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#1 Jaysonguy
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Donald Trump keeps on showing that he's the right man to be president. Everyone a real American can support.

He is so supportive of the people in this country. What he says is true, we're all looking for a safe nation where we can live and enjoy our lives.

This video is fantastic.

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#2  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Trump needs to share some more of his ideals. I cant believe he went and attacked Bush in front of Jeb Bush. Should be some good debating for in the future. i loved Jebs, " Now Sir, he said my name and my momma's watching." Burn!

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I really don't know what Trump's views are. He'll say one liberal position and then a far-right wing position. Is this his strategy to please everyone who hear what they want to hear?

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@Gaming-Planet said:

I really don't know what Trump's views are. He'll say one liberal position and then a far-right wing position. Is this his strategy to please everyone who hear what they want to hear?

Most of what he says leans right but is more centered.

He doesn't say anything liberal at all but does have a few far right points

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#5  Edited By bforrester420
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@Jaysonguy: What, exactly, is a "real" American?

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#6  Edited By deactivated-598fc45371265
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God he's got a bad tan. Like ganguro bad.

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#7  Edited By mark1974
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@Jaysonguy: you aren't paying attention. He said he likes single payer healthcare for one.

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#9  Edited By Treflis
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So a "Great American" is a self-centered person who likes to boast about himself, look down on minorities, Say the following "“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”" about their daughter and also complain when asked "tough" questions?

Something tells me some of the US members on this Forum isn't going to agree with that.

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#10 Jaysonguy
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@bforrester420 said:

@Jaysonguy: What, exactly, is a "real" American?

Someone who wants the best for the country and it's people and doesn't place any agenda above that.

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@Treflis said:

So a "Great American" is a self-centered person who likes to boast about himself, look down on minorities, Say the following "“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”" about their daughter and also complain when asked "tough" questions?

Something tells me some of the US members on this Forum isn't going to agree with that.

Yeah, I can understand leaning left or leaning right in terms of political belief but Trump's views are generally very, very racist and ridiculously half-baked. Still, the Republican who eventually gets the candidacy has to be careful not to alienate his followers so they can eventually pick them up themselves.

-Byshop

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@Byshop said:
@Treflis said:

So a "Great American" is a self-centered person who likes to boast about himself, look down on minorities, Say the following "“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”" about their daughter and also complain when asked "tough" questions?

Something tells me some of the US members on this Forum isn't going to agree with that.

Yeah, I can understand leaning left or leaning right in terms of political belief but Trump's views are generally very, very racist and ridiculously half-baked. Still, the Republican who eventually gets the candidacy has to be careful not to alienate his followers so they can eventually pick them up themselves.

-Byshop

Racist?

Please go on

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@Byshop said:
@Treflis said:

So a "Great American" is a self-centered person who likes to boast about himself, look down on minorities, Say the following "“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”" about their daughter and also complain when asked "tough" questions?

Something tells me some of the US members on this Forum isn't going to agree with that.

Yeah, I can understand leaning left or leaning right in terms of political belief but Trump's views are generally very, very racist and ridiculously half-baked. Still, the Republican who eventually gets the candidacy has to be careful not to alienate his followers so they can eventually pick them up themselves.

-Byshop

GOP are just catching on with racial pandering that the dems are so good at.

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@Jaysonguy said:
@Byshop said:
@Treflis said:

So a "Great American" is a self-centered person who likes to boast about himself, look down on minorities, Say the following "“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”" about their daughter and also complain when asked "tough" questions?

Something tells me some of the US members on this Forum isn't going to agree with that.

Yeah, I can understand leaning left or leaning right in terms of political belief but Trump's views are generally very, very racist and ridiculously half-baked. Still, the Republican who eventually gets the candidacy has to be careful not to alienate his followers so they can eventually pick them up themselves.

-Byshop

Racist?

