Do you think there is anything wrong with only having same-sex attraction?

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#1 Carlos_Santana
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Here's what happened yesterday:

A friend of mine (We'll call him Friend A) moved away. Right before he moved (I wasn't there when this happened), he came out of the closet. I told another friend (We'll call him Friend B) this. Friend B really liked Friend A too. When I told Friend B this (Friend B is also HEAVILY conservative, fundamentalist, and an open racist. I don't talk to him much anymore), he found it interesting and amusing. I said:

"I liked him alot [Friend A], he was cool"

Friend B replied "Not anymore"

He was a cool guy, and if he came back, I would honestly have no problem being his friend. This isn't the most homophobic thing Friend B has said, however this is a recent example. It brings me to the question: Do you think it is wrong to be a homosexual?

BTW, I know the title is unusually worded, but the censors got me

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#2 Canuck3000
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I would be lying if I said I didn't.

 

BUT, I don't hate gays.

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#3 foxhound_fox
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with being homosexual. Anyone who says different needs to open their mind and become accepting of others.
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#4 quiglythegreat
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Here's what happened yesterday:

A friend of mine (We'll call him Friend A) moved away. Right before he moved (I wasn't there when this happened), he came out of the closet. I told another friend (We'll call him Friend B) this. Friend B really liked Friend A too. When I told Friend B this (Friend B is also HEAVILY conservative, fundamentalist, and an open racist. I don't talk to him much anymore), he found it interesting and amusing. I said:

"I liked him alot [Friend A], he was cool"

Friend B replied "Not anymore"

He was a cool guy, and if he came back, I would honestly have no problem being his friend. This isn't the most homophobic thing Friend B has said, however this is a recent example. It brings me to the question: Do you think it is wrong to be a homosexual?

BTW, I know the title is unusually worded, but the censors got me

Carlos_Santana
Well, Friend B sounds like a jerk even if he does consider homosexuality wrong. I think you shouldn't smoke but I wouldn't disassociate myself from smokers just for that. What a stupid thing to judge someone on, with both. Really. Though much more so with homosexuality since it's beyond your control.
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#5 megagene
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You can't help the way you're born. Is there anything wrong with being black? Or Indian?
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#6 gs_gear
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A+B+C=X     X=gay     WTF?:?
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#7 EboyLOL
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Nope... homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone

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#8 lagosboy
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I personally don't see how it's possible (mostly my ignorance) , but whatever lifestyle people want to lead is up to them.
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#9 zakkro
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I'd have to say yes, but I do not discriminate against them. Though it doesn't sound right (rather hypocritical) I find nothing wrong with them, but you would have to agree that society (I hate to make this generalization) cannot condone homosexuality. Some do, but those who don't are more open with their hatred/dislike towards homosexuals.

(I put "I'm not sure" because, really, I'm baffled by my own hypocrisy) 

 

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#10 dragonlife29
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Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? Seems Friend B isn't very open-minded. Meh, don't know if my opinion would hold much substance in this thread, anyway.
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#11 OODALOOP
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No. Of course not.
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#12 dante_123456
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i don't have any problem with gay people, i just find it anoying when a gay guy acts like a girl (lisps, wears tight pants, etc.)
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#13 Guiltfeeder566
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Lesbians are hot so its OK.
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#14 Ogloff
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No problem with gays for me.  Being open minded rules *goes and watches "Mann gegen Mann" music video on youtube"
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Talk about an original thread.
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#16 darklord888
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As long as he's not trying to be gay with me I have no problem what so ever. He is who he is and going out with a guy or a girl won't change it.
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#17 SilverIce7
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No problem whatsoever as long as they aren't around me
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#18 SinkO
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Nope.
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#19 megagene
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No problem whatsoever as long as they aren't around meSilverIce7

Then that means you have a problem with them. That would be like me saying I don't have a problem with black people as long as there aren't any around me.

