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#1 Masinai
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Explain in your own way and how you think. I am tired of all these religion threads about god existing but how they don't know how/why he exists in their own words. All they go is "durr he exists de end" and don't explain how they think he exists. This is not a joke/fad thread. I want this over with. Explain how you think he exists or does not exist. I have written my part of how I do not think he exists in another thread- now it's your turn.

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#2 GameFreak315
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I just do...I realize that it's part of my upbringing, but now that I'm able to think for myself, it just makes sense to me. :)
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#3 forgot_it
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How else was this universe created? :)
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#5 SilvrDog
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Well, I am not a big religious person, but I find it a lot easier to believe in God then to believe in a Big Bang theory. By the way the Big Bang theory cannot be proven, so I don't want to hear anyone say that its correct, lol. Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

My only problem with religion is that everyone thinks that theirs is correct and that if you don't follow their way then you are wrong.

Facts that I believe:

1. There is a God

2. He made the Universe

 3. He controls every thing

 

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#6 foxhound_fox
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Its hard to explain something that the human mind cannot comprehend.
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#7 jrhawk42
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it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.
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#8 a-c-slater
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I just do...I realize that it's part of my upbringing, but now that I'm able to think for myself, it just makes sense to me. :)GameFreak315

If that "makes sense" just because it's how you were raised you might want to think, "how did this infinitely powerful person come into existence? how come he gets angry in the bible? how come he does and says stupid things he already knows the answer to in the bible?".

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#9 Yagami-Iori
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Because everyone else says he's around but can't explain it. The logic is flawless!
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#10 tomxizor
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Well, I am not a big religious person, but I find it a lot easier to believe in God then to believe in a Big Bang theory. By the way the Big Bang theory cannot be proven, so I don't want to hear anyone say that its correct, lol. Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

My only problem with religion is that everyone thinks that theirs is correct and that if you don't follow their way then you are wrong.

Facts that I believe:

1. There is a God

2. He made the Universe

3. He controls every thing

SilvrDog

So you're saying, when I look at porn and do the solo-nasty, He's controlling my left-hand? ;)

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#11 Masinai
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How else was this universe created? :)forgot_it

Who knows if it had just existed forever, we cannot tell how it was created-but I strongly think he couldn't have created the universe. Who knows, mabye it was never 'created'?And, it could be infinite. What else would you find at the end of the universe? Nothing? What does Nothing look like? What color is it? What's it's shape? There has to be something in Nothing. Air...Water...Color... God cannot make an infinite thing that goes on forever. That's a little opinion of mine.

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#12 The_Ish
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Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

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Well, I am not a big religious person, but I find it a lot easier to believe in God then to believe in a Big Bang theory. By the way the Big Bang theory cannot be proven, so I don't want to hear anyone say that its correct, lol. Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

My only problem with religion is that everyone thinks that theirs is correct and that if you don't follow their way then you are wrong.

Facts that I believe:

1. There is a God

2. He made the Universe

3. He controls every thing

SilvrDog

please come back when you can stop making stupid statements that can be thrown back at you.

it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

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#14 Masinai
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Well, I am not a big religious person, but I find it a lot easier to believe in God then to believe in a Big Bang theory. By the way the Big Bang theory cannot be proven, so I don't want to hear anyone say that its correct, lol. Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

My only problem with religion is that everyone thinks that theirs is correct and that if you don't follow their way then you are wrong.

Facts that I believe:

1. There is a God

2. He made the Universe

3. He controls every thing

SilvrDog

The Big Bang can be proven by light that has traveled for millions of years. Not that I beleve in it.

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#15 foxhound_fox
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Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.SilvrDog


Then its good we didn't come from monkeys then. :|
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#16 verparanoidpers
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because, I think it is quite obvious that right and wrong and good and evil exist in the universe.
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#17 forgot_it
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[QUOTE="forgot_it"]How else was this universe created? :)Masinai

Who knows if it had just existed forever, we cannot tell how it was created-but I strongly think he couldn't have created the universe. Who knows, mabye it was never 'created'?And, it could be infinite. What else would you find at the end of the universe? Nothing? What does Nothing look like? What color is it? What's it's shape? There has to be something in Nothing. Air...Water...Color... God cannot make an infinite thing that goes on forever. That's a little opinion of mine.

