Does anyone else thing this Miss USA controversy is stupid?

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#1 hedden93
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All she did is speak her mind and everyone is freaking out. I just don't see the big deal. I mean the government has said it wrong to get married but when some kind girl says it its rude and mean.

Does anyone else think this controversy is stupid?

this is all she said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMvviFbkf0

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#3 vendettared468
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I'm sorry to be the jerk that says it, but this is nes from roughly 2 weeks ago.

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#4 JimCarreyForYou
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Yes is stupid just because she said what she thought.
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#5 mindstorm
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Yes it's stupid. She was asked what she believed. Would it have been better that she lied? The fact she does not just conform to the standard put on her is something the rest of us should learn from. Actually stand up for something once and a while! Who cares if we disagree, we are in America and have a right such.
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#6 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="hedden93"]

All she did is speak her mind and everyone is freaking out. I just don't see the big deal. I mean the government has said it wrong for gays to get married but when some kind girl says it its rude and mean.

Does anyone else think this controversy is stupid?

this is all she said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMvviFbkf0

hedden93

sorry i had to edit,

That's not editing. You just quoted yourself and changed something. :| If you're gonna edit your post, edit your post. That said, as old as this is, I just think it's funny how people claim to be tolerant of many viewpoints and beliefs, but crushed her for this.
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#7 pianist
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I think it's stupid that people care so much about homosexual marriage.

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#8 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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I think it's dumb because it's she's just a contestant in a beauty contest...who gives a crap what she thinks? I know, she has a right to say what she wants, which is all good and fine...but seriously, who watches the Miss USA pagent in this day and age? Who really cares what she has to say?

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#9 JimCarreyForYou
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="hedden93"]

[QUOTE="hedden93"]

All she did is speak her mind and everyone is freaking out. I just don't see the big deal. I mean the government has said it wrong for gays to get married but when some kind girl says it its rude and mean.

Does anyone else think this controversy is stupid?

this is all she said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XMvviFbkf0

sorry i had to edit,

That's not editing. You just quoted yourself and changed something. :| If you're gonna edit your post, edit your post. That said, as old as this is, I just think it's funny how people claim to be tolerant of many viewpoints and beliefs, but crushed her for this.

Yeah, that's exactly what happens on this forums when you read the right post and go in the right threads.
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#10 artichoke
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It's stupid. First of all it's a beauty pageant so who cares what they think. Secondly everybody is entitled to their opinion and if that's what she believes then she is entitled to say it.
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#11 -xPANICx-
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I think it's stupid that people care so much about homosexual marriage.

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i completely agree. but i think its ridiculous that she cant state her opinion without getting insulted and harassed, but we all know the people that are harassing her can state their opinoinwhenever they want and its blasphemy to disagree with them.

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#12 mrbojangles25
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I think its stupid.

God forbid in "the land of the free" a woman speaks her mind.

What makes it worse is this:

1. She said she supports the legal aspect of it. In short, she supports gays getting married

2. She said she personally does not support it.

I wish politicians could be that blunt.

Essentially what she said is "while I dont like what you say, I defend to the death your right to say it". America is a land of benefits and tradeoffs. We can stand her and say how much we hate homosexuals, yet at the same time we must support their decisions and legal rights, because we must uphold the ideal of being the Land of the Free.

To not do so is unamerican. I hate to toss that description around, but its true...if you dont tolerate gays in america, your a stinking conformist communist manipulated by Christianity!

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#13 deactivated-60f8966fb59f5
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I think that Miss USA is stupid.
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#14 mrbojangles25
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I think that Miss USA is stupid.Welkabonz

ya but theyre hot.

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#15 Kikouken
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Yeah, I think it's stupid too.
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#16 Head_of_games
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It's only a big deal because they made it such a big deal. It is entirely possible she would have won if it had not been for the fact that she holds the same view as the majority of americans and even Obama.
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#17 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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It's to be expected; look at what happened to the people who supported Prop 8; it's not okay when someone speaks their voice on what they believe in, but it's perfectly fine for you to bash whomever doesn't have the same view as you into oblivion.