Please go on

Seriously? I honestly don't even know where to begin. He refers to the African American community in the US as "the blacks" and Japanese as "the Japs". He has described Mexican immigrants as rapists. He called for a ban of all Muslim travel to the US and surveillance against mosques. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. Like literally every week he's saying something new that's equally as bad.

-Byshop

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@Byshop: See I would have swore he was a racist as well but I learned in another off topic thread the other day that racism doesn't actually exist! My mind was blown.

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@Byshop said:

Seriously? I honestly don't even know where to begin. He refers to the African American community in the US as "the blacks" and Japanese as "the Japs". He has described Mexican immigrants as rapists. He called for a ban of all Muslim travel to the US and surveillance against mosques. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. Like literally every week he's saying something new that's equally as bad.

-Byshop

Someone wanting to temporarily halt the passage of Muslim travelers and/or immigrants into the United States is now a racist?

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If I was American I'd be pretty embarrassed if Donald Trump was considered to be a great example of one.

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@Solaryellow said:
@Byshop said:

Seriously? I honestly don't even know where to begin. He refers to the African American community in the US as "the blacks" and Japanese as "the Japs". He has described Mexican immigrants as rapists. He called for a ban of all Muslim travel to the US and surveillance against mosques. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. Like literally every week he's saying something new that's equally as bad.

-Byshop

Someone wanting to temporarily halt the passage of Muslim travelers and/or immigrants into the United States is now a racist?

Yes

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@Solaryellow said:
@Byshop said:

Seriously? I honestly don't even know where to begin. He refers to the African American community in the US as "the blacks" and Japanese as "the Japs". He has described Mexican immigrants as rapists. He called for a ban of all Muslim travel to the US and surveillance against mosques. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. Like literally every week he's saying something new that's equally as bad.

-Byshop

Someone wanting to temporarily halt the passage of Muslim travelers and/or immigrants into the United States is now a racist?

Seriously? Yes, not to mention the other things he has said.

-Byshop

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@Byshop said:
@Jaysonguy said:
@Byshop said:
@Treflis said:

So a "Great American" is a self-centered person who likes to boast about himself, look down on minorities, Say the following "“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”" about their daughter and also complain when asked "tough" questions?

Something tells me some of the US members on this Forum isn't going to agree with that.

Yeah, I can understand leaning left or leaning right in terms of political belief but Trump's views are generally very, very racist and ridiculously half-baked. Still, the Republican who eventually gets the candidacy has to be careful not to alienate his followers so they can eventually pick them up themselves.

-Byshop

Racist?

Please go on

Seriously? I honestly don't even know where to begin. He refers to the African American community in the US as "the blacks" and Japanese as "the Japs". He has described Mexican immigrants as rapists. He called for a ban of all Muslim travel to the US and surveillance against mosques. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. Like literally every week he's saying something new that's equally as bad.

-Byshop

Well wait a sec, you're super vague there.

Calling people "the blacks" isn't racist. He also says "the whites".

When he used the word "Japs" he was referring to how the enemy was referred to during the war. If anyone has a problem with that then they have a problem with WW2 America, not Trump.

He described illegal aliens as rapists, also drug carriers, and killers. He's also justified in that claim by the .gov statistics on those crimes.

He has a proposed ban on Muslims and is called racist. Jimmy Carter banned Iranians and is called a humanitarian. So which one is it? Is Carter now racist or are people just anti Trump?

Trump (and most people in the real world) don't have time for political correctness to slow down actually helping people. Those that are against him for the most part are the people who cry about problems but don't do anything to change them.

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#21  Edited By Solaryellow
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@Jaysonguy said:

He has a proposed ban on Muslims and is called racist. Jimmy Carter banned Iranians and is called a humanitarian. So which one is it? Is Carter now racist or are people just anti Trump?

Trump (and most people in the real world) don't have time for political correctness to slow down actually helping people. Those that are against him for the most part are the people who cry about problems but don't do anything to change them.