Why not? God is all powerful and can do anything.
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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.a-c-slater

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

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Well, I am not a big religious person, but I find it a lot easier to believe in God then to believe in a Big Bang theory. By the way the Big Bang theory cannot be proven, so I don't want to hear anyone say that its correct, lol. Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

My only problem with religion is that everyone thinks that theirs is correct and that if you don't follow their way then you are wrong.

Facts that I believe:

1. There is a God

2. He made the Universe

3. He controls every thing

SilvrDog

You're god can't be proven either.

Why couldn't we come from monkeys? Although in retrospect, an omnipotent being creating us from his mind makes alot more sense. >___>

You can't believe facts. You prove facts, which you can't do. is this not a flaw in your logic.

Edit: Poster above me, tell me how complex life is.

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umm...he doesn't...
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#21 Masinai
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[QUOTE="SilvrDog"]

Well, I am not a big religious person, but I find it a lot easier to believe in God then to believe in a Big Bang theory. By the way the Big Bang theory cannot be proven, so I don't want to hear anyone say that its correct, lol. Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

My only problem with religion is that everyone thinks that theirs is correct and that if you don't follow their way then you are wrong.

Facts that I believe:

1. There is a God

2. He made the Universe

3. He controls every thing

Masinai

The Big Bang can be proven by light that has traveled for millions of years. Not that I beleve in it.

Quoting myself.

Can you explain why chimps are so near our DNA? All creatures evolve. All of them. There is no creature that cannot evolve. Who knows, we might turn back into a new type of intelligent monkeys in the future.

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#22 foxhound_fox
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because, I think it is quite obvious that right and wrong and good and evil exist in the universe. verparanoidpers


But those could be easily attributed to human nature. All humans are capable of both.
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[QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

Incredulity is a poor basis for an argument.

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#24 a-c-slater
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[QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.

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#25 VanHelsingBoA64
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Explain in your own way and how you think. I am tired of all these religion threads about god existing but how they don't know how/why he exists in their own words. All they go is "durr he exists de end" and don't explain how they think he exists. This is not a joke/fad thread. I want this over with. Explain how you think he exists or does not exist. I have written my part of how I do not think he exists in another thread- now it's your turn.

Masinai

If I don't believe in god he will send me to a demension of endless torture.

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#26 mark4091
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it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

Possibilities my friend, it may be 1 in a X chance, but it still COULD happen, thats the funny part, before the big bang ect, you have no idea....at all it could be anything.

If God exists, it does not exist as humans know.

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#27 TongHua
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[QUOTE="Masinai"]

Explain in your own way and how you think. I am tired of all these religion threads about god existing but how they don't know how/why he exists in their own words. All they go is "durr he exists de end" and don't explain how they think he exists. This is not a joke/fad thread. I want this over with. Explain how you think he exists or does not exist. I have written my part of how I do not think he exists in another thread- now it's your turn.

VanHelsingBoA64

If I don't believe in god he will send me to a demension of endless torture.

God has pro benevolence.

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#28 GameFreak315
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If that "makes sense" just because it's how you were raised you might want to think, "how did this infinitely powerful person come into existence? how come he gets angry in the bible? how come he does and says stupid things he already knows the answer to in the bible?".

a-c-slater

I believe that God is the beginning and the end...and there's nothing before and after Him. That's hard to comprehend...I'm not even sure how it happens, but I believe that it does.

Why does he get angry? I think He does that in the Old Testament, which is a collection of stories and are meant to be looked into deeper. It's not just about the historical accuracy, although I do believe in many of the stories...it's about the spiritual truths. Whether or not God was angry and why isn't really the issue...the important thing is that He always takes us back when we want to come back.

Why does he say "stupid" things? I'm not really sure what you mean...He says them so we'll understand them. That's all I can think of.

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[QUOTE="Masinai"]

Explain in your own way and how you think. I am tired of all these religion threads about god existing but how they don't know how/why he exists in their own words. All they go is "durr he exists de end" and don't explain how they think he exists. This is not a joke/fad thread. I want this over with. Explain how you think he exists or does not exist. I have written my part of how I do not think he exists in another thread- now it's your turn.

VanHelsingBoA64

If I don't believe in god he will send me to a demension of endless torture.