What has this country turned into? :(

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#18 Sway-
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I think its stupid that people make a big deal over it but I wouldnt want to ever talk to her.
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#19 MoonMarvel
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Very stupid and Perez Hilton should be ashamed of himself. He asked an honest qustion and got an honest answer, it was sad so many people used her to make an example of those who dare disagree. shameful.
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#20 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I think its stupid that people make a big deal over it but I wouldnt want to ever talk to her.Sway-
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want to talk to her?
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#21 Toriko42
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Perez Hilton should be ashamed, he's just some fat celebrity gasbag who needs to get a job
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#22 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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What controversy? If I were her I would make one statement about how this was just another fad for the news outlets to jump on and then I'd not respond to any questions about it again.
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#23 Sway-
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[QUOTE="Sway-"]I think its stupid that people make a big deal over it but I wouldnt want to ever talk to her.Stevo_the_gamer
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want to talk to her?

I will PM you the answer.
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#24 DJ-Lafleur
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Uggghhh, I can't stand her and her ridiculousness! Seriously, what makes her think she can just be honest and speak her mind like she did? Who would be as foolish as to stay true to themselves and their beliefs!? has she completely forgotten what America is all about?! :x

sarcasm aside, yes the whole "Miss california controversy" is stupid.

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#25 Link256
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Yes, if only for it being that is the kind of story that does not even belong in the media cycle to begin with.

Than again, that could be said for many of the things that appear in the media.

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#26 viewtiful26
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Yeah, I do think all the personal attacks she received were ridiculous. I found strange that these news reports were making attacks on her cosmetic surgery, when I imagine eveyone in a beauty pageant has these operations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQEHjM3mxI&feature=related

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#27 Sway-
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[QUOTE="viewtiful26"]

Yeah, I do think all the personal attacks she received were ridiculous. I found strange that these news reports were making attacks on her cosmetic surgery, when I imagine eveyone in a beauty pageant has these operations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQEHjM3mxI&feature=related

I watched this video and did not like it at all. Of course her not liking gay marriage is going to effect the vote just like if one of the girls said "I dont like gay people I want traditional slavery" isint that going to effect the vote. Its just the way it is the host of that program was very ignorant on the subject. Of course saying contreversial things are going to help you lose points.
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#28 viewtiful26
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[QUOTE="viewtiful26"]

Yeah, I do think all the personal attacks she received were ridiculous. I found strange that these news reports were making attacks on her cosmetic surgery, when I imagine eveyone in a beauty pageant has these operations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQEHjM3mxI&feature=related

Sway-

I watched this video and did not like it at all. Of course her not liking gay marriage is going to effect the vote just like if one of the girls said "I dont like gay people I want traditional slavery" isint that going to effect the vote. Its just the way it is the host of that program was very ignorant on the subject. Of course saying contreversial things are going to help you lose points.

It worked for this guy, apparantly he agrees with her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6q1lGR9FgU&feature=response_watch

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#29 FirstDiscovery
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Still she couldve deflected he question. But in this day and age, simply DISAGREEING with homosexuality makes you a hater:?
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#30 tofu-lion91
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I think it is stupid. I don't agree with what she said but she spoke the truth and wasn't even offensive about it. If she'd have said "Yeh I hate homosexual people, it's wrong and disgusting etc" then no the controversy wouldn't have been stupid. All she said was "PERSONALLY I think marriage should be between a man and a woman" I see nothing wrong with that and she should have won for being herself and telling the truth.
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#31 -Sun_Tzu-
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Meh, I thought that she gave a pretty poor and incoherent answer, and I don't think that it mattered that she answered in favor of "opposite-marriage". Miss California doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed. Shame on Perez Hilton though. I don't like him at all.
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#32 XilePrincess
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IMO I respect her opinion, even though I'm for gay marriage, and do like perez hilton, but the way she said things, the terminology used.. there was a longer video than that where she said more stuff, but IMO she just sounded like she had no idea what was coming out of her mouth (in the longer video) The thing that gets me though, is after all her nudes got leaked, and she does interviews without permission (in the miss usa contract it says that she has to get it) and she didnt get her crown taken away, that's stupid imo. Miss USA/cali should be somebody who people can look up to, not somebody who breaks their contract rules repeatedly.