Our government denies foreigners passage into America on a routine basis but not many people bitch and moan until it is Trump. I'd like Byshop and his compadre to explain the racism they believe would occur with such a denial of entry. I only wish someone would have done this years ago. A few buildings would still be standing and a few thousand people would still be alive but we wouldn't have wanted to offend anyone, right?

Speaking Carter, who remembers the Mariel Boatlift? We just couldn't say no!

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Racist?

Please go on

Retweeting false statistics from a Neo Nazi.

Had it been accurate I might have given him a pass... but it wasnt. It was a pants on fire lie.

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#23  Edited By Jaysonguy
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@Maroxad said:
@Jaysonguy said:

Racist?

Please go on

Retweeting false statistics from a Neo Nazi.

Had it been accurate I might have given him a pass... but it wasnt. It was a pants on fire lie.

Screwing up something on social media isn't a deal breaker.

I'm not sure that tweet is still up now is it?

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#24  Edited By Byshop  Moderator
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@Jaysonguy said:
@Byshop said:
@Jaysonguy said:
@Byshop said:

Yeah, I can understand leaning left or leaning right in terms of political belief but Trump's views are generally very, very racist and ridiculously half-baked. Still, the Republican who eventually gets the candidacy has to be careful not to alienate his followers so they can eventually pick them up themselves.

-Byshop

Racist?

Please go on

Seriously? I honestly don't even know where to begin. He refers to the African American community in the US as "the blacks" and Japanese as "the Japs". He has described Mexican immigrants as rapists. He called for a ban of all Muslim travel to the US and surveillance against mosques. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. Like literally every week he's saying something new that's equally as bad.

-Byshop

Well wait a sec, you're super vague there.

Calling people "the blacks" isn't racist. He also says "the whites".

When he used the word "Japs" he was referring to how the enemy was referred to during the war. If anyone has a problem with that then they have a problem with WW2 America, not Trump.

He described illegal aliens as rapists, also drug carriers, and killers. He's also justified in that claim by the .gov statistics on those crimes.

He has a proposed ban on Muslims and is called racist. Jimmy Carter banned Iranians and is called a humanitarian. So which one is it? Is Carter now racist or are people just anti Trump?

Trump (and most people in the real world) don't have time for political correctness to slow down actually helping people. Those that are against him for the most part are the people who cry about problems but don't do anything to change them.

"Japs" is a racial slur and while yes, people used it often when we were at war we -aren't- anymore and continuing to refer to them by a slur is still a pretty crappy thing to do. And "no", I don't have a problem with WW2 America. I'm not blaming Trump for the fact that the slur exists, but the fact that the word exist doesn't excuse him using it nor any other racial slur.

Trump's statement about Mexicans made it sound like the majority of immigrants were rapists, criminals, and drug mules which is absolutely -not- supported by statistics. He frequently makes broad, sweeping negative generalizations about groups who are essentially "not us". Footage I have seen from his rallies is particularly xenophobic.

Carter's Visa ban was a punitive measure against the country of Iran's government over an active hostage crisis in an attempt to secure their release without resorting to military action. It wasn't because Carter assumed that all Iranians were terrorists or because he was afraid they were only coming here to hurt the country, which -is- the reason why Trump wants to ban travel for Muslims. What's more, he's generalizing an entire faith (one that makes up literally a quarter the population of the entire world). It would be as if he said "no more Christians in the country because they might be suicide bombers". It's basically "if you don't believe what I believe, GTFO."

He has described blacks as "lazy" and lamented the fact that they count his money at his casino, and went on to say "The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day". Granted, that's from a second hand account in the book Trumped! but Trump didn't even try to refute it. In response to the book he said that what was written was "probably true" and instead of denying it he just went on to call the author a "fucking loser." He calls most of his critics "fucking losers".

When Megyn Kelly grilled him in an interview over numerous sexist comments he has made in the media he responded by saying "she had blood coming out of her whatever" afterwards. Classy.