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#20 DEATH_GODX
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there es nothing wrong with it...though I know ppl who want to kill them...i mean eradicate them all.....
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#21 Gamezilla57
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I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual. I believe it's wrong, but I would never quit having something to do with someone just because they were.....err.....homosexual, but if I caught them staring at my bootay, then that's where I draw the line!
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#22 SilverIce7
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I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.Gamezilla57

 

Well as 21st century folk, most of us tend to believe (and rightly so) that bringing oneself pleasure IS doing right. If life isn't about pleasure, then what's your devine alternative----pain, perhaps?

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#23 Account_27
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No, I do not.
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#24 quiglythegreat
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I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.Gamezilla57
I don't think that many people are tempted to be homosexual....and those that are tempted are homosexual....this seems strange to me. I don't want to have sex with men. I'm not exactly chomping at the bit about that kind of thing. I would not call it a temptation because I am heterosexual. I imagine it's completely different for homosexuals and I don't see why it wouldn't be. That's no temptation at all, that's just a choice of whether you're going to repress your identity or not at that point.
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#25 Gamezilla57
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[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.SilverIce7

 

Well as 21st century folk, most of us tend to believe (and rightly so) that bringing oneself pleasure IS doing right. If life isn't about pleasure, then what's your devine alternative----pain, perhaps?

 

 

Do you think a guy pleasuring himself by cheating on his wife is right, or murdering someone? 

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[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.SilverIce7

 

Well as 21st century folk, most of us tend to believe (and rightly so) that bringing oneself pleasure IS doing right. If life isn't about pleasure, then what's your devine alternative----pain, perhaps?

I completely agree, though I don't think life is about pleasure so much as it is viewing the world in a positive way so much so that it makes you comfortable even with yourself. 'Pleasure' could be sex or drugs or something, and that's clearly not the purpose of life.
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#27 Account_27
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I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual. I believe it's wrong, but I would never quit having something to do with someone just because they were.....err.....homosexual, but if I caught them staring at my bootay, then that's where I draw the line!Gamezilla57

You cannot help it if you are gay Homosexuality is a temptation for the gay person, as heterosexuality is a temptation for the straight person.  There is no difference. 

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I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual. I believe it's wrong, but I would never quit having something to do with someone just because they were.....err.....homosexual, but if I caught them staring at my bootay, then that's where I draw the line!Gamezilla57


If it were a temptation then why am I disgusted when I think about myself being physically intimate with a male?
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#29 mish55
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i used to think so, but now i think it is a psychological thing, not just a random choice someone can make

 

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#30 quiglythegreat
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Do you think a guy pleasuring himself by cheating on his wife is right, or murdering someone?

Gamezilla57
Um, neither. People should do what make them happy. Cheating on his wife will not make anyone in the equation happy, however it clearly is not murdering his wife. That's really weird that you state it like that.
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#31 Account_27
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[QUOTE="SilverIce7"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.Gamezilla57

 

Well as 21st century folk, most of us tend to believe (and rightly so) that bringing oneself pleasure IS doing right. If life isn't about pleasure, then what's your devine alternative----pain, perhaps?

 

 

Do you think a guy pleasuring himself by cheating on his wife is right, or murdering someone?

What a crappy analogy.  How does homosexuality relate to murder or cheating?  By cheating, or murding someone, you are negatively effecting people's lives.  Who is being negatively effected by gay sex?  Answer me this.

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#32 Gamezilla57
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[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual. I believe it's wrong, but I would never quit having something to do with someone just because they were.....err.....homosexual, but if I caught them staring at my bootay, then that's where I draw the line!Account_27

You cannot help it if you are gay Homosexuality is a temptation for the gay person, as heterosexuality is a temptation for the straight person. There is no difference.

 

 

Heterosexuality is not a temptation. I've always liked girls, and I know people who have felt the same and turned gay Now, I I'm not going to argue this anymore, because it usually gets blown out of whack and becomes a huge thread. 

