Of course I do. Why should the Capitals not be penalised for something when every other team in the league would be? Just because they have Ovie doesn't mean they should be exempt from penalties! :x
Of course I do. Why should the Capitals not be penalised for something when every other team in the league would be? Just because they have Ovie doesn't mean they should be exempt from penalties! :xxTheExploited
I agree :lol: but this is about the death penalty, not hockey.
Capitol punishment isn't much of a deterrent, but at least there is solace in knowing people who have brought nothing but pain, suffering and death into this world no longer have the chance to do so again.
Not primarily because it can be expensive and not efficient (as far as crime rates go); I dont like it, I find it extreme and unfit for civilised societies.
Nope. Its a barbaric relic of what should be a distant past, except it is still practiced. I liken it akin to witchcrarft; or the solution thereof, the solution is just as flawed as the reasoning behind the need for the punishment.
As the people who argue on behalf of the families who have been traumatised by some &*%insert some words here *&^%$, that nevertheless doesn't justify such a degration of both the victim the the perpetrator's families. No-one benefits, but an ancient, barbaric yearning is catered for. To me, the whole process is dirty and not fitting in this modern age.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]No. Justice should be restitutionary. Calvin079
What about those that refuse to be changed? What abouth those repeat offenders? I think the chair or gas chamber ought to be for them. I'm not opposed to jails to lock up murderers and the like (though I am entirely opposed to corrupt prison bureaucracy in the US). Killing a repeat offender does nothing. Restitution makes sure that whatever he did, he's responsible for, financially and otherwise. Restitution is also reversible, if an innocent man was accused. Innocent people get executed every day. Not to mention there's no proof whatsoever that capital punishment is a crime deterrent.
Not really. Is the jail system designed to punish to or simply separate criminals from the general population? Being that I hold more to the latter, I do not believe death is the most viable option. As far as due punishment, I believe God will give it as he sees fit.
I would say yes if the process was more effective cost-wise. Until that happens, I'm going to have to say no. There are just some monsters... that I'm not comfortable in letting them live, even in prison.
I think that criminals should actually be forced to do something constructive rather than waste tax payers money so no, I dont really support Capital Punishment
I'm for capital punishment. I wish we could do something to speed up the appeals process. I'm not saying there shouldn't be appeals, but they don't need to go on and on and on for twenty years.
I would say yes if the process was more effective cost-wise. Until that happens, I'm going to have to say no. There are just some monsters... that I'm not comfortable in letting them live, even in prison.SeraphimGoddess
Yeah, cause it's awesome to hurry things up, especially when dealing with somebody's life. It's not as if there have ever been mishaps with the death penalty.
[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]I would say yes if the process was more effective cost-wise. Until that happens, I'm going to have to say no. There are just some monsters... that I'm not comfortable in letting them live, even in prison.SgtKevali
Yeah, cause it's awesome to hurry things up, especially when dealing with somebody's life. It's not as if there have ever been mishaps with the death penalty.
Lol excactly.
Actually, its tragic. So unfair and unjust, thats just the process. Seems that in the US, at least, the poor, the uneducated and minorities tend to be the vctims of this injust system.
[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]I would say yes if the process was more effective cost-wise. Until that happens, I'm going to have to say no. There are just some monsters... that I'm not comfortable in letting them live, even in prison.SgtKevali
Yeah, cause it's awesome to hurry things up, especially when dealing with somebody's life. It's not as if there have ever been mishaps with the death penalty.
You're assuming I want to bullrush this.
Lol excactly.
Actually, its tragic. So unfair and unjust, thats just the process. Seems that in the US, at least, the poor, the uneducated and minorities tend to be the vctims of this injust system.
spacedog1973
It's naive to think unjust things like that happen solely in America.
I also think some sort of judicial corporal punishment should be experimented with too, and keep prison for people who have been accused of sexual offenses, murder, assault, and so on. Basically, save prison for people we are better off being seperated from, while on the other hand, maybe someone who is convicted of petty theft numerous times could be caned instead.
