EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration.

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#1 loco145
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EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact.

Producers of bottled water are now forbidden by law from making the claim and will face a two-year jail sentence if they defy the edict, which comes into force in the UK next month.

Last night, critics claimed the EU was at odds with both science and common sense. Conservative MEP Roger Helmer said: "This is stupidity writ large.

Source.

Lol.

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#2 achilles614
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Now I've heard it all. Seriously this elicits a giant W T F from me.
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#3 branketra
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They can say water deals with current dehydration.

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#4 THE_DRUGGIE
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Next thing you know, pizza will be a vegetable or something.

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#5 QuistisTrepe_
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And people think America is dumb?

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#6 LJS9502_basic
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:lol: Wonder how much that study cost....
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#7 cybrcatter
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I want to believe that I missed something in the article, or that its author intentionally omitted an import piece of information.
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#8 Kelayr
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I don't know what's the bigger fail here - the EU's complete and utter lack of common sense or the fact that they spent three years mulling over common sense. As if they have nothing better to do with their time.
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#9 shinian
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Now I've heard it all. Seriously this elicits a giant W T F from me.achilles614
It's typical for EU. I bet there was some kind of big agenda behind this. Last year EU concluded that slime is a type of fish so France could export more of them at lower prices without breaking EU trade agreements. Democracy at its finest.
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#10 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="shinian"] It's typical for EU. I bet there was some kind of big agenda behind this. Last year EU concluded that slime is a type of fish so France could export more of them at lower prices without breaking EU trade agreements. Democracy at its finest.

What exactly are they using slime for that it needs exported?
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#11 leviathan91
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And the Europeans call us stupid... :roll:

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#12 JML897
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I want to know what started this investigation in the first place.
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#13 Inconsistancy
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Haven't some governments sorta/tried to ban h2o when some people used less common descriptions for it's name, like dihydrogen monoxide with the intent of fooling them?

I'm really not surprised when governments do absolutely stupid things, that's what they're made of after all, stupid people.

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#14 shinian
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="shinian"] It's typical for EU. I bet there was some kind of big agenda behind this. Last year EU concluded that slime is a type of fish so France could export more of them at lower prices without breaking EU trade agreements. Democracy at its finest.

What exactly are they using slime for that it needs exported?

Sorry for that I was thinking about snail
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#15 markop2003
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Dosn't it make more sense to follow the scientists on this rather than politicians?

Wiki article: "Drinking water without replenishing electrolytes may instead lead to developing hypotonic dehydration.".

Emedicine: "Hyponatremic (hypotonic) dehydration occurs when the lost fluid contains more sodium than the blood (loss of hypertonic fluid). Relatively more sodium than water is lost. Because the serum sodium is low, intravascular water shifts to the extravascular space, exaggerating intravascular volume depletion for a given amount of total body water loss."

Seems like a the scientists are right on this.

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uh..I'm pretty sure every 3 year old in the world will say that that is bs. I mean its taught in every classroom in the world that water is needed in your body to prevent dehydration since your body is 70% water. Hundreds of study's have also concluded that water has very positive effects on the human body. The EU really need to introduce a 'common sense' law.
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#17 deactivated-58a5e8ead9efe
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First, pizza is now a vegetable. And now water can't prevent dehydration? :lol:

Should crimes against common sense be a capital offense?

I think so.

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Un-f***ing-believable.

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:lol: It's typical for the EU, they live to highlight the pernickety semantics in life, but just think - all the people of Europe can sleep soundly at night now knowing that bottled water companies can no longer falsely claim magical powers of dehydration prevention on their labels!...If they manage to forget for a while that every European country is on the brink of economic collapse and their very livelihoods are all at stake, of course.

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#20 SplatterDuck
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love the americans taking the reason behind the ban seriously:lol:
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#21 NiKva
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Water can't prevent dehydration, it can only cure it.
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#22 LJS9502_basic
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Water can't prevent dehydration, it can only cure it.NiKva
Well if you keep hydrated with water....you won't have dehydration.
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#23 NiKva
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[QUOTE="NiKva"]Water can't prevent dehydration, it can only cure it.LJS9502_basic
Well if you keep hydrated with water....you won't have dehydration.

Oh that's right /leaves
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#24 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Water can't prevent dehydration, it can only cure it.NiKva

Is this a serious response?

You don't get dehydrated if you're drinking water. Come on, man.

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I want to believe that I missed something in the article, or that its author intentionally omitted an import piece of information. cybrcatter

Prof Brian Ratcliffe, spokesman for the Nutrition Society, said dehydration was usually caused by a clinical condition and that one could remain adequately hydrated without drinking water.

He said: "The EU is saying that this does not reduce the risk of dehydration and that is correct.

"This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim."

So it's more an issue of the bottled water producers making what amounts to only a semi-accurate medical claim (ie obviously drinking water hydrates, but it isn't the be-all end-all solution to dehydration) than the EU actually saying "hurr durr drinking water doesn't hydrate". Still kinda ridiculous, but so is wanting to slap "drinking water helps prevent dehydration" on a bottle of water as a selling point.

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#26 yagr_zero
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Next thing you know, pizza will be a vegetable or something.

