Explain Why You Think God Exists

Ok, lets talk about Evolution real quick, it could be real because if any of you know your Bible, certain verses say that he created and others say he made.

Create means to bring into existence.

Made means to form something by putting parts together.

For example in Genesis chpt 1 VS 21 it says that God created great whales and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought fourth...

Then in Genesis chpt 1 VS 25 it says that God made the beast of the earth...

Who's to say that God did not just use the Fish that he had created to make the dry land creatures?

SilvrDog

Sure, but evolution doesn't necessarily conflict with religion, so go back and answer my question please:P

Ok first of all, he/she asked us why we believe in God and I said why.

A more logical reason for me to believe in God is that for some reason People and different cultures from all over the world have believed in a God or Gods. (Which God or Trinity can be debated, will explain more in a minute.)

Why on earth would so many people believe in the same basic idea if it was not true. Some might say that it was just a story, but story's were used as a means for telling history.

Dictionary Def:

Story: an account of imaginary or real people.

Legend: an traditional story regarded as historical but unauthenticated .

Myth: a traditional story, concerning the early history of a people.

If so many people who never met told this story then why could it not be true?

Hey, I grew up with religious parents and they always read the Bible and I remember that some where in the Bible a verse or passage said that God would preserve his word. Which meant his Bible, but that also means that God would do anything to continue on his word and peoples beliefs in him.

Ok, getting back to the God and Trinity thing, I remember once reading that Trinity means three and that God is the trinity. So pretty much there are three super natural beings and they are called God. For example we have branches in our government, but as a whole they are just called The Government. Does that mean that their is not more then one branch in the government, no. So in reality God is actually three beings.

Anyway, hopefully I have explained better why I believe in God.

SilvrDog

Simple, if Evolution is correct, people are starting to think in more and more advanced ways, Religion is a product of Evolution, if you have people evolving around the world you have a certain amount in each area thinking of how we were created, and thousands of years ago religion was the most logical answer. If you look into it, Religions are simmiliar in areas that were known to each other, look at South American Religions compared to Christianity/Islam ect.

That to me is another reason why if they're is a god, it's not one that has talked to us yet, if it was as they say, why would he have not told the South Americans of Christianity, why would he have not told the Japanese ect.

I think there is a god, but I can't really explain why, it's probably more of a hope. Because I really hope there is somehting after we die and I would like to think there is something bigger than just us.

Also I hope God, is just like God in God, the Devil and Bob (short-lived animated show on Fox)

I'm so glad I live in the UK, pretty much half the population is atheist (back me up guys).james28893

Really I do respect most christians, but I cannot stand creationists and their"oh look everything just appeared, how nice" argument. There is so much evidence to prove evolution and so little to prove creationism,james28893

oh and most of the Bible is ridiculous ( "yeah so what if a guy lived for 600 years, they did it in lunar cycles back then"..."but then that would mean wotshisname begot someone at the ripe old age of 4"..."shut up"). james28893

The Bible promotes incest :D.james28893

Genesis 4

Genesis 20: 11-12

Lot, Noah etc. all did the dirty deed with daughters.

Genesis 4

Genesis 20: 11-12

Lot, Noah etc. all did the dirty deed with daughters.

james28893

Genesis 20"11 Abraham replied, "I said to myself, 'There is surely no fear of God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife.' 12 Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife."

Where's the promotion of incest? Abraham seems to be in danger of being killed because his sis is his wife. Doesn't sound like promoting to me.

Ok fine no promotion, but there's lots of 'stuff' in there.james28893

Anyway, I have always wondered too... did all of Adam and Eve's children have children with each other, and so on? I think I would rather have come from monkeys...

He just does, He is the creator of this world and the universe. He created everything, He was there from the very beginning and He will be here till the very end. Putzwapputzen

Okay, I believe you. By saying that he exists, then he must.

[QUOTE="james28893"]Ok fine no promotion, but there's lots of 'stuff' in there.Engrish_Major

Anyway, I have always wondered too... did all of Adam and Eve's children have children with each other, and so on? I think I would rather have come from monkeys...

If you read the first few pages of the Bible you'll know this.

[QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

No it's not more likely.

great argument, do you even have a inkling of understand to how complex life and the universe is??? obviously not, or you'd understand it's not the natural order of things, and very very unlikely even in perfect conditions.

What you seem to forget in your blind faithness is that the Universe is always expanding, that theres millions of galaxies, and billions of stars and many many planets in each galaxies. So, even as little as the chances are, when you multiply it by the number of cases it can happen (AKA (planets+stars)x(galaxies)) something along those lines, well, you get a pretty good chance of life appearing.

