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Lately I've felt a little different with myself. I feel like I've gained some weight. I'm not very in shape to begin with, and I figured any significant weight gain would hurt a lot more than it would help, especially considering that I'm starting college in the fall and I don't want to be known as the "funny fat guy".

It didn't bother me until last night when I was just walking through my house and a button literally poped right off my pants. It was like a freakin' cartoon, I laughed at first, but then I realized that it's about darn time I actually do something.

I just don't know what to do.

I know it sounds quite simple: lift some weights, do some push ups, run, eat healthier, join a gym... but I don't know where to begin.

Any of you know some great ways to exercise? I know I'm asking a gaming forum for exercise advice which stereotypically shouldn't yeild many results, but you guys are a good bunch of people so I figured what the hell why not!

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#2 Skittles_McGee
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Walk. No seriously. Walk. Its easy, you can listen to music, you look normal doing it, and it's actually pretty effective.
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#3 Bane_09
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Running is a good way to stay in shape. I usually go to the gym every other day and jog 2-3 miles and then ride an exercise bike for about 5 miles.

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#4 Ilovegames1992
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Join a gym if you can afford it. Just motivate yourself. Whether its girls, looking good, or just being healthier. All good motivators.

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#6 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

Running is a good way to stay in shape. I usually go to the gym every other day and jog 2-3 miles and then ride an exercise bike for about 5 miles.

SEANMCAD

please run or cycle outside.

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#8 KiIIyou
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Don't really need a gym if all youre wanting is to do is to lose a little fat. Just replace some of the foods your eating with better ones, like brown rice stead of white, whole wheat stead of white too, and real fruit stead of juices. Cardio will help a lot too, just a half hour to an hour of just plain walking is plenty every other day or so. Or even jump rope, that's a awesome thing to do.
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#9 deactivated-6224e9178325f
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There's actually a gym I can go to for free because my parent's friends own it, but it's 45 minutes away and I don't have the money to burn on gas for the trip, just to work out a few times a week.

I'll probably start running/walking more. Thanks for the feedback so far, everyone!

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#10 bnarmz
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pants sounds like they were too tight to begin with. If you like form fitters perhaps walking a couple miles a day (along with some crunches) will get those pants fitting better...and the blood circulation flowing again.
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#11 leviathan91
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Since you're going to college, perhaps you should do a sport there like soccer or basketball.

As of now, just go out for a run. All you need are good running shoes, gym shorts, a shirt, and a MP3 player. Try to go a certain distance and run as much as you can.

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Cardio is the best way to burn fat.

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#13 chrisrooR
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Any moderate exercise is good. Walk up and down the stairs in your home 30 times. Go out for a walk. Know how to skip? Grab a skipping rope and go at a good pace for 10 minutes. Then look at your diet. Cut out ANY unnecessary fats, sugars, sodium or carbs. Drink lots of water, limit your juice intake to a small cup per day. Motivate yourself through feeling and visualization. How do you feel after a workout? I know I feel amazing. Join a sports team or a local club. Get invovled!
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#15 Jynx_1991
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Join a gym if you can afford it. Just motivate yourself. Whether its girls, looking good, or just being healthier. All good motivators.

Ilovegames1992

^ TC, I would avoid doing this, especially considering the fact that you just said you're self concious so I doubt joining a gym and seeing ripped guys and girls will motivate you; seeing their bodies may actually deter you from your goal because you're new to working out, and most likely you'll compare your body to theirs which isn't good.

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#16 Jynx_1991
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TC, I posted this in another board and I'm going to post it here to help you:

For those that are really serious about losing weight, here are a few tips I've used in the past as well as today to maintain my body:

- Completely cut out white carbs (white bread, white rice, white crackers, white anything really because it causes weight gain) and instead opt for whole wheat instead which helps to promote weight loss. Just remember that just because something's brown does NOT mean it's actual whole wheat, so make sure to thoroughly read labels

- Cut out poison from your diet: sugar. Yes, sugar is poison: It ruins your skin, promotes weight gain, makes it hard to focus, etc. Nothing good comes from eating sugar. Besides natural sugar is already found in fruits, veggies, etc. Oh and a tip about cutting out sugar is that when you first stop consuming it, your body will go into "shock" if you will, in which you'll crave it for like 3-4 days but If you persist and refrain from doing so you'll no longer want sugar anymore. Trust me.

