Do you think the Jonas Bros. would be better if they had more guitar solos?

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#1 DragonRebel0908
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I mean..guitar solo > no guitar solo. Kevin plays a short solo on "Fly With Me" but they really don't have much lead guitar work. You think they'd be considered decent if they had more lead guitar?

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#2 Pirate700
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Well any song is better with guitar solos. That goes without saying.

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#3 Darth-Caedus
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No, since their solos would still suck. They would be better if someone killed them and replaced them with people that actually have some semblance of musical talent.

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#4 DragonRebel0908
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Haha..I found it. That's why people don't like the Jonas Brothers. People like guitar solos. I believe every rock song should have a solo, even if it's only a couple of measures.

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#5 Wae416
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No, they wouldn't be. I think that most guitar solos suck, for the most part. Most overused thing in rock music, without a doubt.

Now if they had a drum solo...

Nah they'd still suck.

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#6 DragonRebel0908
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Well they play their instruments properly and in tune so it has to be their lyrical content. They sing about relationships with girls. No good rock band has ever done something like that..:roll:

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#7 Nevlim
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They have solos in their guitar songs?! :o Wow you really learn something new each day.
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#8 ragek1ll589
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It wouldn't matter since I still wouldn't listen to them.

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#9 cyberdarkkid
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No they would need less cheesier lyrics, songs with actual structures, complex riffs.....pretty much change everything and their stupid image. Guitar solos don't make a song better if the song is totally crappy, although they are the heart of most rock/metal songs.
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#10 Darth-Caedus
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Well they play their instruments properly and in tune so it has to be their lyrical content. They sing about relationships with girls. No good rock band has ever done something like that..:roll:

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They play their instruments with the ability of...well...really a 5 year old could pick up a guitar for the first time and play one of their songs perfectly withing 5 minutes....
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#11 TSNAKE617
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No, I want the Jonas Bros. to stay as far away from rock as possible. ;)

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#12 DragonRebel0908
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You can't say that Nick isn't talented. He can sing and play guitar, piano, and drums.

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#13 Darth-Caedus
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You can't say that Nick isn't talented. He can sing and play guitar, piano, and drums.

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He can technically do those things, but he can't do any of them WELL.
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#14 S3XYT1M3
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they will always stink no matter what they dod with thier music

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#15 DragonRebel0908
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

You can't say that Nick isn't talented. He can sing and play guitar, piano, and drums.

Darth-Caedus

He can technically do those things, but he can't do any of them WELL.

Yes he can. He plays pretty well. Simple does not mean bad.

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#16 black_cat19
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No, since their solos would still suck. They would be better if someone killed them and replaced them with people that actually have some semblance of musical talent.

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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Well they play their instruments properly and in tune so it has to be their lyrical content. They sing about relationships with girls. No good rock band has ever done something like that..:roll:

Darth-Caedus

They play their instruments with the ability of...well...really a 5 year old could pick up a guitar for the first time and play one of their songs perfectly withing 5 minutes....

Agreed. They don't even play their instruments, just like all good "teen pop sensations", it's all playback. All they have to do to make the crowds of pre-teen girls go crazy is stand on stage and look pretty, so it's not like they need to play anything, anyway... ¬_¬'

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#17 kurtoronie
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No. Guitar solos are often boring and unnecessary, but in the right hands it can slightly improve a song.

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#18 TSNAKE617
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

You can't say that Nick isn't talented. He can sing and play guitar, piano, and drums.

DragonRebel0908

He can technically do those things, but he can't do any of them WELL.

Yes he can. He plays pretty well. Simple does not mean bad.


It doesn't mean good either. ;)

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#19 pierst179
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My favorite band barely has any guitar solos so I don't think a solo automatically makes a song better. The Jonas Brothers would have to improve on many things in order to becomes at least a bad band so no, it wouldn't help them.

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#20 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

You can't say that Nick isn't talented. He can sing and play guitar, piano, and drums.

DragonRebel0908

He can technically do those things, but he can't do any of them WELL.

Yes he can. He plays pretty well. Simple does not mean bad.

You are correct that simple dosen't mean bad, sucking however does, and since he sucks, horribly, he is bad.
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#21 DragonRebel0908
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You hate on them because they sing about girls? They just have their priorities in order.

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#22 clubsammich91
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The only way they will ever be better is if someone pulls a Bob Dylan on them.
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#23 Nevlim
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You hate on them because they sing about girls? They just have their priorities in order.

DragonRebel0908
Emm no we hate them becuase they suck.
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#24 GabuEx
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Well they play their instruments properly and in tune so it has to be their lyrical content.DragonRebel0908

So, um, wait, as long as someone's instrument is in tune then it's impossible to fault their playing?

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#25 Darth-Caedus
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You hate on them because they sing about girls? They just have their priorities in order.

DragonRebel0908
No, I don't give a rats ass about the lyrics, I hate them because they can't play their instruments worth damn, suck horribly at singing, etc.
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#26 black_cat19
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You hate on them because they sing about girls? They just have their priorities in order.

DragonRebel0908

Alright, we get it, you love the Jonas Brothers, we don't. Who said ANYTHING about them singing about girls, other than yourself? :|

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#27 DragonRebel0908
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What makes them not play their instruments well? They just choose to play simple chord progressions.

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#28 ragek1ll589
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You hate on them because they sing about girls? They just have their priorities in order.

DragonRebel0908

No, I dislike them because they are idolized as the best thing since sliced bread and give a false image of what "rock" is.

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#29 black_cat19
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What makes them not play their instruments well? They just choose to play simple chord progressions.

DragonRebel0908

You just answered your own question. Any amateur can play simple chord progressions, so by your logic, the world is full of amazing musicians...