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[QUOTE="Account_27"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual. I believe it's wrong, but I would never quit having something to do with someone just because they were.....err.....homosexual, but if I caught them staring at my bootay, then that's where I draw the line!Gamezilla57

You cannot help it if you are gay Homosexuality is a temptation for the gay person, as heterosexuality is a temptation for the straight person. There is no difference.

 

 

Heterosexuality is not a temptation. I've always liked girls, and I know people who have felt the same and turned gay Now, I I'm not going to argue this anymore, because it usually gets blown out of whack and becomes a huge thread.

So what does "...is a temptation just like anything else." mean? :?

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#34 Account_27
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[QUOTE="Account_27"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual. I believe it's wrong, but I would never quit having something to do with someone just because they were.....err.....homosexual, but if I caught them staring at my bootay, then that's where I draw the line!Gamezilla57

You cannot help it if you are gay Homosexuality is a temptation for the gay person, as heterosexuality is a temptation for the straight person. There is no difference.

 

 

Heterosexuality is not a temptation. I've always liked girls, and I know people who have felt the same and turned gay Now, I I'm not going to argue this anymore, because it usually gets blown out of whack and becomes a huge thread.

 And how old are you and these people you know?  Let me guess, around 14-15.  Right around puberty when sexuality is explored.  They never "turned" gay they only realized they were after exploration.  And you don't want to argue this anymore because you know you're going to lose this argument.

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#35 Flow4U
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Who said its wrong :|, someones going to get socked.
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#36 Gamezilla57
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[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="SilverIce7"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.Account_27

 

Well as 21st century folk, most of us tend to believe (and rightly so) that bringing oneself pleasure IS doing right. If life isn't about pleasure, then what's your devine alternative----pain, perhaps?

 

 

Do you think a guy pleasuring himself by cheating on his wife is right, or murdering someone?

What a crappy analogy. How does homosexuality relate to murder or cheating? By cheating, or murding someone, you are negatively effecting people's lives. Who is being negatively effected by gay sex? Answer me this.

 

Dude, I was anwering a guys question about pleasure. Read what I was replying to before bashing me for it. I have argued this matter before, and I refuse to argue it with people who won't try and begin to understand my point of view on things. I'm leaving this thread.

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#37 quiglythegreat
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I believe homosexuality is a temptation Gamezilla57


Heterosexuality is not a temptation.

Gamezilla57

I....don't understand.

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#38 Account_27
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[QUOTE="Account_27"][QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="SilverIce7"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.Gamezilla57

 

Well as 21st century folk, most of us tend to believe (and rightly so) that bringing oneself pleasure IS doing right. If life isn't about pleasure, then what's your devine alternative----pain, perhaps?

 

 

Do you think a guy pleasuring himself by cheating on his wife is right, or murdering someone?

What a crappy analogy. How does homosexuality relate to murder or cheating? By cheating, or murding someone, you are negatively effecting people's lives. Who is being negatively effected by gay sex? Answer me this.

 

Dude, I was anwering a guys question about pleasure. Read what I was replying to before bashing me for it. I have argued this matter before, and I refuse to argue it with people who won't try and begin to understand my point of view on things. I'm leaving this thread.

I understand your point of view.  I also understand the views of Islamic extremists to some extent.  Doesn't mean I'm going to agree with those views.  That's what an argument is about.  It's not necassarily about trying to understand each others views, is it?  No, it's about proving why your view is superior. 

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#39 Carlos_Santana
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Talk about an original thread.DaveGamer_05
Sorry?
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#40 Dariency
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Do you think it is wrong to be a homosexual?
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It depends on how you look at it. If you're religious, you think being gay is immoral because the bible forbids homosexuality. But from a non-religious stand point, your sexual preference is your choice and it should be accepted by everyone, with the exception of pedophiles. Two men and two women cannot physically reproduce children, so it's probably not the way it's supposed to work, but as I said, if you're gay I'm willing to accept it. In fact I think we all think about our sexual preference at some point in our lives.