*Obligatory joke*

God will send you to another dimension, because his power is over 9000.

/end joke

And...

God is like the Anti-Santa... you have to die to find out he doesn't exist (instead of at age 8) and instead of gifts, it's eternal damnation.

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great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.a-c-slater

And apparently there's no way God could have created evolution, right?

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[QUOTE="forgot_it"]How else was this universe created? :)Masinai

Who knows if it had just existed forever, we cannot tell how it was created-but I strongly think he couldn't have created the universe. Who knows, mabye it was never 'created'?And, it could be infinite. What else would you find at the end of the universe? Nothing? What does Nothing look like? What color is it? What's it's shape? There has to be something in Nothing. Air...Water...Color... God cannot make an infinite thing that goes on forever. That's a little opinion of mine.

Well I don't believe in god but have you ever heard of pi. ;)

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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.a-c-slater

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.

no I'm saying the evolutionary pattern of flowers is so unlikely it's just as logical to say that a higher power planned it, as it just happened by chance. It's like saying that Stonehenge is a natural rock formation.

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it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

Maybe illogical to you, and most people here. If you think it's illogical that over millions of years, slowly simple organisms adapted to their environment and eventually became what they are today, how is it any more logical to think that someone just pointed a finger and there was humans!

The environment wasn't made to accommodate certain organisms, the organisms adapted to the changing environment. :roll:

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[QUOTE="a-c-slater"]great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.GameFreak315

And apparently there's no way God could have created evolution, right?

No. it directly contradicts your little adam and eve story.

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[QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.

no I'm saying the evolutionary pattern of flowers is so unlikely it's just as logical to say that a higher power planned it, as it just happened by chance. It's like saying that Stonehenge is a natural rock formation.

What is so incredibly startling about the evolutionary pattern of flowers?

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#36 Masinai
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[QUOTE="Masinai"]

[QUOTE="forgot_it"]How else was this universe created? :)a-c-slater

Who knows if it had just existed forever, we cannot tell how it was created-but I strongly think he couldn't have created the universe. Who knows, mabye it was never 'created'?And, it could be infinite. What else would you find at the end of the universe? Nothing? What does Nothing look like? What color is it? What's it's shape? There has to be something in Nothing. Air...Water...Color... God cannot make an infinite thing that goes on forever. That's a little opinion of mine.

Well I don't believe in god but have you ever heard of pi. ;)

Indeed I have =3

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#37 Masinai
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You guys still arn't explaining why you think god exist dosen't exist, just arguing. Just say what you believe

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[QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.

no I'm saying the evolutionary pattern of flowers is so unlikely it's just as logical to say that a higher power planned it, as it just happened by chance. It's like saying that Stonehenge is a natural rock formation.

What exactly is unlikely about it? Ever heard of Natural Selection?

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[QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.

no I'm saying the evolutionary pattern of flowers is so unlikely it's just as logical to say that a higher power planned it, as it just happened by chance. It's like saying that Stonehenge is a natural rock formation.

Once again...incredulity is a poor basis for an argument. We develop a sense of beauty, things just aren't automatically beautiful.

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Also, if you read the religious texts in detal you can find alot of really nifty stuff in there. I'm muslim, so I can only say from the Quran

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"The he turned to the heavens when they were smoke" (Quran 41:11)

"Have not those who disbelived know that the heavens and earth seperated as one entity, then they were seperated." (Quran 21:30)

That right there is more or less your big bang theory, the world used to be a giant mush of particles when something happened that changed the whole alignment and then we had what we know as earth.

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"Whoever takes a peice of land of other unjustly shall sink beneath the seven earths on the day of ressurection"(Saheeh Al-Bukhari-Book of Opression)

Seven earths = Inner Core, Outer Core, D Layer, Lower Mantle, Middle Mantle, Upper Mantle, Lithosphere.

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"Man was created from the extract of clay. First man was made as a drop in a place of settlement firmly fixed. Then the drop was turned into an Alaqaah."

Alaqaah means leech, suspended thing and blood clot in arabic. When a human is early in the embryo stage, it looks like a leech, and like a leech, it lives off of the energy and the strength of the host body. Then when the leech grows, it turns into a "suspended thing" in the mothers womb. The appearance of blood spots all over the "suspended thing" gives a bloot clot appearance.

