It annoys me when people say that they don't believe in evolution.
IT'S SCIENTIFIC FACT!
Saying that you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe in atoms.
STOP LETTING THE FALSE CONCEPT OF A GOD BLIND YOU FROM WHAT IS OBVIOUS!Â
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It annoys me when people say that they don't believe in evolution.
IT'S SCIENTIFIC FACT!
Saying that you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe in atoms.
STOP LETTING THE FALSE CONCEPT OF A GOD BLIND YOU FROM WHAT IS OBVIOUS!Â
[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?JayMatthews06
Fossils?
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Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.Â
many scientists dont believe it i believe you need a chat with igodIt annoys me when people say that they don't believe in evolution.
IT'S SCIENTIFIC FACT!
Saying that you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe in atoms.
STOP LETTING THE FALSE CONCEPT OF A GOD BLIND YOU FROM WHAT IS OBVIOUS!Â
JayMatthews06
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?jfkunrendered
Fossils?
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Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
Fossils contain the remains of animals and plants from thousands of years ago, and they are buried within rocks. Amongst the oldest rocks are imprints of very basic life forms, while more recent rocks contain imprints of more complex life forms. This is just ONE proof of evolution.
Anyone who fails to accept evolution as fact is either in denial or just ignorant.Â
Evolution can't disprove God or any other deity in any way. One could simply say, in the case of evolution that "it was God making modifications himself". Or they could go right back and say "God started the big bang" or whatever. I do not believe in any god myself, but I do not rule out the possibility because no amount of scientific proof can completely prove the existence of God wrong.EJ902
I'm not disproving God - I'm proving evolution.
I just don't believe in God.Â
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?jfkunrendered
Fossils?
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Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
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There are no such things as "transitional forms".
It's all one long line, it's not like stepping stones.
[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?JayMatthews06
Fossils?
Â
Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
Fossils contain the remains of animals and plants from thousands of years ago, and they are buried within rocks. Amongst the oldest rocks are imprints of very basic life forms, while more recent rocks contain imprints of more complex life forms. This is just ONE proof of evolution.
Anyone who fails to accept evolution as fact is either in denial or just ignorant.
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That doesnt prove anything to me, sorry. And I think it was Darwin that said if we never find transitional forms, our whole belief fails. That is correct, right sir?Â
I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
darkmaster578
That comment is not even worthy of my acknowledgement.
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?jfkunrendered
Fossils?
Â
Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
Fossils contain the remains of animals and plants from thousands of years ago, and they are buried within rocks. Amongst the oldest rocks are imprints of very basic life forms, while more recent rocks contain imprints of more complex life forms. This is just ONE proof of evolution.
Anyone who fails to accept evolution as fact is either in denial or just ignorant.
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That doesnt prove anything to me, sorry. And I think it was Darwin that said if we never find transitional forms, our whole belief fails. That is correct, right sir?
We have found transitional forms!
Duh!
[QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
-Karayan-
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
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Do you know whats going on with the sun right now? If you do, there is your answer.Â
[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?JayMatthews06
Fossils?
Â
Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
Fossils contain the remains of animals and plants from thousands of years ago, and they are buried within rocks. Amongst the oldest rocks are imprints of very basic life forms, while more recent rocks contain imprints of more complex life forms. This is just ONE proof of evolution.
Anyone who fails to accept evolution as fact is either in denial or just ignorant.
Â
That doesnt prove anything to me, sorry. And I think it was Darwin that said if we never find transitional forms, our whole belief fails. That is correct, right sir?
We have found transitional forms!
Duh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_form
Look under 'Misconceptions'Â
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[QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
-Karayan-
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
How is it fact? Where is the proof?jfkunrenderedyou can observe viruses and other small celled organisms evolve and mutate since they live for only about 20mins.
[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
jfkunrendered
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
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Do you know whats going on with the sun right now? If you do, there is your answer.
The sun is turning hydrogen into helium....Â
[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
darkmaster578
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
Oh my God!
People are so ignorant!
The reason why some fossils near the bottom can be younger than those at the top is because of geological forces that have flipped the rocks upside-down.
Again, SCIENTIFIC FACT.Â
[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?Evolving_Jesusyou can observe viruses and other small celled organisms evolve and mutate since they live for only about 20mins.
Precisely.Â
[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
darkmaster578
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
:| Dude, it's not like that they just dig anywhere and think that if they go deep enough they go back in time. There are a lot of tests to be done to check the composition of the ground etc.