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[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="Account_27"][QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="SilverIce7"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation just like anything else. If you let it take over your mind and convince yourself that you'd rather pleasure yourself than doing right, then that's when people start to believe they are homosexual.Account_27

 

Well as 21st century folk, most of us tend to believe (and rightly so) that bringing oneself pleasure IS doing right. If life isn't about pleasure, then what's your devine alternative----pain, perhaps?

 

 

Do you think a guy pleasuring himself by cheating on his wife is right, or murdering someone?

What a crappy analogy. How does homosexuality relate to murder or cheating? By cheating, or murding someone, you are negatively effecting people's lives. Who is being negatively effected by gay sex? Answer me this.

 

Dude, I was anwering a guys question about pleasure. Read what I was replying to before bashing me for it. I have argued this matter before, and I refuse to argue it with people who won't try and begin to understand my point of view on things. I'm leaving this thread.

I understand your point of view. I also understand the views of Islamic extremists to some extent. Doesn't mean I'm going to agree with those views. That's what an argument is about. It's not necassarily about trying to understand each others views, is it? No, it's about proving why your view is superior.

 

 

Temptation has also brought me back to this thread, lol. Listen, it's hard to argue with like 10 people at one time, man. I'll try my best, but it really begins to grate my nerves having to post something tight after I just posted to someone. 

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#42 DeLurk
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I'm bi... And I have many gay people in my family. So of course I don't have a problem with it.
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#43 Gamezilla57
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[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation quiglythegreat


Heterosexuality is not a temptation.

Gamezilla57

I....don't understand.

 

 

Temptation is being told to do something you know is wrong, but that's not what heterosexuality is. Heterosexuality is basic instinct, man. I didn't even that gay was such a thing till I hit 13, because it didn't seem natural and it's not.

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I honestly don't find anything wrong with being homosexual. It may not be how I roll, but that's the way you roll. I'm fine with it. 

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#45 quiglythegreat
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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation Gamezilla57


Heterosexuality is not a temptation.

Gamezilla57

I....don't understand.

 

 

Temptation is being told to do something you know is wrong, but that's not what heterosexuality is. Heterosexuality is basic instinct, man. I didn't even that gay was such a thing till I hit 13, because it didn't seem natural and it's not.

What makes you think it isn't natural?
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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation Gamezilla57


Heterosexuality is not a temptation.

Gamezilla57

I....don't understand.

 

 

Temptation is being told to do something you know is wrong, but that's not what heterosexuality is. Heterosexuality is basic instinct, man. I didn't even that gay was such a thing till I hit 13, because it didn't seem natural and it's not.

Being homosexual is natural...

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Temptation is being told to do something you know is wrong, but that's not what heterosexuality is. Heterosexuality is basic instinct, man. I didn't even that gay was such a thing till I hit 13, because it didn't seem natural and it's not. Gamezilla57


You sure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
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#48 Gamezilla57
Member since 2005 • 2486 Posts
[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]

[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"]I believe homosexuality is a temptation quiglythegreat


Heterosexuality is not a temptation.

Gamezilla57

I....don't understand.

 

 

Temptation is being told to do something you know is wrong, but that's not what heterosexuality is. Heterosexuality is basic instinct, man. I didn't even that gay was such a thing till I hit 13, because it didn't seem natural and it's not.

What makes you think it isn't natural?

 

 

Wow, it's kind of weird I didn't explore that until I heard the term gay and asked what it was now isn't it? If it's natural, then don't you'd think I'd have some knowing of it? I mean, what makes you think it's natural? 

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#49 Greatgone12
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Hate to be so damn blunt, but I actually feel that homophobes or people who think homosexuality is immoral are less intelligent than those who don't.
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#50 quiglythegreat
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Wow, it's kind of weird I didn't explore that until I heard the term gay and asked what it was now isn't it? If it's natural, then don't you'd think I'd have some knowing of it? I mean, what makes you think it's natural?

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There are a ton of gay animals. I didn't know sex at all existed until I was like ten, that doesn't mean that it's not natural. Just because you don't know about something doesn't mean it's unnatural.