Explain Why You Think God Exists

What's more, Religion itself is crap. Humans are scared of what they don't understand. Humans created Religion as a means of understanding natural occurances such as plague, famine, storms, wildfires, eclispses, stars, the sky, clouds, time - anything that could be misinterpeted thousands of years ago was bundled into the 'I don't understand this' tray, and over time people made up what were fundamentally flawed interpretations of these phenomena and these coagulated into a single beleif - that there is a higher being that created all these things. Simply put, humans made up God, much like a child will make up an invisible friend to help them understand things.

It's no coincidence that religious beleif has faltered over the last 200 hundred years. Technology has advanced, and time and time again, we have debunked Biblical tales as being just that - stories. Now that we have a different means of understanding the universe, we no longer require religion to make us feel ok. Religion has become, or is in the least becoming, obsolete as our understanding increases.

Steam power became obsolete as our understanding of mobility, chemical-kinetic energy and physics increased, and now our understanding of everything on a macro scale is advancing, religion is becoming obsolete. Religion is a metaphoric steam engine. Once it sufficed, but now we have no need for it.

[QUOTE="Fireball2500"]As for me, I found out recently why I believe God exists. Recently I thought that maybe Christians are brainwashed, and I didn't pray for a few days. Every night I felt guilty for not praying every night, and this Sunday I started to pray to God again. I found out that now, I believe in God because I feel empty without God.kalossimitar

Ahahahahahha, no you dont, you felt GUILTY, not EMPTY, and why, would you say? Because of social control. Why do you think you feel gilty when stealing something, even if its from a rich guy? Because of social control. Youre raised and educated by the State. The State is the greatest "crowd control" mechanism existing. How did you learn to raise your hand in class to ask a question? Why do you feel like someone speaking without raising it is impolite? The only reason you feel guilty is because youve been teached to feel that way, your parents must have been christians, or you went to a christian school, something like that, it can be more complex than just that too, like your friends, your work environment, all those things are crowd control mechanism and socialisation instruments.

Its difficult to go against what youve been teached, but try it, itll pay, I can garantee it, criticism is the best thing there is, with it, you feel more free that by believing blindly everything people say to you, and please, PLEASE, dont say you arent following blindly to be christians, theres no big chances youre Christian onlysincea year ago, the chances are good youve been raised as one from the day you were born...

I don't think you can scientifically prove the existence of god. That's kind of the basis of faith.

I don't think you can scientifically prove the existence of god. That's kind of the basis of faith.

sonicare

Maybe I'm insecure, but I hate taking things on faith. That's why I love math, like science, tolerate history, and hate literature.

I just think there has to be a way the universe was created

I imagine it like a box. if i put 2 rats in there, what will happen? more life will be created. If i don't put anything in that box, will anything be created? no. there has to be some sort of life before to make more, and that life before is god. I dunno really how to explain it but thats my way of thinking

mtcoola

But if everything needs to be created so does the creator, but if the creator can be eternal how come the universe cannot be.

You can't win with that agruement.

i think that the human body is too much of an accomplishment to just, "bang", be here. from the eyes to the heart, which runs like a battery for 70+ years on nothing but a red liquid, that's pretty amazing. yes, i believe in god, it makes the most sense out of everything else i've heard.

" i believe in christianity as i believe that the sun has risen, not only because i see it, but by it i see everything else."

C.S. Lewis

thatpunk

You don't KNOW that though, you're saying the human body is too complex, how do you know what too complex is?

Its impossible to think that our earth and universal was a mistake._rock_

who ever said it was? Mistakes are something that humans do, the universe can't make mistakes, it just is. It has no intentions, it has to goals, dreams, or plans. I believe you mean that it was all "by chance". I personally think it would be really weird if life (and therefore intelligent life, thanks to evolution) didn't spring up in such a realy freakin' huge place. I don't think you realize just how massive this place is.

[QUOTE="SilvrDog"]

Then there's the whole monkey issue, dude there is no way that humans came from a monkey, how can an educated person even think that.

The_Ish

actually, it's the educated people with open mindedness who are able to think freely and that man possibly came from apes. look at evidences all over the museums. and dont tell me im atheist because im Catholic.