- Make sure you're getting enough protein around EVERY meal. Protein is what helps build lean muscle as well as promote weight lost; also you feel a lot fuller when you have protein in your meal. Good sources of cheap protein: eggs, milk, cottage cheese, string cheese, beans (opt for black beans which have more antioxidants), and lean meats such as chicken. Protein shakes are expensive, but if you're short on time and have to eat something then drink a protein shake which will keep you satisfied (and looking good) until your next meal.

- Maybe this isn't my place to say because this is subjective, but I believe one should focus on exercising about 3-4 times a week in which workouts do not pass twenty minutes because, honestly who really has the time to do fifty minute workouts? I tried in the past to do things like P90X, and all those other fancy programs, to which I always quit due to the fact that I could never commit because of my busy schedule. What I think everyone should do instead is workout for about 15 minutes without rest for about 3-4 times a week (cardio & strength training together is ideal), that way you're actually burning a lot more calories because you're NOT stopping and resting every five minutes like you do in those fancy excersise programs.

And if you need inspiration for your workouts, try youtube. Yes, I know it seems kind of weird but It's free and there are some good trainers there.

And girls, do not be afraid of using weights; a lot of girls I know that refrain from using weights have flabby arms which is their main complaint regarding their bodies.

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Just start walking. When I lost a bunch of weight, it was because I started walking. I cut out soda and was basically eating tuna/cereal every day. I lost 40 pounds in less than 2 months. I've kept it off since february. I still need to lose some more because I want to be ripped, but I have maintained my weight by exercising occasionally and eating decent, not great. Basically, I was walking around my block, which is extremely hilly, for about 1-2 hours each day. I don't think I ever ran at all, oh and I'd occasionally lift some dumbbells. You can do it, even if you start off slow. When I was younger, I would get discouraged when I would try to lose weight and would actually gain it, despite eating healthy and exercising. Don't let it get to you, and stay strong my brotha!
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#18 Novotine
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There's actually a gym I can go to for free because my parent's friends own it, but it's 45 minutes away and I don't have the money to burn on gas for the trip, just to work out a few times a week.

I'll probably start running/walking more. Thanks for the feedback so far, everyone!

-Russ93
I also started running a couple months ago, and while it's not as effective as cutting on your eating, it makes you feel incredible.
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#20 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I run 5 to 6 times a week, but as Moogle said - walking is very effective. Despite excercise, you will have to eat sensibly.

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#21 BMD004
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Lately I've felt a little different with myself. I feel like I've gained some weight. I'm not very in shape to begin with, and I figured any significant weight gain would hurt a lot more than it would help, especially considering that I'm starting college in the fall and I don't want to be known as the "funny fat guy".

It didn't bother me until last night when I was just walking through my house and a button literally poped right off my pants. It was like a freakin' cartoon, I laughed at first, but then I realized that it's about darn time I actually do something.

I just don't know what to do.

I know it sounds quite simple: lift some weights, do some push ups, run, eat healthier, join a gym... but I don't know where to begin.

Any of you know some great ways to exercise? I know I'm asking a gaming forum for exercise advice which stereotypically shouldn't yeild many results, but you guys are a good bunch of people so I figured what the hell why not!

-Russ93

If you really want to burn fat, look into HIIT. It is essentially running sprints. It doesn't even take that long. It's short, but it's intense... but you will burn a LOT of fat. You'll also want to eat healthier. To start, maybe just cut out drinking soda and eating so much junk. Eat your same meals, but maybe just stop eating a meal just a little bit before you'd normally stop eating. If you do those things, you'll burn a lot of fat and you'll cut some easy calories. The most important thing is to stick with it. If you do it for a few weeks and stop, then you'll think that it didn't work. It isn't that it didn't work, you just didn't give it enough time. So whatever you do, try hard to stick with it for a few months.

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#23 BMD004
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If you really want to get in top shape, read some of Mackie Shilstone's books. He's a trainer from around where I used to live in New Orleans. He's trained world-class champion boxers like Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins, and currently trains Serena Williams.

Pick up his books. "The Fat Burning Bible" if you are just wanting to lose fat, or get "Lean and Hard" if you want to get more muscular and shredded. I've personally done "Lean and Hard" and it is a great program if you follow it.

