Do You Think They Should Put An Additonal Tax On Fast Food?

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#1 littleyoungster
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Do you? Do you think that putting an additional tax on fast food should be done? If so, why?

Also, do you think that putting an additional tax on fast food could potentially solve the growing problem of obesity in the United States?

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#2 hydralisk86
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No, I don't think so. Everyone knows what food is bad for you, and other people who are not unhealthy and want to eat out at fast food places will have to pay the tax also.
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#3 Dark_Knight6
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I wouldn't have an issue with it. We already add additional taxes to other harmful and unnecessary products.

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#4 LJS9502_basic
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No. There is too much tax as it is.
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#6 DJ_Lae
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I think it's silly in the US but makes a lot of sense in a place like Canada, where the tax could subsidized energy use on defibrillators to keep the hearts of fat **bleep**s going when they collapse in the streets and reinforcing gurneys so they can be loaded into ambulances without incident. In essence it becomes a fat tax, which is a great thing in countries with government-funded healthcare and a terrible thing anywhere else. What would the money be used for in the US, for example?
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#7 rawsavon
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No... Short List of issues: -freedom of choice of where/what to eat -what would constitute "Fast Food" (subway is healthy), does a drive through window = fats food, then businesses just close the drive through window down -hurt lots of small mom and pop food joints (large chains would be able survive) -too many other problems to list Only argument that I see for it is a tax on "unhealthy" food...similar to a sin tax -would have to be on unhealhy food (not fast food...subway example) -reason being is that unhealthy food = up medical costs = up taxes to pay for health care -but too hard to regulate what is "unhealthy" -would some meals at Olive Garden be under one tax rate (salad) and others at the higher rate (lasagna)
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#8 gotenks123321
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No. There is too much tax as it is.LJS9502_basic

Agreed

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#9 awesomejdude
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Just because it's fat food doesn't mean it's instantly deadly for you to eat it. If you exercise regularly and eat healthy most of the time, and you want a McDonald's meal, you shouldn't have to pay extra just because other people don't eat healthy.

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#10 DJ_Lae
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Just because it's fat food doesn't mean it's instantly deadly for you to eat it. If you exercise regularly and eat healthy most of the time, and you want a McDonald's meal, you shouldn't have to pay extra just because other people don't eat healthy.

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I'm not sure if it's similar in the US, but in Canada if you buy a candy bar at a grocery store there's tax on it. If you buy a granola bar, there's none. Same with potato chips versus produce. It's easier to regulate that sort of stuff as fast food restaurants vary greatly, but it's a similar concept.
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#11 chessmaster1989
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No. There is too much tax as it is.LJS9502_basic

Agreed, but for very different reasons.

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#12 mfp16
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tax should not be used to tell people what to do... if i want to eat fast food every day that is none of your business.
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#13 drufeous
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Haven't had fastfood in ages but the past two days i've had taco bell and burger king. Forgot how amazing they both are. Can't make a habit of it though. And no they shouldn't tax it further.

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#14 artichoke
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Well it would pretty much be the same a sin tax which I have no problem with. However it wouldn't only hurt the people who eat there every day and then have to go to the hospital but also all the single moms who sometimes just don't have time to make a meal and are forced to buy something fast for their children.
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#15 EMOEVOLUTION
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Yes.

Why?

More socialism please.. I feel bad for free market capitalsts.

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#16 MrGeezer
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I wouldn't have an issue with it. We already add additional taxes to other harmful and unnecessary products.

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Yeah, but why fast food?

Problem I have against this is it would target fast food restaurants as opposed to "real restaurants" even though the food at high end restaurants isn't actually any healthier.

And seeing as how fast food restaurants are more common among the poor (since they're less able to afford eating at higher end places), it'd basically be a tax that selectively targets the poor.

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#17 STAR_Admiral
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instead of taxes, all you need is to put health regulations on unhealthy restaurants such as mcdonalds. Like there should be a limit to how much they can sell to an obviously obese customer
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#18 rawsavon
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tax should not be used to tell people what to do... if i want to eat fast food every day that is none of your business.mfp16

That is irrelevant…the gov. does use taxes to influence behavior

1. sin taxes on alcohol and drugs

2. tax breaks for giving to charity, churches, etc.

