England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
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England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
We give a considerable amount of money to the EU.
For example, most countries take about £100million for fishing purposes, Spain take £1000million.
So im not being naive, it is the FACTS!
England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
Who gives a crap? Yeh, good argument,I don't know. Do we need the EU? The last attempt at creating a united European power block didn't go too well. :(
I don't know. Do we need the EU? The last attempt at creating a European superblock didn't go too well. :(jimmyjammer69Because a racial empire under Adolf Hitler = a peaceful union of nations.
[QUOTE="linkthewindow"]England isn't a country.Doctor-McNinjaYes it is. No it's not, it's a region within a country. I'm getting so sick of people refering to the entire country as England, I'm looking at you Americans.
[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"][QUOTE="linkthewindow"]England isn't a country.MushroomWigYes it is. No it's not, it's a region within a country. I'm getting so sick of people refering to the entire country as England, I'm looking at you Americans. You want to produce a single knowledgeable link which says as much? England is a country.
[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"][QUOTE="linkthewindow"]England isn't a country.MushroomWigYes it is. No it's not, it's a region within a country. I'm getting so sick of people refering to the entire country as England, I'm looking at you Americans.Then look elsewhere, most of us call it the UK unless we are talking about England itself.
[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] No it's not, it's a region within a country. I'm getting so sick of people refering to the entire country as England, I'm looking at you Americans.MushroomWigYou want to produce a single knowledgeable link which says as much? England is a country. Lol no it's not. That would be like calling Ohio a country.LOL yes it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England
Just looking at my geography textbook right now: "The United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy composed of four constituent countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland." And that ends that. Doctor-McNinja/ thread. England is a country. But is just one of a union.
[QUOTE="MushroomWig"] No it's not, it's a region within a country. I'm getting so sick of people refering to the entire country as England, I'm looking at you Americans.Doctor-McNinjaThen why does the charter which made the United Kingdom refer to 'this union of countries' and why does the government refer to England as 'the only COUNTRY in the united kingdom which failed to meet the year's cancer treatment target' ? England is a country, Wales is a country. The UK is a union of countries as stated by the charter.
Quote Wikipedia "The United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy and unitary state consisting of four countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales."
And like all internet-based arguments, things go suddenly quiet when the irrefutable links arrive. :P
There is no shame in admitting you are wrong.And like all internet-based arguments, things go suddenly quiet when the irrefutable links arrive. :P
Doctor-McNinja
[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"][QUOTE="linkthewindow"]England isn't a country.MushroomWigYes it is. No it's not, it's a region within a country. I'm getting so sick of people refering to the entire country as England, I'm looking at you Americans.
Don't hint at Americans being dumb for getting something correct =D.
English people themselves refer to England as a country, which it is.
So then why doesn't the UK just be sneaky at say...international football and make a UK national football team, more people = more options. I know they do it with the olympic team >__> cheaters....but why not be consistent? The majority of the world sees England as a country and btw I know some people hate it in the UK but you too are part of Europe, quit trying to break away from it.
Of all the countries in the EU, the UK maintains a good portion of it autonomy. Britain has always been an independent nation with a strong culture and heritage. I think there is a push from a lot of countries in the EU to sort of consolidate/assimilate and I've seen that the UK has resisted that. I dont think they should leave the EU, but I do think they should continue to maintain their separate identity.
Nothing wrong with that all. IF you have excess wealth.. share it! Anyways it's only a matter of time before the European Empire rises up and clashes with the American Empire.England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
hancekyle
yea im sure the UK is doing charity all over the world and giving 99.9999999% of "YOUR" money to poorer countries. i mean come on you cant be this naive.GazaAli
this man is smart listen to him
america was stupid to borrow money from china to pay for other countries to prosper well have they prospered yet?????
fricking 14 trillion and still going strong
Not that what an American thinks is important here....but I think they should. Better for the country. Course we could start a new union....English speaking only. We'll combine NFL football with...football and take over the world. That gives us UK, US, Australia, and Canada, Ireland as the big 5.:P
This England is/isn't a country argument amuses me.