A lot of things can bring fossils up such as earthquakes and volcanoes.Â
[QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
JayMatthews06
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
Oh my God!
People are so ignorant!
The reason why some fossils near the bottom can be younger than those at the top is because of geological forces that have flipped the rocks upside-down.
Again, SCIENTIFIC FACT.
Oh really? Show me some proof.Wait, so evolution can occur in a few minutes? Thought that was a process that took thousands of years. Guess the rules change as people see fit to change them...Eman5805
Another mindless post.Â
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
darkmaster578
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
Oh my God!
People are so ignorant!
The reason why some fossils near the bottom can be younger than those at the top is because of geological forces that have flipped the rocks upside-down.
Again, SCIENTIFIC FACT.
Oh really? Show me some proof.Mate, I learnt that at school - I'm 15.
THAT'S HOW BASIC AND WELL-ACCEPTED IT IS.
Do a bit of research.Â
Wait, so evolution can occur in a few minutes? Thought that was a process that took thousands of years. Guess the rules change as people see fit to change them...Eman5805
You are constantly evolving...its just that it takes millions of year before you can actually see a difference.
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?JayMatthews06
Fossils?
Â
Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
Fossils contain the remains of animals and plants from thousands of years ago, and they are buried within rocks. Amongst the oldest rocks are imprints of very basic life forms, while more recent rocks contain imprints of more complex life forms. This is just ONE proof of evolution.
Anyone who fails to accept evolution as fact is either in denial or just ignorant.
Â
That doesnt prove anything to me, sorry. And I think it was Darwin that said if we never find transitional forms, our whole belief fails. That is correct, right sir?
We have found transitional forms!
Duh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_form
Look under 'Misconceptions'
Â
How about that one where someone drew a picture of what the first land mammal should have looked like, when they gave up gills and got longues, and started to grow legs.
It was a preposterous looking animal, and all christians laughed.
A few years later, exactly such an animal's fossil was found.
Wrong. Evolution is a scientific theory. Not a fact of yet. Just like intelligent design -- creationism -- is a theory. ayanami_rei
Indeed, there is no such thing as scientific fact.
However, there is enough proof for evolution as to deem it such.Â
[QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
JayMatthews06
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
Oh my God!
People are so ignorant!
The reason why some fossils near the bottom can be younger than those at the top is because of geological forces that have flipped the rocks upside-down.
Again, SCIENTIFIC FACT.
Oh really? Show me some proof.Mate, I learnt that at school - I'm 15.
THAT'S HOW BASIC AND WELL-ACCEPTED IT IS.
Do a bit of research.
Again, I'll tell you what the movie is called as soon as I get an email back from my teacher. It's not like you're gonna watch it anyway, but that will be my proof. You, apparently, have none, so I am forced to not believe you.[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?-Karayan-
Fossils?
Â
Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
Fossils contain the remains of animals and plants from thousands of years ago, and they are buried within rocks. Amongst the oldest rocks are imprints of very basic life forms, while more recent rocks contain imprints of more complex life forms. This is just ONE proof of evolution.
Anyone who fails to accept evolution as fact is either in denial or just ignorant.
Â
That doesnt prove anything to me, sorry. And I think it was Darwin that said if we never find transitional forms, our whole belief fails. That is correct, right sir?
We have found transitional forms!
Duh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_form
Look under 'Misconceptions'
Â
How about that one where someone drew a picture of what the first land mammal should have looked like, when they gave up gills and got longues, and started to grow legs.
It was a preposterous looking animal, and all christians laughed.
A few years later, exactly such an animal's fossil was found.
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link? I`m just curious, because I have never heard of this.Â
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
darkmaster578
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
Oh my God!
People are so ignorant!
The reason why some fossils near the bottom can be younger than those at the top is because of geological forces that have flipped the rocks upside-down.
Again, SCIENTIFIC FACT.
Oh really? Show me some proof.Mate, I learnt that at school - I'm 15.
THAT'S HOW BASIC AND WELL-ACCEPTED IT IS.
Do a bit of research.
Again, I'll tell you what the movie is called as soon as I get an email back from my teacher. It's not like you're gonna watch it anyway, but that will be my proof. You, apparently, have none, so I am forced to not believe you.I have consistently stated my evidence throughout this thread.
