Scary stuff.
Atheos-Arkhaios
No, it's illogical to make it illegal for someone to ingest a chemical substance.markop2003So you think it should be legal to smoke marijuana and eat PCP?
[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"][QUOTE="dave123321"]No I do not. Vinegar_StrokesWhy not though? what about cars. cars cause lots of deaths too shall we ban them. Cars have another use though, transportation. If you think about what frat boys do in their frat houses when they drink can you really condone that?
[QUOTE="markop2003"]No, it's illogical to make it illegal for someone to ingest a chemical substance.GatlingHammerSo you think it should be legal to smoke marijuana and eat PCP? Ofcourse, it's their body, they can stuff whatever they want into it.
Collect wine, why?Nope. And in 1 year when I'm 21 I'm going to collect wine. But get drunk? NO
dunl12496
[QUOTE="Atheos-Arkhaios"]I think you're being sarcastic but think about the whole idea of going to a bar. Drinking either ends up in unprotected intercourse or even worse unwanted intercourse. :( How often do you go to the bar? Because every time I go it never ends with unprotected intercourse or unwanted intercourse. It ends with visiting with friends over drinks, and then going home to a peaceful evening. You obviously already have your mind made up about the evil nature of alcohol, but please don't try and ruin it for the rest of us who can drink responsibly.Yeah man you're totally right! We should definitely throw people in jail for enjoying a beer or two. That makes total sense. I just don't get how other people don't see that the problem isn't people and their poor decision making skills, but it's in fact the chemical ITSELF that causes such violence. It's a violence chemical. Have you ever SEEN the structure of Ethanol? It looks like it wants to beat you down with a baseball bat. Scary stuff.
GatlingHammer
Drinking either ends up in unprotected intercourse or even worse unwanted intercourse. :(GatlingHammerYou're making an extreme generalization with that statement. I usually don't nitpick about that, but that's simply not true. Every time I've left a bar, it was with a smile and fun story.
[QUOTE="markop2003"]No, it's illogical to make it illegal for someone to ingest a chemical substance.GatlingHammerSo you think it should be legal to smoke marijuana and eat PCP? Marijuana might be legal in california after the elections. It's really not as bad as PCP. And it's costing millions to enforce the law.
[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"][QUOTE="Atheos-Arkhaios"]I think you're being sarcastic but think about the whole idea of going to a bar. Drinking either ends up in unprotected intercourse or even worse unwanted intercourse. :( How often do you go to the bar? Because every time I go it never ends with unprotected intercourse or unwanted intercourse. It ends with visiting with friends over drinks, and then going home to a peaceful evening. You obviously already have your mind made up about the evil nature of alcohol, but please don't try and ruin it for the rest of us who can drink responsibly. A good question to ask is how old is TC. And has TC actually drank before in a social environmentYeah man you're totally right! We should definitely throw people in jail for enjoying a beer or two. That makes total sense. I just don't get how other people don't see that the problem isn't people and their poor decision making skills, but it's in fact the chemical ITSELF that causes such violence. It's a violence chemical. Have you ever SEEN the structure of Ethanol? It looks like it wants to beat you down with a baseball bat. Scary stuff.
Atheos-Arkhaios
Violent folks who drink bring the violence.
..buy for me, TC,
I just wanna love you,
but be who I am.
And with all this cash,
you'll forget your man.
Now give it to me.
Gimme that funk, that sweet, that nasty, that gushi stuff.
i mean....theres lots of religous extremist commiting violent crimes. a lot more than cigs.....we should just ban religion while were at it. OH and things like UFC, lots more violence than cigs. lets ban that too. lets see, road rage is more violent that cigs, get rid of cars = no more road rage.
did i make my point? cause i can continue if not
no that's rediculous. Everyone else should not be punished due to the fact some people make bad decisions while drunk.
[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"][QUOTE="markop2003"]No, it's illogical to make it illegal for someone to ingest a chemical substance.markop2003So you think it should be legal to smoke marijuana and eat PCP? Ofcourse, it's their body, they can stuff whatever they want into it. Wow, ok. Ummm PCP actually causes people to commit homicides, that's ok with you? A drunk driver killing your son and wife, that's ok?
Tried it once, didn't work (google "American Prohibition").
If people want to drink, smoke, use drugs, etc they will, law or no law. All these laws do is force its use underground.
Lol, your point is to ban everything or to keep everything. Things in the real world aren't black and white, pal.i mean....theres lots of religous extremist commiting violent crimes. a lot more than cigs.....we should just ban religion while were at it. OH and things like UFC, lots more violence than cigs. lets ban that too. lets see, road rage is more violent that cigs, get rid of cars = no more road rage.
did i make my point? cause i can continue if not
blackacidevil96
[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="GatlingHammer"] So you think it should be legal to smoke marijuana and eat PCP?GatlingHammerOfcourse, it's their body, they can stuff whatever they want into it. Wow, ok. Ummm PCP actually causes people to commit homicides, that's ok with you? A drunk driver killing your son and wife, that's ok? That stuff happens with sober people too. Should we start taking drugs that turns us into mindless drones that kind of just drift around so that nobody is murdered or killed?
[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Ofcourse, it's their body, they can stuff whatever they want into it.cd_romWow, ok. Ummm PCP actually causes people to commit homicides, that's ok with you? A drunk driver killing your son and wife, that's ok? That stuff happens with sober people too. Should we start taking drugs that turns us into mindless drones that kind of just drift around? using PCP=/= commiting homicide, trust me on this one.
Wow, ok. Ummm PCP actually causes people to commit homicides, that's ok with you? A drunk driver killing your son and wife, that's ok? That stuff happens with sober people too. Should we start taking drugs that turns us into mindless drones that kind of just drift around so that nobody is murdered or killed? No, I'm saying that the reason PCP is already illegal is that people commit homicide when they use it. Are you suggesting we make PCP legal? What for?[QUOTE="GatlingHammer"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Ofcourse, it's their body, they can stuff whatever they want into it.cd_rom
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