THE_DRUGGIE
Although I think this is a tad bit worse. Pizzas do contain tomato sauce after all. :P
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[QUOTE="NiKva"]Water can't prevent dehydration, it can only cure it.airshocker

Is this a serious response?

You don't get dehydrated if you're drinking water. Come on, man.

I just heard Keyshawn Johnson in my head saying that. LOL.

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#28 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Next thing you know, pizza will be a vegetable or something.

Yagr_Zero

Although I think this is a tad bit worse. Pizzas do contain tomato sauce after all. :P

One needs to remember that tomatos are a fruit and not a vegetable.

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Dosn't it make more sense to follow the scientists on this rather than politicians?

Wiki article: "Drinking water without replenishing electrolytes may instead lead to developing hypotonic dehydration.".

Emedicine: "Hyponatremic (hypotonic) dehydration occurs when the lost fluid contains more sodium than the blood (loss of hypertonic fluid). Relatively more sodium than water is lost. Because the serum sodium is low, intravascular water shifts to the extravascular space, exaggerating intravascular volume depletion for a given amount of total body water loss."

Seems like a the scientists are right on this.

markop2003
Get people to understand that... Good luck...
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#30 yagr_zero
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One needs to remember that tomatos are a fruit and not a vegetable.

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Ah, but a tomato is considered a vegetable in the same way rice is considered a grain. Botanically, tomatoes and rice are both fruit.
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#31 fooZar777
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This makes perfect logical sense. Clearly blown out of proportion by rallying eurosceptics and americans that just need to feel less ashamed of their own laws.

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water preventing dehydration? sounds like witchcraft to me.
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This is stupid because the claim is that water can prevent dehydration. And it can. Just not always by itself.
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#34 Palantas
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This is stupid because the claim is that water can prevent dehydration. And it can. Just not always by itself.CammiTac

It's kinda like banning the claim that food prevents starvation, because any given food might not have everything the body needs.

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#35 M4Ntan
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about time, give me one example of research that proves water can actually prevent dehydration. It was all just a massive advertisement campaign by water bottle companies and you all fell for it.

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#36 The_Last_Ride
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Next thing you know, pizza will be a vegetable or something.

THE_DRUGGIE
too late, already happened dude :P
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#37 Shadowchronicle
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Next thing you know, pizza will be a vegetable or something.

THE_DRUGGIE
And it already is!:o
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I want to believe that I missed something in the article, or that its author intentionally omitted an import piece of information. cybrcatter
The only possible nuance I saw was near the end of the article, where an official stated that producers of bottled water were trying to claim that their product was somehow better than un-bottled water. But if that's the notion the Commission meant to address, their edict is obviously too broad.
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#39 MobilechicaneX
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Next up: Gravity doesn't Hold you on the Ground, and Food doesn't stop you from being Hungry.

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#40 SplatterDuck
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Next up: Gravity doesn't Hold you on the Ground, and Food doesn't stop you from being Hungry.

MobilechicaneX

Hold on a minute,ive eaten food before and have still been hungry afterwards:x

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uh..I'm pretty sure every 3 year old in the world will say that that is bs. I mean its taught in every classroom in the world that water is needed in your body to prevent dehydration since your body is 70% water. Hundreds of study's have also concluded that water has very positive effects on the human body. The EU really need to introduce a 'common sense' law.DeX2010
That's the thing with science...

Common sense may be a reasonable jumping off point, but you have to be prepared to deal with results that run completely contrar to something you'd assumed was already well understood.

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#42 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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That's the thing with science...

Common sense may be a reasonable jumping off point, but you have to be prepared to deal with results that run completely contrar to something you'd assumed was already well understood.

BuryMe

What has science disproven concerning waters ability to hydrate the human body?

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#43 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

That's the thing with science...

Common sense may be a reasonable jumping off point, but you have to be prepared to deal with results that run completely contrar to something you'd assumed was already well understood.

airshocker

What has science disproven concerning waters ability to hydrate the human body?

Sorry, That was more a gripe with people complaining about scientific findings in general than this specific case.

I often come acros people finding out something they don't like, and then argue "Common sense tells you it should really be this way." Well sorry, science isn't limited to common sense. Look up superfluids to get an example of what I mean.

As for this story, I don't know exactly what they found in their study. But as a user here aready pointed out, water alone may not be enough to keep you hydrated.

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#44 Ninja-Hippo
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OT takes the bait far too easily with sensationalist headlines; A big company applied for permission to use this line on their water bottles - '"regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration" The EU said no, as it is not a true statement. The development of dehydration is tied to diabetes and several other very common diseases, and drinking lots of water will do literally nothing to alleviate this problem. Seeing as there are literally millions of diabetics and others suffering from other diseases which include dehydration as a symptom, the EU could not allow a company to advertise its product as being able to fight dehydration when, for many millions of people, it would be of no help and would therefore be a misleading statement. Drinking large amounts of water when suffering from dehydration which is the result of an illness or medical condition will actually make the problem WORSE, not better. Fair enough, no?
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#45 Vesica_Prime
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Jesus every 3 year old and his dog knows that water prevents thirst which is dehydration. This is more idiotic than the American pizza is a vegetable thing.