[QUOTE="mtcoola"]

I just think there has to be a way the universe was created

I imagine it like a box. if i put 2 rats in there, what will happen? more life will be created. If i don't put anything in that box, will anything be created? no. there has to be some sort of life before to make more, and that life before is god. I dunno really how to explain it but thats my way of thinking

mark4091

But if everything needs to be created so does the creator, but if the creator can be eternal how come the universe cannot be.

You can't win with that agruement.

[QUOTE="GameFreak315"]I just do...I realize that it's part of my upbringing, but now that I'm able to think for myself, it just makes sense to me. :)a-c-slater

If that "makes sense" just because it's how you were raised you might want to think, "how did this infinitely powerful person come into existence? how come he gets angry in the bible? how come he does and says stupid things he already knows the answer to in the bible?".

Give me an example, and then we'll talk

[QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="GameFreak315"]I just do...I realize that it's part of my upbringing, but now that I'm able to think for myself, it just makes sense to me. :)aRE-you-AFraid

If that "makes sense" just because it's how you were raised you might want to think, "how did this infinitely powerful person come into existence? how come he gets angry in the bible? how come he does and says stupid things he already knows the answer to in the bible?".

Give me an example, and then we'll talk

Christ's last words were "Why has thou forsaken me Lord?" and yet he planned the whole thing out.

Do you not seem to remember God destroying the entire human race except for Moses and family?

[QUOTE="aRE-you-AFraid"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="GameFreak315"]I just do...I realize that it's part of my upbringing, but now that I'm able to think for myself, it just makes sense to me. :)TongHua

If that "makes sense" just because it's how you were raised you might want to think, "how did this infinitely powerful person come into existence? how come he gets angry in the bible? how come he does and says stupid things he already knows the answer to in the bible?".

Give me an example, and then we'll talk

Christ's last words were "Why has thou forsaken me Lord?" and yet he planned the whole thing out.

Do you not seem to remember God destroying the entire human race except for Moses and family?

[QUOTE="aRE-you-AFraid"][QUOTE="a-c-slater"]

[QUOTE="GameFreak315"]I just do...I realize that it's part of my upbringing, but now that I'm able to think for myself, it just makes sense to me. :)TongHua

If that "makes sense" just because it's how you were raised you might want to think, "how did this infinitely powerful person come into existence? how come he gets angry in the bible? how come he does and says stupid things he already knows the answer to in the bible?".

Give me an example, and then we'll talk

Christ's last words were "Why has thou forsaken me Lord?" and yet he planned the whole thing out.

Do you not seem to remember God destroying the entire human race except for Moses and family?

Oh, come on, thats low, its just some kind of metaphor about....something.......God is for evolution, God loves Atheists, God is forgetful, all of that is in the Bible......just gotta interpret it differently from the hundreds of different interpretations already existing......

(P.S., in case someone didnt get it *coughs* SARCASM *coughs*)

I used to believe in God. Then I found something out, his existence is basically impossible and prayers don't get answeredreservoir_doggy

Yeah, the hard reality that not everything is made out of chocolate fountains or wild lolipops running around. At least, you opened your eyes, thats great, man.

BTW, could someone explain to me how believing in God is different from believing in Santa claus or in the tooth fairy?? Anyone older than 13 yesrs old still believing in Santa claus is classified as a retarded, then, why the hell do people believing in a bearded entity that created the universe, without being created himself, in seven days arent looked at much more as retarded as they are already...????

[QUOTE="mark4091"][QUOTE="mtcoola"]

I just think there has to be a way the universe was created

I imagine it like a box. if i put 2 rats in there, what will happen? more life will be created. If i don't put anything in that box, will anything be created? no. there has to be some sort of life before to make more, and that life before is god. I dunno really how to explain it but thats my way of thinking

Ezgam3r

But if everything needs to be created so does the creator, but if the creator can be eternal how come the universe cannot be.

You can't win with that agruement.

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

If I don't believe in god he will send me to a demension of endless torture.

TongHua

God has pro benevolence.