I could keep going. The list of shitty things that Trump has said is practically endless. He was sued by the justice department for discrimination. His campaign called Obama a "half breed" and called for a "pure breed" president.

-Byshop

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Let me put it this way, as long as Mr./President-elect Trump doesn't screw up my paycheck, he can do whatever he wants as far as I care.

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@Jaysonguy:

Well he has Putins support

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@Byshop said:

Trump's statement about Mexicans made it sound like the majority of immigrants were rapists, criminals, and drug mules which is absolutely -not- supported by statistics. He frequently makes broad, sweeping negative generalizations about groups who are essentially "not us". Footage I have seen from his rallies is particularly xenophobic.

Carter's Visa ban was a punitive measure against the country of Iran's government over an active hostage crisis in an attempt to secure their release without resorting to military action. It wasn't because Carter assumed that all Iranians were terrorists or because he was afraid they were only coming here to hurt the country, which -is- the reason why Trump wants to ban travel for Muslims. What's more, he's generalizing an entire faith (one that makes up literally a quarter the population of the entire world). It would be as if he said "no more Christians in the country because they might be suicide bombers". It's basically "if you don't believe what I believe, GTFO."

You condemn Trump yet give Carter a free pass for actually stopping people from a country from coming here. Just as you say Trump is generalizing everyone of a faith, Carter generalized everyone from Iran. Surely not every Iranian was involved with the hostage crisis nor did every Iranian openly express Death To America. If anything, I'd say Trump's stance has merit based on modern history. Do you really want to go there?

In regards to your opinions on those he called lazy or criminals, I tend to look at statistics and facts and when I see a very small group of our population disproportionately represented in terms of welfare, crime, etc.., I'm going to make some hard observations rather than ignoring them for fear of offending. When I see a group of people being stopped from entering America or deported after illegally entering, I'm going to call it like I see it. If they aren't criminals, why do we toss their asses out or stop them when they are found crossing the border?

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@Solaryellow said:
@Byshop said:

Trump's statement about Mexicans made it sound like the majority of immigrants were rapists, criminals, and drug mules which is absolutely -not- supported by statistics. He frequently makes broad, sweeping negative generalizations about groups who are essentially "not us". Footage I have seen from his rallies is particularly xenophobic.

Carter's Visa ban was a punitive measure against the country of Iran's government over an active hostage crisis in an attempt to secure their release without resorting to military action. It wasn't because Carter assumed that all Iranians were terrorists or because he was afraid they were only coming here to hurt the country, which -is- the reason why Trump wants to ban travel for Muslims. What's more, he's generalizing an entire faith (one that makes up literally a quarter the population of the entire world). It would be as if he said "no more Christians in the country because they might be suicide bombers". It's basically "if you don't believe what I believe, GTFO."

You condemn Trump yet give Carter a free pass for actually stopping people from a country from coming here. Just as you say Trump is generalizing everyone of a faith, Carter generalized everyone from Iran. Surely not every Iranian was involved with the hostage crisis nor did every Iranian openly express Death To America. If anything, I'd say Trump's stance has merit based on modern history. Do you really want to go there?

In regards to your opinions on those he called lazy or criminals, I tend to look at statistics and facts and when I see a very small group of our population disproportionately represented in terms of welfare, crime, etc.., I'm going to make some hard observations rather than ignoring them for fear of offending. When I see a group of people being stopped from entering America or deported after illegally entering, I'm going to call it like I see it. If they aren't criminals, why do we toss their asses out or stop them when they are found crossing the border?

I thought I was clear, but there's a pretty big difference between blocking travel from a country holding American hostages with which we are on the verge of going to war with and blocking travel from any person from anywhere because of their faith under the assumption that they might be terrorists. Harsh sanctions were literally the last ditch effort to avoid going to war with Iran, as opposed to a xenophobic attitude towards people who happen to believe something different from us.

As for the various racist comments he makes, obviously if you agree with them then there's nothing to discuss. Go Trump.