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#33 WhiteWorld
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No one is criticizing her because she spoke her mind. They're criticizing her because she has this opinion. They're probably glad she said it. They're doing exactly what it seems every other poster in this thread seems to be criticizing THEM for doing: speaking THEIR mind. And the personal attacks are probably because she did not only have a stupid opinion but sounded like an idiot and didn't manage to construct a coherent sentence. Not to mention she looked crosseyed while doing it. Stupid people generally have blank, vacuous eyes that go crosseyed when they're trying to say something intelligent.

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I suppose it's rather sad that she was effectively disqualified for stating her views honestly.

That said, it's perhaps a good thing that she didn't win the Miss USA title. In view of the overtly religious remarks she has made in subsequent interviews, and her current relationship with conservative Christian movements, it seems very plausible that she would have used Miss USA status as a platform for her religious beliefs.

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#35 mindstorm
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I suppose it's rather sad that she was effectively disqualified for stating her views honestly.

That said, it's perhaps a good thing that she didn't win the Miss USA title. In view of the overtly religious remarks she has made in subsequent interviews, and her current relationship with conservative Christian movements, it seems very plausible that she would have used Miss USA status as a platform for her religious beliefs.

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Oh how horrible that would be... :|
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#36 Wolf-Man2006
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Yes, I do. She spoke her mind, she answered the question, she wasn't insulting, what more could anyone want?

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#37 -Sun_Tzu-
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Yes, I do. She spoke her mind, she answered the question, she wasn't insulting, what more could anyone want?

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A coherent answer, perhaps?
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#38 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yes, I do. She spoke her mind, she answered the question, she wasn't insulting, what more could anyone want?

-Sun_Tzu-
A coherent answer, perhaps?

Well... In her defense, I'd imagine that to have been a rather awkward situation.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yes, I do. She spoke her mind, she answered the question, she wasn't insulting, what more could anyone want?

mindstorm

A coherent answer, perhaps?

Well... In her defense, I'd imagine that to have been a rather awkward situation.

An awkward situation is no excuse for an incoherent answer in a competition that values coherent answers.

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#40 JML897
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I suppose it's rather sad that she was effectively disqualified for stating her views honestly.

That said, it's perhaps a good thing that she didn't win the Miss USA title. In view of the overtly religious remarks she has made in subsequent interviews, and her current relationship with conservative Christian movements, it seems very plausible that she would have used Miss USA status as a platform for her religious beliefs.

mindstorm

Oh how horrible that would be... :|

It's been said multiple times that she wasn't winning even before the question was asked...this question isn't what made her lose.

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#41 rjxtian
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Yes, I do. She spoke her mind, she answered the question, she wasn't insulting, what more could anyone want?

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I agree completely.
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#42 mfacek
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To understand why the gay community is so upset you have to realize that for them this is a civil rights issue. They view not having the same rights in marriage as straights do as the black community viewed segregation. Imagine the uproar from the black community in the 60s if Miss USA stated that she supported segregation. It may not be a civil rights issue for you, it certainly is for them.

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#43 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I suppose it's rather sad that she was effectively disqualified for stating her views honestly.

That said, it's perhaps a good thing that she didn't win the Miss USA title. In view of the overtly religious remarks she has made in subsequent interviews, and her current relationship with conservative Christian movements, it seems very plausible that she would have used Miss USA status as a platform for her religious beliefs.

JML897

Oh how horrible that would be... :|

It's been said multiple times that she wasn't winning even before the question was asked...this question isn't what made her lose.

That doesn't have to do with what I'm talking about. I was speaking sarcastically about how horrible it would be for her to express her religious beliefs as Miss USA.
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[QUOTE="Welkabonz"]I think that Miss USA is stupid.mrbojangles25

ya but theyre hot.

The two tend to go hand-in-hand.
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#46 LostProphetFLCL
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I think she deserves the flak she gets.

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#47 Morphic
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lol did i miss something? I was expecting her to sya something horrible. Considdring probably at least 65% of americans already think this way, i don't see the controversey.

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#48 Omni-Slash
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Yes it's stupid...she has the right to speak her mind...but the judges also have the right to award the prize to someone else...../story
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#49 MotherSuperior
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It's not like we watch or listen to her for any content or revolutionary ideas. The controversy over nude pictures is ridiculous as well. She's a pretty face with a little brain. Eye candy.
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Perez Hilton is a ****ing douche, can someone shut that *** up already? Jesus Christ.