If the Justice System were perfect, and it was absolutely impossible for an innocent person to ever be falsely convicted of a crime, then I wouldn't have a problem with Capital Punishment.
If the Justice System were perfect, and it was absolutely impossible for an innocent person to ever be falsely convicted of a crime, then I wouldn't have a problem with Capital Punishment.
Until that time, I am against it.
swamprat_basic
I don't think they murder people if they aren't sure that they did the crime.
If the Justice System were perfect, and it was absolutely impossible for an innocent person to ever be falsely convicted of a crime, then I wouldn't have a problem with Capital Punishment.
Until that time, I am against it.
MuddVader
I don't think they murder people if they aren't sure that they did the crime.
So I'm sure there have never been cases of false execution, right.
If the Justice System were perfect, and it was absolutely impossible for an innocent person to ever be falsely convicted of a crime, then I wouldn't have a problem with Capital Punishment.
Until that time, I am against it.
MuddVader
I don't think they murder people if they aren't sure that they did the crime.
There have been at least15 people released from Death Row in the United States because of DNA testing. Now imagine all of the cases where there is no DNA to be tested, or the people who were executed before DNA testing.
People have been wrongfully executed in the past:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution
If the Justice System were perfect, and it was absolutely impossible for an innocent person to ever be falsely convicted of a crime, then I wouldn't have a problem with Capital Punishment.
Until that time, I am against it.
swamprat_basic
I don't think they murder people if they aren't sure that they did the crime.
There have been at least15 people released from Death Row in the United States because of DNA testing. Now imagine all of the cases where there is no DNA to be tested, or the people who were executed before DNA testing.
People have been wrongfully executed in the past:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution
I think that says something about the entire system; not just the process of executions, kinda like you said. Well, then perhaps we need to work on that before we even tackle this subject.
[QUOTE="MuddVader"] I don't think they murder people if they aren't sure that they did the crime.SeraphimGoddess
There have been at least15 people released from Death Row in the United States because of DNA testing. Now imagine all of the cases where there is no DNA to be tested, or the people who were executed before DNA testing.
People have been wrongfully executed in the past:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution
I think that says something about the entire system; not just the process of executions. Yes, but you can be released from prison if proven innocent; you can't be brought back from the dead.
Its not hard to limit executions to people whom have solid and irrefutable evidence against them.
MuddVader
You're not even supposed to be convicted of a crime if there is any reasonable doubt that you might be innocent, yet innocent people are released from prison all the time. There are too many factors at play in a trial for there to be any irreversible punishments like execution. There's whether you can afford a worthwhile attorney, there's the biases of the jury, the bias of the judge, etc. I am not against Capital Punishment on principle, but until we have a system that leaves absolutely zero room for doubt, I can't support it in practice.
... No.. On a fiscally conservative level it costs more to execute them then it does to house them for life, due to how our justice system is set up to have the right to appeals.. Its not a deterrent, and it doesn't solve anything in the end.. The victim or victims are still dead.. All it is used for is to sate some petty idea of revenge, which our justice system is not about. The only positive thing I can say about it is it can be used to force plea bargains for lesser sentences..
I tend to agree with you Cal. I think capital punishment should be reserved for those who have committed the worst of the worst crimes, and where there is either 100% irrefutable evidence, or the accused actually pleads guilty.
Its COWARDly to get death instead of suffering no? Wouldnt you want these convicts to take the harsh punishment instead of taking the COWARDly way out? Capital Punishment FTW
you found guilty 100% forsure and you recieve the death penity and you spend 20 years in prision
why?
your waste of fooda homeless man who hasn't done nothing could have
just saying
if i had it my way. if you been in jail for more then 10 years or show 0 chance of improvment of doing good in the world you should be killed
and i think every person in jail should be force to work or killed. every person who pays taxes to feed people who do nothiong good for the world.i travel like 3 times a year and every where i go i see trash on side olf road and every where else put those fools to work
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