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#24 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="-Russ93"]

Lately I've felt a little different with myself. I feel like I've gained some weight. I'm not very in shape to begin with, and I figured any significant weight gain would hurt a lot more than it would help, especially considering that I'm starting college in the fall and I don't want to be known as the "funny fat guy".

It didn't bother me until last night when I was just walking through my house and a button literally poped right off my pants. It was like a freakin' cartoon, I laughed at first, but then I realized that it's about darn time I actually do something.

I just don't know what to do.

I know it sounds quite simple: lift some weights, do some push ups, run, eat healthier, join a gym... but I don't know where to begin.

Any of you know some great ways to exercise? I know I'm asking a gaming forum for exercise advice which stereotypically shouldn't yeild many results, but you guys are a good bunch of people so I figured what the hell why not!

SEANMCAD

If you really want to burn fat, look into HIIT. It is essentially running sprints. It doesn't even take that long. It's short, but it's intense... but you will burn a LOT of fat. You'll also want to eat healthier. To start, maybe just cut out drinking soda and eating so much junk. Eat your same meals, but maybe just stop eating a meal just a little bit before you'd normally stop eating. If you do those things, you'll burn a lot of fat and you'll cut some easy calories. The most important thing is to stick with it. If you do it for a few weeks and stop, then you'll think that it didn't work. It isn't that it didn't work, you just didn't give it enough time. So whatever you do, try hard to stick with it for a few months.

food quality makes a big difference. If its good calories you eat less and at the same time get more quality your body is asking for.

I encourge people to give serious consideration to not driving when at all possible. walk or cycle to locatons instead if possible. It doesnt have to be an intense workout to get some benifits, plus you end up at your location PLUS got some exercise and intresting sites along the way.

Of course food makes a big difference. But there is a difference between dropping a little weight and getting shredded. If he just wants to drop some pounds, he can start by cutting out certain things and exercising. And if he wants to lose more, then he can change some other aspects of his diet. It really just depends on how hard he wants to work.
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#25 Communist_Soul
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What about gaining weight through exercising, any tips on that?

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#26 Jynx_1991
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What about gaining weight through exercising, any tips on that?

Communist_Soul

Are you talking about gaining muscle mass?

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#27 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

What about gaining weight through exercising, any tips on that?

Jynx_1991

Are you talking about gaining muscle mass?

Yeah that's what I meant sorry.

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#28 RoseFlambe169
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I think what everyone else said should be sufficient. I also had fun with P90X though. I mean, I'm not looking for the super abs or anything, but anytime I wanna workout and am not sure where to start, one of those workout videos does it for me.

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#29 Jynx_1991
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@Communist_Soul Well, honestly I don't know too much about gaining muscle, as that isn't my goal (I workout to stay lean). Sorry.

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#30 Communist_Soul
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@Communist_Soul Well, honestly I don't know too much about gaining muscle, as that isn't my goal (I workout to stay lean). Sorry.

Jynx_1991

Ah, o well, thank you anyways.

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Play a sport.If you enjoy it,it seems less of a chore
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I wouldn't recommend running at all, if you are fairly overweight it will punish your knees. I did it when I was younger and 30 lbs heavier and can't run now because my right knee is f*cked. Try something like the elliptical or a bike, and build up a sweat. Seriously, if you're going to take the time out of your day to workout, don't simply walk a few miles. Put in hard effort and bust your ass until you're soaked with sweat, about 35-50 minutes. It'll suck while you're doing it, but afterwards you'll feel great and will see results very quickly.

Also, as others have mentioned-cut out sugar, junk-food (or eat it very seldom), soda, and eat well-proportioned meals. But any way you cut it, losing weight takes hard work and discipline. Don't bother unless you are going to follow through.

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I wouldn't recommend running at all, if you are fairly overweight it will punish your knees. I did it when I was younger and 30 lbs heavier and can't run now because my right knee is f*cked. Try something like the elliptical or a bike, and build up a sweat. Seriously, if you're going to take the time out of your day to workout, don't simply walk a few miles. Put in hard effort and bust your ass until you're soaked with sweat, about 35-50 minutes. It'll suck while you're doing it, but afterwards you'll feel great and will see results very quickly.

Also, as others have mentioned-cut out sugar, junk-food (or eat it very seldom), soda, and eat well-proportioned meals. But any way you cut it, losing weight takes hard work and discipline. Don't bother unless you are going to follow through.