3. states get money to folllow the "rules" (like speed limits)

Now if they should do that is open for debate

But it is a fact that th gov. uses taxes to influence behavior

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#19 EMOEVOLUTION
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No. There is too much tax as it is.LJS9502_basic
No, there is not. WE need more taxes. Too many people have extra money they do absolutely nothing with but by useless objects.
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#20 DJ_Lae
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Problem I have against this is it would target fast food restaurants as opposed to "real restaurants" even though the food at high end restaurants isn't actually any healthier.

And seeing as how fast food restaurants are more common among the poor (since they're less able to afford eating at higher end places), it'd basically be a tax that selectively targets the poor.

MrGeezer
Aren't restaurants already taxed anyway when compared to buying groceries yourself? Short of increasing that around the board there would be a lot of admin costs involved in drawing lines.
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#21 STAR_Admiral
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No. There is too much tax as it is.gotenks123321

Agreed

I always love it when american's complain about high taxes. Have you even ever visited Canada, Europe, or any other socialized country? American taxes are amazingly low compared to the rest of the first world mainly due to the lack of socialized healthcare and education

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#22 Lord_Daemon
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No I don't think that an extra tax should be levied against "unhealthy" foodstuffs anymore than I think that meat substitutes should be heavily taxed as their consumers tend to be pretty unsufferable. Everyone's metabolisms are unique and handle heavy rich foods very differently and what might affect one person quite dramatically won't adversely affect another. I also don't believe there is an obesity issue in the U.S. and that the concern about it is largely a manufactured one.

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#23 mfp16
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[QUOTE="mfp16"]tax should not be used to tell people what to do... if i want to eat fast food every day that is none of your business.rawsavon

That is irrelevant…the gov. does use taxes to influence behavior

1. sin taxes on alcohol and drugs

2. tax breaks for giving to charity, churches, etc.

3. states get money to folllow the "rules" (like speed limits)

Now if they should do that is open for debate

But it is a fact that th gov. uses taxes to influence behavior

..and they shouldn't. The government has no business telling me what to do.
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#24 STAR_Admiral
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I also don't believe there is an obesity issue in the U.S. and that the concern about it is largely a manufactured one.

Lord_Daemon
Have you stepped outside lately? I have been to 13 countries in the world and seen people walking the streets, at hotels, at restaurants, on the beach. By comparison, I'm pretty sure america has an obesity issue.
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#25 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="mfp16"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]

tax should not be used to tell people what to do... if i want to eat fast food every day that is none of your business.mfp16

That is irrelevant…the gov. does use taxes to influence behavior

1. sin taxes on alcohol and drugs

2. tax breaks for giving to charity, churches, etc.

3. states get money to folllow the "rules" (like speed limits)

Now if they should do that is open for debate

But it is a fact that th gov. uses taxes to influence behavior

..and they shouldn't. The government has no business telling me what to do.

This is a very good debate...What exactly is gov. resp. for Probably my favorite Political Debate ever...(i don't fall into any party, so I get left out of many other political debates)
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#26 flazzle
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First of all, our tax dollars are constantly misspent. How many times has congress dipped into the money of one program to pay for another?

Second, whenever you tax something, you change the behavior of people. If you have numbers like 'ten million people eat fast food a day! We will generate this $$$'. Once you pass the tax, you are not going to get your projection.

People will find some other replacement, probably buying cheap crap food in a supermarket. So then we'll have to tax junk food.

I don't know. Maybe i'm totally wrong. But I just don't see people changing their behavior because of a tax. I truly believe smoking is down in America due to education, not the increased taxes on it. The smokers I know, no matter how strapped for cash they are, always seem to have money for smokes...

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#27 Big_Bad_Sad
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No. If they add tax to fast food they should add it to all food. People know the danger of over eating food like that. It is up to them to eat it in moderation.
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#28 Fandangle
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Yes lets tax everything more - it is the only way to save us from ourselves

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#29 Lord_Daemon
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[QUOTE="Lord_Daemon"]

I also don't believe there is an obesity issue in the U.S. and that the concern about it is largely a manufactured one.

