EMP bomb would destroy civilization as we know it

Do terrorists not know this? The effects of large EMP wave would be exponentially more damaging than flying planes into a few buildings

Do terrorists not know this? The effects of large EMP wave would be exponentially more damaging than flying planes into a few buildings

LiftedHeadshot

Can you make an EMP?

Quick,tell them!MonsieurX

But EMPs only last 60 seconds and a lot of people use Assassin Pro so the EMP would be useless.

I don't know that much about electromagnetic pulses... But aren't they, for now, pretty much unreasonable for a terrorist attack?

Isn't the only way to create a large EMP by using a nuclear bomb, and then something about the power and where the bomb is detonated need to be taken into account, and even then a lot of electronics in the effected area would only be temporarily messed up?

edit: I hate when I'm the only one who makes an unhumorous response D:

I don't know that much about electromagnetic pulses... But aren't they, for now, pretty much unreasonable for a terrorist attack?

Isn't the only way to create a large EMP by using a nuclear bomb, and then something about the power and where the bomb is detonated need to be taken into account, and even then a lot of electronics in the effected area would only be temporarily messed up?

IcyToasters

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I don't know that much about electromagnetic pulses... But aren't they, for now, pretty much unreasonable for a terrorist attack?

Isn't the only way to create a large EMP by using a nuclear bomb, and then something about the power and where the bomb is detonated need to be taken into account, and even then a lot of electronics in the effected area would only be temporarily messed up?

Nibroc420

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[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

I don't know that much about electromagnetic pulses... But aren't they, for now, pretty much unreasonable for a terrorist attack?

Isn't the only way to create a large EMP by using a nuclear bomb, and then something about the power and where the bomb is detonated need to be taken into account, and even then a lot of electronics in the effected area would only be temporarily messed up?

xaos

Maybe for you or me.

I'm sure someone who knows and understands such devices would simply have trouble collecting the right materials.

Emp's can destroy electronics, so i think you mean "Not working and have to be replaced"

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Emp's can destroy electronics, so i think you mean "Not working and have to be replaced"

Nibroc420

Maybe for you or me.

I'm sure someone who knows and understands such devices would simply have trouble collecting the right materials.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] One powerful enough to do this over any significant area would be exceedingly difficult to produce; also, for the bulk of the affected area, only currently active electronics would be affected. Only devices relatively close to the source would get enough induced current to cause problems in powered-down widgets.BranKetra

Maybe for you or me.

I'm sure someone who knows and understands such devices would simply have trouble collecting the right materials.

An EMP bomb couldn't destroy civilization as we know it, a few might but not just one.

From what I heard, read and learned about EMPs it is possiable. There are 2 types of EMPs, nuclear and non nuclear. For Nuclear you need an a nuclear bomb, for non nuclear there are alot of different ways to varing degrees of efficentcy.

I remember reading about a bomb that was non nuclear that created an EMP, but the problem with EMPs is earth's magnetic field. Due to how strong earths magnetic field is it limits how far the EMP will travel. If you want an EMP to take out lets say the USA you would need to denonate it at about 300 miles up. If I remember that was for a nuclear EMP, don't know about how high a non nuclear EMP would have to be.

With a nuclear EMP the yield of the nuclear weapon isn't as important as how high it is denonated. Something about the increase of the explosive yield isn't equal to the EMP created, I remember. If I get some free time I might look more up on this.

An EMP attack would be rather effective, the data loss alone would be crushing, let alove the fact most if not all eletronics wouldn't work.

I thought EMP bombs only affect active electronic devices. Devices that are turned off shouldn't be affected, right?

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Quick,tell them!Communist_Soul

But EMPs only last 60 seconds and a lot of people use Assassin Pro so the EMP would be useless.

Do you understand that the only effective, large-scale EMP blast comes from nukes?

I would welcome an EMP bomb to society.

It would be incredibly inefficient. HEMPs are currently the only piece of equipment that would have a devestating effect and for terrorists to not only have a powerful nuclear device but also the knowledge required to properly use it as a HEMP is unlikely.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Emp's can destroy electronics, so i think you mean "Not working and have to be replaced"

Nibroc420

Maybe for you or me.

I'm sure someone who knows and understands such devices would simply have trouble collecting the right materials.

I think OT as a collective needs to take some courses on electronics. and electromagnetic physics, maybe some quantum mechanics wouldnt hurt. there seems to be a gross amount of misinformation in this thread. which im sure is perpetuated by call of duty.