I'm pretty sure that The Bible states that people who don't believe in the Christian/Jewish/whatever god don't have a pleasant afterlife...which totally undermines the 'benevolent god' theory.

I mean, wouldn't a Bhuddist, Muslim or Atheist person go to hell (according to the Bible, which I'm definitely not an expert on), purely because God allowed/forced them to join another religion (by 'forced', I mean that some believe that it is god's will that some people live or die - thus god 'forced' them to be born in a non-Christian/Jewish/whatever community).

[QUOTE="TongHua"][QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]

If I don't believe in god he will send me to a demension of endless torture.

Planeforger

God has pro benevolence.

I'm pretty sure that The Bible states that people who don't believe in the Christian/Jewish/whatever god don't have a pleasant afterlife...which totally undermines the 'benevolent god' theory.

I mean, wouldn't a Bhuddist, Muslim or Atheist person go to hell (according to the Bible, which I'm definitely not an expert on), purely because God allowed/forced them to join another religion (by 'forced', I mean that some believe that it is god's will that some people live or die - thus god 'forced' them to be born in a non-Christian/Jewish/whatever community).

Planeforger has pro sarcasm detection.

why do i think he doesnt exist? well, look around you kid... wars, suffering, terrorism... what kind of God that suposedly created universe, mankind, earth or whatever he did, would allow all this?! ... everytime i see the news all i see is "50 people died today in Iraq as a result of a suicide attack"... and that's just a example... i once believed in God, someone who had created the world... but that was when i was naive... didnt know crap about the world outside... until i opened my eyes, and start thinking logically and by myself... there is no God... not when there's a world like this...sandroDX

Well, maybe there's a reason why he allows human suffering...

I already posted a link for that and answered the TC's question in the other thread

Because everyone else says he's around but can't explain it. The logic is flawless!Yagami-Iori

hahaa, so true :p

I dont wanna say he dosnt exist, because we havnt explored pretty much any of what is maybe an infinatly expanding universe, who knows whats out there. I think if he does exist, it wont have anything to do with the christian bible we know of now. In my opinion most if not all of that was made up so that the people who run the church could have power and control. They used to drown women they thought were witches because they thought if they floated they were innocent for gods sake. At the time the bible was written and for hunderds of years after people would believe anything because they didnt know any better. No offence meant to any deeply religious person here.

Its hard to explain something that the human mind cannot comprehend.foxhound_fox

*cough* cop out *cough*

God does not exist ill tell you why. The bible has got changed many times by dfferent people. Why are therepeople dying young? Are we not supposed to be equal?

Planeforger has pro sarcasm detection.

TongHua

Urgh! :P

just to throw out some questions and see what you come up with

Alright first question is why do we have a seven day week?

Second why do we have marriage?

Third why do we have a conscience?

The last is why do we die?

bob_saget111

Well: the 7 day week in the west atleast, evovled from early christians celebrating the jewish holiday of sabbath(saterday) and the first day (sunday).

Marriage is a made up serimony, conieved through religion.

We have a conscience (morals?) because of the way we were raised.

We die because our bodies grow old and the cells begin to die.

there you go! :) although non of those things prove that god exists or dosnt.

why did god wait an infinite amount of time before deciding to create the universe?

This will explain many things on how god is imaginary and religious people are delusional and it's hurting modern society.

http://godisimaginary.com/

And here is a video that shows examples of the delusion of mormons, muslims and christians

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HVuw1wEuaAQ

I think god exists in their minds, because they believe. Just like centuries agosorceryexisted in their minds because they believed is was real.

I guess ifa person werea schizophrenic in their deluded mind anythingwould bereal. Itwouldn't be tangible but fromtheir perception itwould bereal. It would benon-existent totheir body the peopleand the world aroundthem butduring their hallucinations it's all real.

I worship our Sun ... what does that make me ?

Id worship any other star in the universe keeping me alive on another planet.

I'm very tan

I worship our Sun ... what does that make me ?

Id worship any other star in the universe keeping me alive on another planet.

I'm very tan

GamerPro1984

That at least makes you more logical than worshipping something that noone can see or prove exists.

Because everyone else says he's around but can't explain it. The logic is flawless!Yagami-Iori