MirkoS77
I don't think being overweight has anything to do with hurting the knees. I feel like if you're going to have bad joints, then it is going to happen, regardless of whether you weigh 150 lbs or 250 lbs. I know plenty of skinny people with joint problems, and plenty of big people without joint problems. I played every year of football overweight, and my knees are fine. I walk now, but that's only because I have trouble breathing when I first start, and I don't feel like building up that kind of endurance, especially when I am fine now and my legs are plenty strong. Originally, my shins would be what hurt, but after walking, I no longer have that problem. And to the guy who posted books, fudge that. You don't need to read books to know how to lose weight. Just exercise and eat healthier.
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#34 TonyDanzaFan
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I wouldn't recommend running at all, if you are fairly overweight it will punish your knees. I did it when I was younger and 30 lbs heavier and can't run now because my right knee is f*cked. Try something like the elliptical or a bike, and build up a sweat. Seriously, if you're going to take the time out of your day to workout, don't simply walk a few miles. Put in hard effort and bust your ass until you're soaked with sweat, about 35-50 minutes. It'll suck while you're doing it, but afterwards you'll feel great and will see results very quickly.

Also, as others have mentioned-cut out sugar, junk-food (or eat it very seldom), soda, and eat well-proportioned meals. But any way you cut it, losing weight takes hard work and discipline. Don't bother unless you are going to follow through.

MirkoS77
And the not walking piece of drivel is terrible advice. If he is overweight, then odds are he is going to have difficulty getting started. Let him start by walking and gradually work his way up to more intensive exercise.
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#35 BMD004
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What about gaining weight through exercising, any tips on that?

Communist_Soul

Check this wiki out... it is the "gold standard" for adding muscle for beginners:http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Three_Flavors_of_Starting_Strength

Make sure you click on the links to the right of the page, also. There are other pages about nutrition, form, etc.

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#36 MirkoS77
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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

I wouldn't recommend running at all, if you are fairly overweight it will punish your knees. I did it when I was younger and 30 lbs heavier and can't run now because my right knee is f*cked. Try something like the elliptical or a bike, and build up a sweat. Seriously, if you're going to take the time out of your day to workout, don't simply walk a few miles. Put in hard effort and bust your ass until you're soaked with sweat, about 35-50 minutes. It'll suck while you're doing it, but afterwards you'll feel great and will see results very quickly.

Also, as others have mentioned-cut out sugar, junk-food (or eat it very seldom), soda, and eat well-proportioned meals. But any way you cut it, losing weight takes hard work and discipline. Don't bother unless you are going to follow through.

TonyDanzaFan

I don't think being overweight has anything to do with hurting the knees. I feel like if you're going to have bad joints, then it is going to happen, regardless of whether you weigh 150 lbs or 250 lbs. I know plenty of skinny people with joint problems, and plenty of big people without joint problems. I played every year of football overweight, and my knees are fine. I walk now, but that's only because I have trouble breathing when I first start, and I don't feel like building up that kind of endurance, especially when I am fine now and my legs are plenty strong. Originally, my shins would be what hurt, but after walking, I no longer have that problem. And to the guy who posted books, fudge that. You don't need to read books to know how to lose weight. Just exercise and eat healthier.

Why should he take a gamble with his knees? If some people have bad joints, it's better to be safe than sorry, as one kind of needs their knees for cardio. Just because you didn't have trouble doesn't mean that he won't. And as for walking, yes it is a waste of time for the payoff. Taking a walk with the intention of burning off fat is just not worth it, unless he's morbidly obese at 500 lbs or so.

I'd say if you want to keep fat off, alright, I agree walking is fine, but to get rid of it you need to sweat and get your heart-rate up. I assume he walks during the day as we all do. If he wants to exercise, a bike (or as I mentioned an elliptical) are good starting points as they are just as productive as walking, usually more so. I tried starting off walking to lose my weight. Got demotivated in less than a week because 1) it'd usually have to be an hour or longer to even feel anything, 2) I didn't see any results like I do a day after an intense workout, and 3) the time spent vs. the payoff was not there.

Just the way I see it. If I'm going to get all dressed up in my gym clothes and drive there, I'm going to make it worth my while and burn off 600+ cals in 45 minutes, not walk on a treadmill to burn 300 in an hour. I'm not saying walking's not good, of course it is, but I don't believe it's the best way to lose weight and if that's his goal, his time could be much better utilized towards achieving it.