[QUOTE="Putzwapputzen"]He just does, He is the creator of this world and the universe. He created everything, He was there from the very beginning and He will be here till the very end. Engrish_Major

Okay, I believe you. By saying that he exists, then he must.

Hahahhahah. I love how we can poin out the blindness of faithful people. Its irrational to say "something exists because I think so, I got no proof, but it still exists". BTW, before pointing out I dont have proof he doesnt exist, well, the fact that deers isolated on an island for centurieshave different attributes than their mainland counter-part, while being the same species (AKA evolution we can observe), the fact that the universe is expanding, which, therefore, explains the probability of life happening (AKA, the bigger the universe, the more planets and stars there is, the more chances there is for life to appear).

I just hope you wont do like that dude who said the Bible is against the idea of evolution because, from HIS interpretation, it is not the case, BTW, the Bible is like the Constitution of Christianism, you cant just say "well, Im faithful, I believe in God, im christian, but I dont believe in everything the Bible says", if you say that, youre a not christian, because you dont respect the base principles of this religion. Its like me being part of an environmental group, but not doing any recycling....

The whole idea of religion was created because 'man' was insecure, about life and the after-life. james28893

exactly, couldnt have said it better.

its funny if you actually trace religions back to there roots.....

the story of a son of god being killed is very similar to the Greek religion ( i think its the god of wine im talking it about, itwas VERY long ago i read this)

but hey? whos to say the greeks were wrong? whats wrong with the druids? there religion was created WAY before Christianity and islam (i think). so? don't they have a better account of the world?....

but hell.. who am i to decide what you believe. if your religion tells you to live your life in a moral way thats fine. just don't force that religion onto others or kill many in the name of the chosen god.

religion is fine as-long as your belief is taken to a certain extent. dieing for a religion is where we start to go into the danger zone

[QUOTE="GameFreak315"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

No. it directly contradicts your little adam and eve story.

Yagami-Iori

And in my more lengthy post I state that the Old Testament isn't necessarily meant to be taken word for word, but meant to be understood for what religious truths it holds. Bottom line is that God created everything. Evolution could fall under the category of "everything," I suppose.

THis is why religion rocks. You can cherry pick what you believe as truth and throw the rest out! Who needs actual proof when you can do just believe whatever feels good.

I dont believe God exists. I just thought about the whole religion thing one day and just thought it was stupid. I think religion was merely created to give peoples lives a sense of purpose and reasonzepman71

the reason religion continues is due to people raising there children in there religion. if your told something from birth changing is going to be very difficult

Ok first of all, The Old Testament is dealing with God's chosen people, the Israelis. The Old Testament is their history, their battles they fought and such things.

Next, Religion is not a practice its a belief, but yet so many people get caught up in the practice that they forget what it really is. Thats why I have a hard time with churches, they get so wrapped up in the way that they worship God that they think that if you don't do it as well you are a Non-Christian.

Christian only means, " Believer in Jesus Christ and his teachings." so were do people get off saying that you have to do good works or you have to say 13 hail Mary's.

Anyway thats all for now. 

Wow, cos that's just what happened. Just because you believe in God doesn't mean that you can't believe in evolution. Even the late Pope believed in evolution. Frankly religion is awful ( I know I'm contradicting myself), think how many wars it has caused, how many deaths. Atheism hasn't, nor has satanism, well maybe a couple.james28893

Dude, do you know a thing called political capital? They are just trying to make the religon more appealing by throwing up the **** people use to bash on religion. They do that to make religion less restraining, thats all. Religion NEVER believed in evolution, theyre only trying to get some approval by saying they do.

Thats the same **** when a political party changes some of its basic values because it aint appealing the populace anymore, maybe you cant imagine an example, but on the political scene where I live, I can come up with a lot of those, when they do that, theyre goin in the direction of a categorized type of party, the "catch-all party"

Thats why education is importnat, you can actually start to be critic against the **** the State and the Church are throwing at you.

As for me, I found out recently why I believe God exists. Recently I thought that maybe Christians are brainwashed, and I didn't pray for a few days. Every night I felt guilty for not praying every night, and this Sunday I started to pray to God again. I found out that now, I believe in God because I feel empty without God.Fireball2500

Ahahahahahha, no you dont, you felt GUILTY, not EMPTY, and why, would you say? Because of social control. Why do you think you feel gilty when stealing something, even if its from a rich guy? Because of social control. Youre raised and educated by the State. The State is the greatest "crowd control" mechanism existing. How did you learn to raise your hand in class to ask a question? Why do you feel like someone speaking without raising it is impolite? The only reason you feel guilty is because youve been teached to feel that way, your parents must have been christians, or you went to a christian school, something like that, it can be more complex than just that too, like your friends, your work environment, all those things are crowd control mechanism and socialisation instruments.