Oleg_Huzwog
I think that was Churchill's dream. :)Not that what an American thinks is important here....but I think they should. Better for the country. Course we could start a new union....English speaking only. We'll combine NFL football with...football and take over the world. That gives us UK, US, Australia, and Canada, Ireland as the big 5.:P
LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I think that was Churchill's dream. :) A man ahead of his time......:oNot that what an American thinks is important here....but I think they should. Better for the country. Course we could start a new union....English speaking only. We'll combine NFL football with...football and take over the world. That gives us UK, US, Australia, and Canada, Ireland as the big 5.:P
sonicare
Yeah, unless a miracle happens and the BNP wind up in power, don't hold your breath. Also, I give a crap, kthx.England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
hancekyle
[QUOTE="hancekyle"]Yeah, unless a miracle happens and the BNP wind up in power, don't hold your breath. Also, I give a crap, kthx. Aren't the conservatives against EU thoe aswell?England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
T_P_O
[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="hancekyle"]Yeah, unless a miracle happens and the BNP wind up in power, don't hold your breath. Also, I give a crap, kthx. Aren't the conservatives against EU thoe aswell?England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
RiseAgainst12
The Conservatives are mostly 'Euroskeptics' now, and even then the leadership is trying to tone that down.
[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="hancekyle"]Yeah, unless a miracle happens and the BNP wind up in power, don't hold your breath. Also, I give a crap, kthx. Aren't the conservatives against EU thoe aswell? You have a euroskeptic wing of the party, but those were mostly silenced in Major's premiership and are in a minority. Cameron never will do anything risky like to say he's pulling Britain out of the EU.England/Britain/UK SHOULD leave the EU !!
Lots our tax money is going to over countries that are "poorer" than us, Who gives a crap.
I want to keep our money!!!
RiseAgainst12
[QUOTE="T_P_O"] You have a euroskeptic wing of the party, but those were mostly silenced in Major's premiership and are in a minority. Cameron never will do anything risky like to say he's pulling Britain out of the EU. Ah i see. I just remember Cameron making a big fuss about lisbon and how the conservatives would ratify it if they got the chance.The Conservatives are mostly 'Euroskeptics' now, and even then the leadership is trying to tone that down.
ganon92
You might be able to save on some tax money, but a lot of things will become worse. Those french wines, dutch cheese, german/italian cars etc. will become more expensive, your holiday to europe will be less smooth etc. You could already see the advantage of the collective in the crisis. The pound dropped pretty much 50% I think compared to the euro. When you leave the EU, more things happen than just saving some money. I just think a lot of people that are in favour of leaving the EU don't realize that.
[QUOTE="ganon92"]The Conservatives are mostly 'Euroskeptics' now, and even then the leadership is trying to tone that down.
RiseAgainst12
You have a euroskeptic wing of the party, but those were mostly silenced in Major's premiership and are in a minority. Cameron never will do anything risky like to say he's pulling Britain out of the EU.T_P_OAh i see. I just remember Cameron making a big fuss about lisbon and how the conservatives would ratify it if they got the chance.
Cameron had a look at what Britain gains by being member of that club ,he might be all talk and no substance but our boy Cam isn't stupid.
Without the EU our economy would fail, the free movement of people, work and goods is a good thing. Doctor-McNinja
I concur. The United Kingdom by itself will hardly be able to stand amongst the United States, Russia and China as well. By being part of the European Union, the United Kingdom still has a chance of providing political, economic and social influence in the world.
have a referendum, let it go to the people and let them decide there fate. It what the Irish did. Put the power where it belongs, in the hands of the people.
England isn't a country. Unless you want it to seceed from the UK. And although I'm not European, the EU isn't exactly a bad thing. Free movement of people/goods/services without tax is a good thing (so I guess you're saving money there,) as is the decreased chance of war within an EU framework (which was exactly why the EEC was created in the first place - to tie France and Germany together to prevent more hosilities. There's also the element of judicial and political cooperation which streamlines things. And, hey, it's not like most of Eastern Europe joined the EU as soon as they could, but I guess that's to steal English money (as it's not like they've screwed over the Eastern Europeans before or anything.) [QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]I don't know. Do we need the EU? The last attempt at creating a European superblock didn't go too well. :(linkthewindowBecause a racial empire under Adolf Hitler = a peaceful union of nations.
Great post. I applaud you.
[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"][QUOTE="linkthewindow"]England isn't a country.MushroomWigYes it is. No it's not, it's a region within a country. I'm getting so sick of people refering to the entire country as England, I'm looking at you Americans.
The topic was started by a British dude just to let you know.
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