Just some of the nifty things I've learnt :)

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#41 a-c-slater
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[QUOTE="a-c-slater"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

great argument you say flowers are pretty therefore there's a god. No. We've proven evolution and that's why we're so complex.

no I'm saying the evolutionary pattern of flowers is so unlikely it's just as logical to say that a higher power planned it, as it just happened by chance. It's like saying that Stonehenge is a natural rock formation.

who says stonehenge is probably manmade but that's a weak way to change the argument. None of this happened by chance. some flowers had a pattern that attracted bees therefore those flowers were pollinated and survived.

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#42 SilvrDog
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Ok first of all, he/she asked us why we believe in God and I said why. 

A more logical reason for me to believe in God is that for some reason People and different cultures from all over the world have believed in a God or Gods. (Which God or Trinity can be debated, will explain more in a minute.) 

Why on earth would so many people believe in the same basic idea if it was not true. Some might say that it was just a story, but story's were used as a means for telling history.

Dictionary Def:

Story: an account of imaginary or real people.

Legend: an traditional story regarded as historical but unauthenticated .

Myth: a traditional story, concerning the early history of a people.

If so many people who never met told this story then why could it not be true?

Hey, I grew up with religious parents and they always read the Bible and I remember that some where in the Bible a verse or passage said that God would preserve his word. Which meant his Bible, but that also means that God would do anything to continue on his word and peoples beliefs in him.

Ok, getting back to the God and Trinity thing, I remember once reading that Trinity means three and that God is the trinity. So pretty much there are three super natural beings and they are called God. For example we have branches in our government, but as a whole they are just called The Government. Does that mean that their is not more then one branch in the government, no. So in reality God is actually three beings.

 Anyway, hopefully I have explained better why I believe in God. 

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No. it directly contradicts your little adam and eve story.

a-c-slater

And in my more lengthy post I state that the Old Testament isn't necessarily meant to be taken word for word, but meant to be understood for what religious truths it holds. Bottom line is that God created everything. Evolution could fall under the category of "everything," I suppose.

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#44 a-c-slater
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No. it directly contradicts your little adam and eve story.

GameFreak315

And in my more lengthy post I state that the Old Testament isn't necessarily meant to be taken word for word, but meant to be understood for what religious truths it holds. Bottom line is that God created everything. Evolution could fall under the category of "everything," I suppose.

It's pretty hard to misunderstand something they stated so bluntly. . .

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No. it directly contradicts your little adam and eve story.

GameFreak315

And in my more lengthy post I state that the Old Testament isn't necessarily meant to be taken word for word, but meant to be understood for what religious truths it holds. Bottom line is that God created everything. Evolution could fall under the category of "everything," I suppose.

THis is why religion rocks. You can cherry pick what you believe as truth and throw the rest out! Who needs actual proof when you can do just believe whatever feels good.

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Also, if you read the religious texts in detal you can find alot of really nifty stuff in there. I'm muslim, so I can only say from the Quran

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"The he turned to the heavens when they were smoke" (Quran 41:11)

"Have not those who disbelived know that the heavens and earth seperated as one entity, then they were seperated." (Quran 21:30)

That right there is more or less your big bang theory, the world used to be a giant mush of particles when something happened that changed the whole alignment and then we had what we know as earth.

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"Whoever takes a peice of land of other unjustly shall sink beneath the seven earths on the day of ressurection"(Saheeh Al-Bukhari-Book of Opression)

Seven earths = Inner Core, Outer Core, D Layer, Lower Mantle, Middle Mantle, Upper Mantle, Lithosphere.

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"Man was created from the extract of clay. First man was made as a drop in a place of settlement firmly fixed. Then the drop was turned into an Alaqaah."

Alaqaah means leech, suspended thing and blood clot in arabic. When a human is early in the embryo stage, it looks like a leech, and like a leech, it lives off of the energy and the strength of the host body. Then when the leech grows, it turns into a "suspended thing" in the mothers womb. The appearance of blood spots all over the "suspended thing" gives a bloot clot appearance.

Just some of the nifty things I've learnt :)

forgot_it

Your just jamming scientific discoveries into religious passages. Anyone can do that for almost any religion.

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Ok first of all, he/she asked us why we believe in God and I said why.