You, Sir, are the one without evidence.Â
[QUOTE="Eman5805"]Wait, so evolution can occur in a few minutes? Thought that was a process that took thousands of years. Guess the rules change as people see fit to change them...JayMatthews06
Another mindless post.Â
I know you're on a rampage, but try to respond in kind. I didn't lash out at anyone. Next time exercise some respect please.
And I'm serious, what is evolution exactly? Is it homo erectus turning into homo sapien over thousands of years, or is it virus A acting like it's in a slow blender before dying? Is it suddenly both of those things? And don't cop out by pointing me to some wikipedia article...
[QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="darkmaster578"]I'm sorry, evolution has been proven wrong.
JayMatthews06
Give me one (1) solid piece of evidence against evolution.
You know the rock formations? The ones that were placed horizontally? Well, they weren't placed horizontally, they were placed vertically. That means that fossils near the bottom, could even be younger than the ones near the top. I know that's not really proof you're looking for, but someone said something about rock formations up above.Anyway I watched this movie on it a while back with a bunch of proof and crap, but I can't remember the name. I emailed my teacher asking though, and as soon as I get the name, I'll recommend it to you. And it's not a Christian movie. It was made by non Christian scientists.
Oh my God!
People are so ignorant!
The reason why some fossils near the bottom can be younger than those at the top is because of geological forces that have flipped the rocks upside-down.
Again, SCIENTIFIC FACT.
Oh really? Show me some proof.Mate, I learnt that at school - I'm 15.
THAT'S HOW BASIC AND WELL-ACCEPTED IT IS.
Do a bit of research.
Again, I'll tell you what the movie is called as soon as I get an email back from my teacher. It's not like you're gonna watch it anyway, but that will be my proof. You, apparently, have none, so I am forced to not believe you.I have consistently stated my evidence throughout this thread.
You, Sir, are the one without evidence.
Oh really? I didn't see any. All you said was "THIS IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. IT WAS PROVEN. YOU MUST BELIEVE ME BECAUSE I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS."[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]How is it fact? Where is the proof?jfkunrendered
Fossils?
Â
Oh right, the transitional forms you guys found...oh wait...there are none. I dont know what a fossil can prove. What can it prove? Please, tell me.
Fossils contain the remains of animals and plants from thousands of years ago, and they are buried within rocks. Amongst the oldest rocks are imprints of very basic life forms, while more recent rocks contain imprints of more complex life forms. This is just ONE proof of evolution.
Anyone who fails to accept evolution as fact is either in denial or just ignorant.
Â
That doesnt prove anything to me, sorry. And I think it was Darwin that said if we never find transitional forms, our whole belief fails. That is correct, right sir?
We have found transitional forms!
Duh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_form
Look under 'Misconceptions'
Â
How about that one where someone drew a picture of what the first land mammal should have looked like, when they gave up gills and got longues, and started to grow legs.
It was a preposterous looking animal, and all christians laughed.
A few years later, exactly such an animal's fossil was found.
Â
link? I`m just curious, because I have never heard of this.
I saw it on youtube, I can't find that particular video right now, so I don't know if this has anything about the drawing on it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/science/06fossil.html?ex=1301976000&en=76a1b46221b5cc6a&ei=5090Â
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzQ1lY5WMpcÂ
[QUOTE="JayMatthews06"][QUOTE="Eman5805"]Wait, so evolution can occur in a few minutes? Thought that was a process that took thousands of years. Guess the rules change as people see fit to change them...Eman5805
Another mindless post.
I know you're on a rampage, but try to respond in kind. I didn't lash out at anyone. Next time exercise some respect please.
And I'm serious, what is evolution exactly? Is it homo erectus turning into homo sapien over thousands of years, or is it virus A acting like it's in a slow blender before dying? Is it suddenly both of those things? And don't cop out by pointing me to some wikipedia article...
Not thousands of years, millions of years.
And evolution is just genetic mutation.
Evolution is not the opposite of religion...but there are a few missing holes in the current theory.LJS9502_basicYup, a good number of Christians believe in evolution, and I believe a recent pope (most likely John-Paul II) said something along the lines of "It's alright to believe in evolution as long as you remember only God can create the human soul". Those who do believe in evolution take the story of creation in the bible as a metaphor, given that's similar to how people would have written in those times. But ultimately this comes down to a matter of what one chooses to believe, and currently there's no solid proof proving or disproving evolution or any other theory, so currently no belief is right or wrong and there's not much point arguing over it. But that's just my opinion, if you want to continue by all means do so.
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