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#30 GabuEx
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What makes them not play their instruments well? They just choose to play simple chord progressions.

DragonRebel0908

I have a rather strong suspicion that it's not a matter of "choose to play", but rather isa matter of "can't competently play anything other than".

They can play some chords on a guitar, whoop-dee-doo, that's something that anyone with a couple months of training can do. Tell them to come back when they can do this.

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#31 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

What makes them not play their instruments well? They just choose to play simple chord progressions.

GabuEx

I have a rather strong suspicion that it's not a matter of "choose to play",but rather isa matter of "can't competentlyplay anything other than".

You can play some chords on a guitar, whoop-dee-doo, that's something that anyone with a couple months of training can do.

Nailed it. Though its more like a couple days or weeks of training rather then months. >_>
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#32 kurtoronie
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Personally, I dont care at all for instrumental skill. I look for composition ability, thats what really matters

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#33 GabuEx
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Though its more like a couple days or weeks of training rather then months. >_>Darth-Caedus

We're talking about the Jonas Brothers, I figured I'd give them some slack. :P

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#34 -OpaK-
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This thread reminds me of when me and my friend were listening to the radio and he said, "This song is pretty sick". Then the DJ said it was the Jonas Brothers and he was like, "awww ****. I hate this song now"

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#35 Tauruslink
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This thread reminds me of when me and my friend were listening to the radio and he said, "This song is pretty sick". Then the DJ said it was the Jonas Brothers and he was like, "awww ****. I hate this song now"

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:lol:
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#36 yabbicoke
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No, solos only make a song better if the player is good at playing his instrument.

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#37 DragonRebel0908
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Kevin's solo on "Fly With Me" isn't good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YFaPvcAgw4

3:02-3:14

It's short but it's something at least.

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#38 yabbicoke
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Kevin's solo on "Fly With Me" isn't good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YFaPvcAgw4

3:02-3:14

It's short but it's something at least.

DragonRebel0908

That "solo" consisted of about 10 notes :lol:

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#39 Darth-Caedus
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Kevin's solo on "Fly With Me" isn't good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YFaPvcAgw4

3:02-3:14

It's short but it's something at least.

DragonRebel0908
No, not good at all, lame as hell attempt at a solo...
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#40 GabuEx
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Kevin's solo on "Fly With Me" isn't good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YFaPvcAgw4

3:02-3:14

It's short but it's something at least.

DragonRebel0908

I counted - there were eighteen notes in total.

That's not even a guitar solo; that's just a bridge.

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#41 cyberdarkkid
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Kevin's solo on "Fly With Me" isn't good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YFaPvcAgw4

3:02-3:14

It's short but it's something at least.

DragonRebel0908

Compare that to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXUhlhl1NSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvj6Ydh8RSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nY-XDF_Ask

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prnm9eL-hNI

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#42 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

[QUOTE="DragonRebel0908"]

Kevin's solo on "Fly With Me" isn't good? It's short but it's something at least.

Compare that to this

Just like to add these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvfg0iLnzswhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg
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#43 tzar3
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Personally I still wouldn't like them or praise them, their music is just cheap mainstream pop synthesized music made for kids who swallow that stuff easily.

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#44 Tiefster
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No, they're too pop to the point where pop rock isn't even a good term for them.

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#45 GabuEx
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Compare that to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXUhlhl1NSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvj6Ydh8RSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nY-XDF_Ask

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prnm9eL-hNI

cyberdarkkid

I was going to go with this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk

2:17-4:37 and then 5:26-9:47.

That's right, six minutes and forty-one seconds, taking up 68% of the entire song - that's a guitar solo. :P

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#46 Darth-Caedus
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Personally I still wouldn't like them or praise them, their music is just cheap mainstream pop synthesized music made for kids who swallow that stuff easily.

tzar3
And, might I add, more then half of said kids don't even care about the music and just listen to them because they think their "cute".
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#47 tzar3
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[QUOTE="tzar3"]

Personally I still wouldn't like them or praise them, their music is just cheap mainstream pop synthesized music made for kids who swallow that stuff easily.

Darth-Caedus

And, might I add, more then half of said kids don't even care about the music and just listen to them because they think their "cute".

Also because "it sounds so c00l and catchy, tehe!"

Bah, they need a good ol' smack on the head, stupid brats...

What makes me gag is comments by rabid fans on youtube, that goes for any Disney pop music or that stupid little rapper brat that someone posted a thread about way back, the comments on youtube made me feel... sick. Being kids, you cant argue with em whatso ever, they'll just label you a "Haterz".

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#48 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

Compare that to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXUhlhl1NSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvj6Ydh8RSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nY-XDF_Ask

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prnm9eL-hNI

GabuEx

I was going to go with this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk

2:17-4:37 and then 5:26-9:47.

That's right, six minutes and forty-one seconds, taking up 68% of the entire song - that's a guitar solo. :P

Pfft, thats nothing compared to the six hour long solo by Thom Kubli:P
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#49 Wae416
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That's right, six minutes and forty-one seconds, taking up 68% of the entire song - that's a guitar solo. :P

GabuEx

No, that's insanity. That's too much of a solo. Guitar solos are cool every now and then, but not when they overwhelm a song.

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#50 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

Compare that to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXUhlhl1NSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvj6Ydh8RSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nY-XDF_Ask

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prnm9eL-hNI

GabuEx

I was going to go with this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk

2:17-4:37 and then 5:26-9:47.

That's right, six minutes and forty-one seconds, taking up 68% of the entire song - that's a guitar solo. :P

I don't normally listen to that kind of music but that was epic >_>