For an effective EMP, you need 2 things

-A specially made nuclear bomb, meant to get maximum EM waves

-A delivery method to get said bomb to exact altitude so EM wave bounce off atmosphere.

Terrorist have some diffulculy achieving those

I think OT as a collective needs to take some courses on electronics. and electromagnetic physics, maybe some quantum mechanics wouldnt hurt. there seems to be a gross amount of misinformation in this thread. which im sure is perpetuated by call of duty.

blackacidevil96

You're telling me hiding behind a wall won't heal gunshot wounds?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] One powerful enough to do this over any significant area would be exceedingly difficult to produce; also, for the bulk of the affected area, only currently active electronics would be affected. Only devices relatively close to the source would get enough induced current to cause problems in powered-down widgets.xaos

Maybe for you or me.

I'm sure someone who knows and understands such devices would simply have trouble collecting the right materials.

[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]

I think OT as a collective needs to take some courses on electronics. and electromagnetic physics, maybe some quantum mechanics wouldnt hurt. there seems to be a gross amount of misinformation in this thread. which im sure is perpetuated by call of duty.

THE_DRUGGIE

You're telling me hiding behind a wall won't heal gunshot wounds?

Obviously you're joking, but I have met kids who seriously think troops in the military get promoted based on how many people they kill and have no idea that you need to zero a weapon to shoot with some type of decent accuracy and just picking it up and shooting doesn't work too well for distance shots.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]

I think OT as a collective needs to take some courses on electronics. and electromagnetic physics, maybe some quantum mechanics wouldnt hurt. there seems to be a gross amount of misinformation in this thread. which im sure is perpetuated by call of duty.

ad1x2

You're telling me hiding behind a wall won't heal gunshot wounds?

Obviously you're joking

Why would I joke about that?

Do you understand that the only effective, large-scale EMP blast comes from nukes?

Wasdie

Well according to Call of Duty and Battlefield 3, everybody and their mother has nukes just all over the place waiting to be used, so I guess I can understand where the question comes from.

I think OT as a collective needs to take some courses on electronics. and electromagnetic physics, maybe some quantum mechanics wouldnt hurt. there seems to be a gross amount of misinformation in this thread.

blackacidevil96

emp is useless if its on ground level, if they manage to get the blast from 10'000 feet onwards the effect will be bigger. And no its not the end of civilization, we manage to survive for 8000 years without electronics.

If you managed to develop a nuclear bomb that could produce a strong enough EMP to stone-age the entire planet, you wouldn't need the EMP effect to destroy civilization.

Be a lot easier to just get a bunch of explosives with timers and set them on the towers for all the transmission lines leading out of various power plants. I'm sure it would take a while to fix all that damage.

One powerful enough to do this over any significant area would be exceedingly difficult to produce; also, for the bulk of the affected area, only currently active electronics would be affected. Only devices relatively close to the source would get enough induced current to cause problems in powered-down widgets.xaos

Maybe for you or me.

I'm sure someone who knows and understands such devices would simply have trouble collecting the right materials.

What about civilization as we don't know it? Would that survive? I'm thinking mole people. Possibly with hard hats. Maybe even those little miners' lamps to go with.

If you set them off in the atmosphere, the emp can be pretty big. However, I think they better keep it very very very secret that they did it or they better do it to every super power in the world, cause I really doubt anyone wouldn't retaliate, for fearing they themselves would be next. But it would definitly sting whichever country it did hit.

If you set them off in the atmosphere, the emp can be pretty big. However, I think they better keep it very very very secret that they did it or they better do it to every super power in the world, cause I really doubt anyone wouldn't retaliate, for fearing they themselves would be next. But it would definitly sting whichever country it did hit.

Morphic

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Quick,tell them!Communist_Soul

But EMPs only last 60 seconds and a lot of people use Assassin Pro so the EMP would be useless.

Plus they need a 15 kill streak and those darned terrorists always use martyrdom and die as soon as they get any kills.

Didn't they use this as a basis for a TV show starring Jessica Alba?Yagr_Zero

Yeah, it's not like the military has had protection against something as outlandish as an large-scale EMP attack for years, or that it has passed on that protection to power stations and the like...or that thing like backups exist

Didn't they use this as a basis for a TV show starring Jessica Alba?Yagr_Zero

I know it served as a basis for a hilariously inaccurate book where the entirity of North America is brought to its knees by a whopping THREE EMP "explosions", and around 90% of the population is dead a few years later.

Didn't they use this as a basis for a TV show starring Jessica Alba?Yagr_Zero

Yes. I believe it was called Dark Angel. It was pretty, alright.