-Byshop

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@Byshop said:

I thought I was clear, but there's a pretty big difference between blocking travel from a country holding American hostages with which we are on the verge of going to war with and blocking travel from any person from anywhere because of their faith under the assumption that they might be terrorists. Harsh sanctions were literally the last ditch effort to avoid going to war with Iran, as opposed to a xenophobic attitude towards people who happen to believe something different from us.

As for the various racist comments he makes, obviously if you agree with them then there's nothing to discuss. Go Trump.

-Byshop

What you were quite clear about was your hypocrisy. If you can show where trump would stop people of this faith from entering because he hates them rather than all of the terrorism at the hands of these people, I'll agree with you. Carter punished many people for the actions of a few. The left always says "you can't condemn everyone for the actions of a few" but I guess that is applied with great discretion.

As with any conversation, speaking negatively on minorities due to facts always leads to the obligatory racism cries. Should we bury our heads in the sand rather than talking openly about the reality in which we live?

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Have any of you considered that maybe hes putting on a show? When he wins the Republican nomination, he'll turn around and laugh and say. 'See? I said the most insane, fucked up shit and you all supported me!'

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When people start arguing that racism is justified I know that all the typing in the world is not going to get me anywhere. How many of you are left? I thought we had made some progress.

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Donald trump is a conspiracy cooked up by the democrats to make the republican party look like an embarrassment.

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#33  Edited By mark1974
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@speedfreak48t5p: Yet the Republicans don't get it. They love him. Like he said he can say or do anything and his pole numbers won't go down.

All he needs to do is play to their racism and tell republicans it's ok to think that way.

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@mark1974 said:

@speedfreak48t5p: Yet the Republicans don't get it. They love him. Like he said he can say or do anything and his pole numbers won't go down.

All he needs to do is play to their racism and tell republicans it's ok to think that way.

Okay let's be real here, this election is underwhelming this year as it is. I'm not impress with the selections this year at all. I mean, does it really matter who wins at all? Whoever is going to be the next President, things aren't just going to get better at a blink of an eye. From were I stand, I couldn't careless if Trump wins or not, things aren't going to get better whoever wins and fixing stuff takes a very long time. If U.S wants Trump as the next President, then so beat it. Like I said, as long as he doesn't effect my paycheck, I'm okay with this.

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@davillain-: I don't want to see good things that Obama accomplished rolled back. I don't want gay marriage over turned. I want poor people to get healthcare. I want to continue normalizing relations with Cuba. I would like states that have decided to legalize marijuana keep it that way. Etc.

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@davillain-: I don't want to see good things that Obama accomplished rolled back. I don't want gay marriage over turned. I want poor people to get healthcare. I want to continue normalizing relations with Cuba. I would like states that have decided to legalize marijuana keep it that way. Etc.

Have to agree with all that, why pot is still illegal is a shame on the American people and the United States Government. We must make more progress, we cant keep letting them push us back a few steps. Thank god were moving forward though, even if it is just a little right now.

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Doesn't matter who you're paying attention to now, some guy is going to show up in September and win the whole thing.

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#38 Flubbbs
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Daddy Trump has got my vote

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#39 mark1974
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Actually, as bad as Trump is I would much rather see him get the nomination than Cruz. Trump is just a bumbling idiot but Cruz is pure evil.

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I did appreciate this moment Trump had in the last debate. Going against the grain that "Bush kept us safe" is absolutely fantastic.

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@mesome713 said:
@mark1974 said:

@davillain-: I don't want to see good things that Obama accomplished rolled back. I don't want gay marriage over turned. I want poor people to get healthcare. I want to continue normalizing relations with Cuba. I would like states that have decided to legalize marijuana keep it that way. Etc.

Have to agree with all that, why pot is still illegal is a shame on the American people and the United States Government. We must make more progress, we cant keep letting them push us back a few steps. Thank god were moving forward though, even if it is just a little right now.