A more logical reason for me to believe in God is that for some reason People and different cultures from all over the world have believed in a God or Gods. (Which God or Trinity can be debated, will explain more in a minute.)

Why on earth would so many people believe in the same basic idea if it was not true. Some might say that it was just a story, but story's were used as a means for telling history.

Dictionary Def:

Story: an account of imaginary or real people.

Legend: an traditional story regarded as historical but unauthenticated .

Myth: a traditional story, concerning the early history of a people.

If so many people who never met told this story then why could it not be true?

Hey, I grew up with religious parents and they always read the Bible and I remember that some where in the Bible a verse or passage said that God would preserve his word. Which meant his Bible, but that also means that God would do anything to continue on his word and peoples beliefs in him.

Ok, getting back to the God and Trinity thing, I remember once reading that Trinity means three and that God is the trinity. So pretty much there are three super natural beings and they are called God. For example we have branches in our government, but as a whole they are just called The Government. Does that mean that their is not more then one branch in the government, no. So in reality God is actually three beings.

Anyway, hopefully I have explained better why I believe in God.

SilvrDog

if god so truly wanted us to believe in him, he would have much different ways than a book. After all, he supposedly made us so he knows how humans think, right?

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Ok first of all, he/she asked us why we believe in God and I said why.

A more logical reason for me to believe in God is that for some reason People and different cultures from all over the world have believed in a God or Gods. (Which God or Trinity can be debated, will explain more in a minute.)

Why on earth would so many people believe in the same basic idea if it was not true. Some might say that it was just a story, but story's were used as a means for telling history.

Dictionary Def:

Story: an account of imaginary or real people.

Legend: an traditional story regarded as historical but unauthenticated .

Myth: a traditional story, concerning the early history of a people.

If so many people who never met told this story then why could it not be true?

Hey, I grew up with religious parents and they always read the Bible and I remember that some where in the Bible a verse or passage said that God would preserve his word. Which meant his Bible, but that also means that God would do anything to continue on his word and peoples beliefs in him.

Ok, getting back to the God and Trinity thing, I remember once reading that Trinity means three and that God is the trinity. So pretty much there are three super natural beings and they are called God. For example we have branches in our government, but as a whole they are just called The Government. Does that mean that their is not more then one branch in the government, no. So in reality God is actually three beings.

Anyway, hopefully I have explained better why I believe in God.

SilvrDog

Okay let me ask you first, why do you think religions were created? (not Christianity, I'm asking in general)

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Also, if you read the religious texts in detal you can find alot of really nifty stuff in there. I'm muslim, so I can only say from the Quran

-----

"The he turned to the heavens when they were smoke" (Quran 41:11)

"Have not those who disbelived know that the heavens and earth seperated as one entity, then they were seperated." (Quran 21:30)

That right there is more or less your big bang theory, the world used to be a giant mush of particles when something happened that changed the whole alignment and then we had what we know as earth.

--------

"Whoever takes a peice of land of other unjustly shall sink beneath the seven earths on the day of ressurection"(Saheeh Al-Bukhari-Book of Opression)

Seven earths = Inner Core, Outer Core, D Layer, Lower Mantle, Middle Mantle, Upper Mantle, Lithosphere.

--------

"Man was created from the extract of clay. First man was made as a drop in a place of settlement firmly fixed. Then the drop was turned into an Alaqaah."

Alaqaah means leech, suspended thing and blood clot in arabic. When a human is early in the embryo stage, it looks like a leech, and like a leech, it lives off of the energy and the strength of the host body. Then when the leech grows, it turns into a "suspended thing" in the mothers womb. The appearance of blood spots all over the "suspended thing" gives a bloot clot appearance.

Just some of the nifty things I've learnt :)

forgot_it

You forgot the part where an omnibenevolent god wipes out entire civilizations and brands people heretics for life.

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#50 SilvrDog
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Ok, lets talk about Evolution real quick, it could be real because if any of you know your Bible, certain verses say that he created and others say he made.

Create means to bring into existence.

Made means to form something by putting parts together.

For example in Genesis chpt 1 VS 21 it says that God created great whales and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought fourth...

Then in Genesis chpt 1 VS 25 it says that God made the beast of the earth...

Who's to say that God did not just use the Fish that he had created to make the dry land creatures?Â