Its difficult to go against what youve been teached, but try it, itll pay, I can garantee it, criticism is the best thing there is, with it, you feel more free that by believing blindly everything people say to you, and please, PLEASE, dont say you arent following blindly to be christians, theres no big chances youre Christian onlysincea year ago, the chances are good youve been raised as one from the day you were born...

I just think there has to be a way the universe was created

I imagine it like a box. if i put 2 rats in there, what will happen? more life will be created. If i don't put anything in that box, will anything be created? no. there has to be some sort of life before to make more, and that life before is god. I dunno really how to explain it but thats my way of thinking

it's illogical to think that all the complexity, and unlikely events that create and substain human life just happend by accident. I wouldn't say this is proof that god exists but it does present the argument that God existing is as likely, or more likely than God not existing.jrhawk42

So, it is MORE likely that a being complex and unlikely enough to create the universe simply exists without a creator than is for the universe to simply exist without a creator.

No, I don't buy that argument.

i think that the human body is too much of an accomplishment to just, "bang", be here. from the eyes to the heart, which runs like a battery for 70+ years on nothing but a red liquid, that's pretty amazing. yes, i believe in god, it makes the most sense out of everything else i've heard.

" i believe in christianity as i believe that the sun has risen, not only because i see it, but by it i see everything else."

C.S. Lewis

i think that the human body is too much of an accomplishment to just, "bang", be here. from the eyes to the heart, which runs like a battery for 70+ years on nothing but a red liquid, that's pretty amazing. yes, i believe in god, it makes the most sense out of everything else i've heard.

" i believe in christianity as i believe that the sun has risen, not only because i see it, but by it i see everything else."

C.S. Lewis

thatpunk

i think that the human body is too much of an accomplishment to just, "bang", be here. from the eyes to the heart, which runs like a battery for 70+ years on nothing but a red liquid, that's pretty amazing. yes, i believe in god, it makes the most sense out of everything else i've heard.

" i believe in christianity as i believe that the sun has risen, not only because i see it, but by it i see everything else."

C.S. Lewis

thatpunk

"Bang" and we are here hmm... Sounds like a story from the Bible doesn't it? You said it yourself, too improbable to be true.

i think that the human body is too much of an accomplishment to just, "bang", be here. from the eyes to the heart, which runs like a battery for 70+ years on nothing but a red liquid, that's pretty amazing. yes, i believe in god, it makes the most sense out of everything else i've heard.

" i believe in christianity as i believe that the sun has risen, not only because i see it, but by it i see everything else."

C.S. Lewis

thatpunk

Neither you or CS Lewis makes sense. Neither of those quotes explaines anything.

[QUOTE="thatpunk"]

i think that the human body is too much of an accomplishment to just, "bang", be here. from the eyes to the heart, which runs like a battery for 70+ years on nothing but a red liquid, that's pretty amazing. yes, i believe in god, it makes the most sense out of everything else i've heard.

" i believe in christianity as i believe that the sun has risen, not only because i see it, but by it i see everything else."

C.S. Lewis

Engrish_Major

Neither you or CS Lewis makes sense. Neither of those quotes explaines anything.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="thatpunk"]

i think that the human body is too much of an accomplishment to just, "bang", be here. from the eyes to the heart, which runs like a battery for 70+ years on nothing but a red liquid, that's pretty amazing. yes, i believe in god, it makes the most sense out of everything else i've heard.

" i believe in christianity as i believe that the sun has risen, not only because i see it, but by it i see everything else."

C.S. Lewis

thatpunk

Neither you or CS Lewis makes sense. Neither of those quotes explaines anything.

I'll tell you why he doesn't exist - Science!

God didn't pull the Universe from his arse, or fart and light it with a cigarette lighter, a la Family Guy. God didn't do anything. Gases compressed into a singularity, expanded, Universe came to be, elements came from various reactions, collided, made compounds, collided, made rocks, metal and such, planets came to be, residual elements combined in a magical occurence known as evolution, job done. It's not as if 'God' put a ready meal in the proverbial oven at gas mark 6 for half an hour and bam, the universe came out steaming hot, served on a plate and garnished with parsley.

I love metaphors.