STAR_Admiral

Have you stepped outside lately? I have been to 13 countries in the world and seen people walking the streets, at hotels, at restaurants, on the beach. By comparison, I'm pretty sure america has an obesity issue.

Why yes I have, in fact I work in the public field at a particularly busy store and I help quite literally hundreds of people on a daily basis. Having done so for 20 years or so leads me to wonder where all these massive fields of fat people and their armies of fat children are hiding that are supposed to be overrunning the country. To be sure, I do believe that we probably consume more fatty foods than is normal and that we perhaps as a nation run a tad over a typical national average -- but obese? No I don't think so.

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#30 escapeoftheape
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how is it even possible to doubt that the US has a MAJOR obesety problem? 3/4 of all americans are overweight and 1/3 are obese. in a room of 100 americans only 26 would be normal. and also for a western country the US is INSANELY cheap. I do most of my clothes-shopping there. its like listening to Londoners complain about rain.. its just.. annoying. stop complaining when there is nothing to complain about!!
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#31 HipYoungster42
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Nah, I don't think they should tax fast food. If the goal is to help solve the problem of obesity in America, it will never work. People need to become healthy by their own free will; if they become healthy just because they aren't able to access their favorite junky foods, the problem of obesity in America will never become truly solved. Also, I don't want to spend any more money on food in the future than I am now, so taxing would be a no in my eyes.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No. There is too much tax as it is.EMOEVOLUTION
No, there is not. WE need more taxes. Too many people have extra money they do absolutely nothing with but by useless objects.

No some people actually need all the money they earn. You shouldn't care what other people use their money on anyways, this is a free country. Sometimes the government uses the money on useless stuff also.
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#33 yagr_zero
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I thought there was an additional tax on fast food. Like an extra 1% excise tax. Maybe that was just in Illinois...
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#34 Hot-Tamale
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They should put a tax on foods that are awful for you. It would prevent many diseases associated with eating fatty, sugary foods and raise revenue for state governments.
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#35 DivergeUnify
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Um no. As bad as fast food is. Many people with low income don't have time to cook or go to high end restaurants, so it could only make things worse, not better.
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#36 double_decker
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It wouldn't solve the problem, but they probably will end up doing it since it will mean more money for the Government and less money for us.
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#37 links136
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No. If they add tax to fast food they should add it to all food. People know the danger of over eating food like that. It is up to them to eat it in moderation.Big_Bad_Sad

then why not legalize drugs also?

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#38 weezyfb
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sure . fat people will still pay
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#39 Serraph105
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no I don't think so unless they plan to make healthier foods cheaper at the same time. There are poor people who kinda need fast food places like McDonalds to be ok.

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#40 munu9
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I wouldn't mind. We have a tax on cigarettes don't we? And on gas?
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#41 DivergeUnify
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no I don't think so unless they plan to make healthier foods cheaper at the same time. There are poor people who kinda need fast food places like McDonalds to be ok.

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Exactly
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#42 Theokhoth
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No. It boils down to a fat tax, and not all fat people are so because of food; it's discriminatory and does not belong in the legal system.

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#43 Omni-Slash
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No....it's just another way of the government to take more money..hell the congressional budget Office came out today and said that Preventive Medicine does not save the country any money......seriously people need to get out of other peoples lives....
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#44 vidplayer8
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No, if people can't control themselves, than too bad for them.

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#45 savebattery
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Hell no. I'm a grown man and if I feel like hardening my arteries I have every right to. The government is not my mother.
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#46 AngelNeo00
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No there shouldn't be a fast food tax seriously. Living in NYC I get tax to death already. :cry:

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#47 Omni-Slash
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No there shouldn't be a fast food tax seriously. Living in NYC I get tax to death already. :cry:

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no worries...upstate NY is the same way....
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#48 double_decker
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]

No there shouldn't be a fast food tax seriously. Living in NYC I get tax to death already. :cry:

no worries...upstate NY is the same way....

Same with downstate NY :lol:
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#49 munu9
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Hell no. I'm a grown man and if I feel like hardening my arteries I have every right to. The government is not my mother.savebattery
It's not like all fast food would be banned, you'd just have to pay 5-10 cents more for it
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#50 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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HELL NO! Then I'd have to pay more....