Agreed. I wish McCain had ran again. I'm a democrat but McCain was one republican that I wouldn't have been bummed if he had gotten into office.

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#42 mark1974
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@Byshop: ok but Sarah Palin would have been dangerously close to running our country. Not acceptable!

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#43  Edited By SolidSnake35
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He's an idiot. I gleaned as much from the Apprentice.

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I literally do not understand how anyone with a functioning brain could actually see Trump as a good presidential candidate...

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@Byshop: ok but Sarah Palin would have been dangerously close to running our country. Not acceptable!

Hahahaha, yeah. With a different running mate, of course.

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I literally do not understand how anyone with a functioning brain could actually see Trump as a good presidential candidate...

I've been reading about his appeal, and the lesson learned appears to be that I misunderstood what authoritarian means. It has less to do with your policies and more to do with how you portray yourself. For example, taking an excerpt from one related article I dug up on a quick search:

"What most fundamentally distinguishes authoritarians, as we explained in detail in our book, are three inter-related sets of attitudes about which they are, collectively, adamant: 1) an especially strong propensity to divide the world into us vs. them and a concomitant intolerance of outgroups perceived as threats to America's existing social fabric; 2) projecting strength in the most straightforward, uncompromising way possible; and 3) the related perils following from the breakdown of law and order."

And if you think about it, you can see these proclivities pretty consistently in the Trump supporters on this board. One of them even states with regularity that he supports Trump and not Sanders specifically because, "Trump is strong and Sanders gets run off the stage by protesters." It's pretty interesting, I think. Some of the research on this stretches back to the 1950s, just after WWII.

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#47  Edited By Solaryellow
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@LostProphetFLCL said:

I literally do not understand how anyone with a functioning brain could actually see Trump as a good presidential candidate...

What candidate does your functioning brain approve of? Is it the evil, lying Klinton or the career politician believing everything should be free since personal responsibility doesn't have a place in society Bernie Sanders? Maybe it is one of the career Republicans with their own follies? Who do you choose?

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@Solaryellow: Lets see who lies more.

Im not to sure, but something tells be Clinton might be a little more truthful.

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@Jaysonguy said:
@Byshop said:
@Jaysonguy said:
@Byshop said:

Yeah, I can understand leaning left or leaning right in terms of political belief but Trump's views are generally very, very racist and ridiculously half-baked. Still, the Republican who eventually gets the candidacy has to be careful not to alienate his followers so they can eventually pick them up themselves.

-Byshop

Racist?

Please go on

Seriously? I honestly don't even know where to begin. He refers to the African American community in the US as "the blacks" and Japanese as "the Japs". He has described Mexican immigrants as rapists. He called for a ban of all Muslim travel to the US and surveillance against mosques. That's just the stuff off the top of my head. Like literally every week he's saying something new that's equally as bad.

-Byshop

He has a proposed ban on Muslims and is called racist. Jimmy Carter banned Iranians and is called a humanitarian. So which one is it? Is Carter now racist or are people just anti Trump?

Facepalm. We were on the verge of war with Iran as they had taken over our embassies. And he was banning those who had Iranian passport, if you were Iranian but held a different passport then you would be allowed in. Where as he is proposing ban on all Muslims which means countries where we have friendly relationships and diplomatic ties with, that we are not at "war with" or on the "brink of war with". For crying out load this is simple logic.

Should we ban Canadian Muslims?

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@Solaryellow said:
@LostProphetFLCL said:

I literally do not understand how anyone with a functioning brain could actually see Trump as a good presidential candidate...

What candidate does your functioning brain approve of? Is it the evil, lying Klinton or the career politician believing everything should be free since personal responsibility doesn't have a place in society Bernie Sanders? Maybe it is one of the career Republicans with their own follies? Who do you choose?

Sanders as his ideas are what would best help this country and it's abhorred social inequality. Clinton will get my vote ifs she takes the nom though. The misfits the GOP has put forward as potential candidates aren't fit to run a McDonalds let alone a country.