And there's no reason he can't "work his way up" on a machine. Machines are prime for this, as they have the benefit of giving increased resistanceand speed.

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#37 TacticalDesire
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What about gaining weight through exercising, any tips on that?

Communist_Soul

Incorporate cardio into your lifting. That way there's never a time you're burning exclusively.

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Start a C25K program. I started mine last week.
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According to the BMI charts i was just at the obesity level when i decided to lose weight. At first i only did walking on a treadmill but i really wasnt losing much. So i increased my time, distance, and incline up to 3hrs a day at greater than 6% and i did get some results. Even then i wasnt losing it very fast and it was only after i downloaded a program to my phone and really started counting calories that my weight loss has been effective. I still go out and eat unhealthy once in a while and im not a super strict diet but for the most part i try to keep under 1500 calories and a certain amount of fat, carbs, and sugars a day. It takes months of effort and will power though to go through with it. Once you get down to the normal range of BMI then you could start doing exercises that will shape and tone your body to what you want. One of the big things about weight loss is that once you reach your target, people often will forget about everything they had to do and will start slacking off and be back to where they were. So once you get most of the fat off i would certainly recommend that you think about getting maybe toning just to keep you at the level you like. Keep it at about 1500 calories a day for everything, drink only water if you can, and exercise for about 30-60min a day. It takes about 3500 calories lost or burned to lose just 1 pound of fat so just by a diet of 1500 instead of 2000 calories you could lose up to 1 pound a week.
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#40 arad96
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There's actually a gym I can go to for free because my parent's friends own it, but it's 45 minutes away and I don't have the money to burn on gas for the trip, just to work out a few times a week.

I'll probably start running/walking more. Thanks for the feedback so far, everyone!

-Russ93

Run to the gym instead and save gas.

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#41 Lu-Kang
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start out slow

don't try and do everything at once, because more than likely it will fall apart after a month.

For example if you wanna run 5 miles. start out at a mile or two then start building up till you hit your goal.

same thing with your diet.

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#42 Zlurodirom
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

What about gaining weight through exercising, any tips on that?

BMD004

Check this wiki out... it is the "gold standard" for adding muscle for beginners:http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Three_Flavors_of_Starting_Strength

Make sure you click on the links to the right of the page, also. There are other pages about nutrition, form, etc.

@communist_soul, I would say a program like this is designed more towards strength than size. If your goal is to gain size moreso than strength, increasing the total volume lifted would be more beneficial.

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#43 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

What about gaining weight through exercising, any tips on that?

Zlurodirom

Check this wiki out... it is the "gold standard" for adding muscle for beginners:http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Three_Flavors_of_Starting_Strength

Make sure you click on the links to the right of the page, also. There are other pages about nutrition, form, etc.

@communist_soul, I would say a program like this is designed more towards strength than size. If your goal is to gain size moreso than strength, increasing the total volume lifted would be more beneficial.

If he is just starting out, he should build a base of strength first before increasing more volume with a hypertrophy program like a bodybuilder would do. If he is starting, he will build a good bit of muscle no matter what he does, so it is more wise to build strength since his muscles will grow anyway. Once he gets his strength up, he will be able to build even more muscle when he finally switches to a more hypertrophy-based program because he will be able to lift heavier weight at the higher reps. This is the exact routine I did when I first started years ago, and I put on a good 25 pounds or so doing that program.
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[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"]Check this wiki out... it is the "gold standard" for adding muscle for beginners:http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Three_Flavors_of_Starting_Strength

Make sure you click on the links to the right of the page, also. There are other pages about nutrition, form, etc.

BMD004

@communist_soul, I would say a program like this is designed more towards strength than size. If your goal is to gain size moreso than strength, increasing the total volume lifted would be more beneficial.

If he is just starting out, he should build a base of strength first before increasing more volume with a hypertrophy program like a bodybuilder would do. If he is starting, he will build a good bit of muscle no matter what he does, so it is more wise to build strength since his muscles will grow anyway. Once he gets his strength up, he will be able to build even more muscle when he finally switches to a more hypertrophy-based program because he will be able to lift heavier weight at the higher reps. This is the exact routine I did when I first started years ago, and I put on a good 25 pounds or so doing that program.

Nice, how long have you been lifting?

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Walk. No seriously. Walk. Its easy, you can listen to music, you look normal doing it, and it's actually pretty effective.Skittles_McGee

Absolute truth. I started 8th grade at like 135 lbs. My friends and I walked at a leisurely pace for like 20 minutes around the inside of the school before class, 15 minutes on break and 45 on lunch, and occasionally we'd hoof it to one of the nearby fast food places. I stuffed my face with CRAP and by mid-9th grade I weighed 116 with ZERO effort on my part. I did not participate in gym even hard enough to ruffle my hair, I effing hated gym.

I don't have that kind of time anymore, but I'm starting to exercise, jog or at least walk on the treadmill. If you don't have one, you can find used ones fairly cheap on kijiji or craigslist. If you walk for an hour while watching a primetime show, that's an hour of activity. If you did that EVERY day, you'd have almost 400 hours of activity under your belt in a year, and you'd have done nothing out of the ordinary and taken no time away from your other activities.

I've also joined myfitnesspal and got the app, which helps me chart what I eat and in only a few days it's actually starting to change how I eat. Instead of a whole sausage roll or croissant today, I had half of each. Instead of a can of pop, I had 1/2 cup on ice. It also tracks how much fat and whatever I take in, my sugars, my protein etc. It's an awesome tool, I love it. I'm aiming for 15 lbs off at least, hopefully 20, by yearend, at one pound a week. I still eat sort of crap food, but I'm making better choices and that's a step.

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#46 Zlurodirom
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[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"]Check this wiki out... it is the "gold standard" for adding muscle for beginners:http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Three_Flavors_of_Starting_Strength

Make sure you click on the links to the right of the page, also. There are other pages about nutrition, form, etc.

BMD004

@communist_soul, I would say a program like this is designed more towards strength than size. If your goal is to gain size moreso than strength, increasing the total volume lifted would be more beneficial.

If he is just starting out, he should build a base of strength first before increasing more volume with a hypertrophy program like a bodybuilder would do. If he is starting, he will build a good bit of muscle no matter what he does, so it is more wise to build strength since his muscles will grow anyway. Once he gets his strength up, he will be able to build even more muscle when he finally switches to a more hypertrophy-based program because he will be able to lift heavier weight at the higher reps. This is the exact routine I did when I first started years ago, and I put on a good 25 pounds or so doing that program.

The current scientific recommendation is during the early stages of strength training, endurance and hypertrophy training is recommended. You can gain a LOT of strength without gaining much size/weight. Most strength increases come from increased neuromuscle recruitment. Endurance training means the body can sustain the higher volume and recover enough to undergo hypertrophy training, look at any periodization recommended by any strength and conditioning coach, the first stages do not jump straight into just strength. If we're pulling out numbers that mean nothing, I have gained 20 lbs in less than 2 months of doing a high volume (4x10) lower intensity (50-60% 1 rep max), going from 145-165 lbs.

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#47 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

@communist_soul, I would say a program like this is designed more towards strength than size. If your goal is to gain size moreso than strength, increasing the total volume lifted would be more beneficial.

Zlurodirom

If he is just starting out, he should build a base of strength first before increasing more volume with a hypertrophy program like a bodybuilder would do. If he is starting, he will build a good bit of muscle no matter what he does, so it is more wise to build strength since his muscles will grow anyway. Once he gets his strength up, he will be able to build even more muscle when he finally switches to a more hypertrophy-based program because he will be able to lift heavier weight at the higher reps. This is the exact routine I did when I first started years ago, and I put on a good 25 pounds or so doing that program.

The current scientific recommendation is during the early stages of strength training, endurance and hypertrophy training is recommended. You can gain a LOT of strength without gaining much size/weight. Most strength increases come from increased neuromuscle recruitment. Endurance training means the body can sustain the higher volume and recover enough to undergo hypertrophy training, look at any periodization recommended by any strength and conditioning coach, the first stages do not jump straight into just strength. If we're pulling out numbers that mean nothing, I have gained 20 lbs in less than 2 months of doing a high volume (4x10) lower intensity (50-60% 1 rep max), going from 145-165 lbs.

Yes, you can gain a lot of strength without gaining much size... but when you are just starting out, you will put size on no matter what. The main thing you want to do is focus on compound lifts so that you build as many different muscles as you can. Anyway, the program I recommended is by Mark Rippetoe and Glenn Pendlay, and Dr. Lon Kilgore. They were all powerlifters. Pendlay was also an Olympic coach, and Kilgore has a PhD. If you are a beginner looking to build strength (and size), then that is the program. The wisdom is that if you build your strength up FIRST, then when you switch to a higher volume-based program later, you can increase your size even more than if you only did a hypertrophy program because you will be able to lift MORE WEIGHT in the higher 10-15 rep range than if you didn't build up your strength first. More weight in the 10-15 range = more size.

As a beginner, you should start with a good base of strength before moving on to different types of workouts.

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[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

@communist_soul, I would say a program like this is designed more towards strength than size. If your goal is to gain size moreso than strength, increasing the total volume lifted would be more beneficial.

TacticalDesire

If he is just starting out, he should build a base of strength first before increasing more volume with a hypertrophy program like a bodybuilder would do. If he is starting, he will build a good bit of muscle no matter what he does, so it is more wise to build strength since his muscles will grow anyway. Once he gets his strength up, he will be able to build even more muscle when he finally switches to a more hypertrophy-based program because he will be able to lift heavier weight at the higher reps. This is the exact routine I did when I first started years ago, and I put on a good 25 pounds or so doing that program.

Nice, how long have you been lifting?

About 5 years I guess... I don't remember exactly when I started. When I started I was 135 pounds at 6'1" tall. I'm about 195 pounds now with pretty low body fat.
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#49 hadoken
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Don't really need a gym if all youre wanting is to do is to lose a little fat. Just replace some of the foods your eating with better ones, like brown rice stead of white, whole wheat stead of white too, and real fruit stead of juices. Cardio will help a lot too, just a half hour to an hour of just plain walking is plenty every other day or so. Or even jump rope, that's a awesome thing to do.

wtf i thought u were crazy
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#50 Zlurodirom
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[QUOTE="Zlurodirom"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"]If he is just starting out, he should build a base of strength first before increasing more volume with a hypertrophy program like a bodybuilder would do. If he is starting, he will build a good bit of muscle no matter what he does, so it is more wise to build strength since his muscles will grow anyway. Once he gets his strength up, he will be able to build even more muscle when he finally switches to a more hypertrophy-based program because he will be able to lift heavier weight at the higher reps. This is the exact routine I did when I first started years ago, and I put on a good 25 pounds or so doing that program.BMD004

The current scientific recommendation is during the early stages of strength training, endurance and hypertrophy training is recommended. You can gain a LOT of strength without gaining much size/weight. Most strength increases come from increased neuromuscle recruitment. Endurance training means the body can sustain the higher volume and recover enough to undergo hypertrophy training, look at any periodization recommended by any strength and conditioning coach, the first stages do not jump straight into just strength. If we're pulling out numbers that mean nothing, I have gained 20 lbs in less than 2 months of doing a high volume (4x10) lower intensity (50-60% 1 rep max), going from 145-165 lbs.

Yes, you can gain a lot of strength without gaining much size... but when you are just starting out, you will put size on no matter what. The main thing you want to do is focus on compound lifts so that you build as many different muscles as you can. Anyway, the program I recommended is by Mark Rippetoe and Glenn Pendlay, and Dr. Lon Kilgore. They were all powerlifters. Pendlay was also an Olympic coach, and Kilgore has a PhD. If you are a beginner looking to build strength (and size), then that is the program. The wisdom is that if you build your strength up FIRST, then when you switch to a higher volume-based program later, you can increase your size even more than if you only did a hypertrophy program because you will be able to lift MORE WEIGHT in the higher 10-15 rep range than if you didn't build up your strength first. More weight in the 10-15 range = more size.

As a beginner, you should start with a good base of strength before moving on to different types of workouts.

That is neat they are considered specialists, but an endurance/hypertrophy regimen is recommended by the National Strength and Conditioning Association, a group that has many more than a single PhD member a olympic coach. The problem with building up strength first, especially beginners, chance of injury is huge, especially with movements using multiple joints. By using endurance and hypertrophy training, the body can adapt to lifting and build a muscular and metabolic endurance base. After this stage the body will be better prepared dealing with training that will increase strength. It's like running, if you want to run a fast mile, you don't go out every day and run a mile about as fast as you can, this can cause injury. Instead you start by building an endurance base and slowly ramp up the speed during different workouts. Also reps over 12 are generally regarded as endurance building, and not as much hypertrophy, which his goal is to gain size more than endurance.