Faster than light travel

Do you think scientists will eveentually work out the kinks in the theory and implement this? I am confident they will, but I'm not sure how. What about you?EwanMac

Nope. Einstein showed that FTL is not possible. Then again, Einstein sorta dispproved parts of Newtonian mechanics so, I suppose some person might come along and disprove Einstein theories, but until then, no, FTL is not physically possible. Though, technically, you can go a a theoretical relative twice the speed of light. It's really interesting, but, if you travel at the speed of light in one direction and someone else travels at the speed of light in the opposite direction (I say the speed of light, but I actually mean infinitessimaly close to the speed of light since you cannot actually reach the speed of light), theoretically, you relative speed to him, is 2 x speed of light, but, if you were to measure the speed he is going, he would physically be going a 1 x speed of light away from you. Pretty strange huh?

Anyhoo, in small terms. e=mc^2 means, the closer you get to the speed of light, the greater your mass becomes, meaning you become heavier which slows you down, so you will never reacht he speed of light since your mass would cause you to slow down. Technically, if you had an infinite amount of energy, you could have infinite mass which would cause the universe to collapse on itself :P

Man I love physics!

Nothing that we know of travels faster than light. It may be impossible.

If light travels at a speed I see no reason why a person couldn't simply travel at a faster speed.USSJAndrew

The speed of light is based on your point of reference. Certain materials have a slower speed of light than others; this is why a glass of water shows things larger than they normally appear. While we cannot physically travel faster than light, we have been making teleportation devices that change the location of a particle instantaneously. While any realistically sized teleporter is still quite a ways in the future, the technology technically does exist and is being experimented with.ElectronFlux2

If by teleportation, you are referring to Quantum Tunneling, then yes, we are a looooooooooooooooooong way off from even understanding that fully. It's still a phenomena and is no where near replication even in a controlled environment.

Do you think scientists will eveentually work out the kinks in the theory and implement this? I am confident they will, but I'm not sure how. What about you?EwanMac

The only way to travel faster than light without being crushed into oblivion is for space to be moving with the light, reducing the effects of the compounded gravity.

Even then...we will probably kill ourselves before we figure it out.

Number one, set a course for the einstein system, warp 8. "Aye Sir"....

Engage...

*Universe Collapses in on itself*

*Big Bang*

*We create a topic on the subject in an OT forum*

[QUOTE="EwanMac"]Do you think scientists will eveentually work out the kinks in the theory and implement this? I am confident they will, but I'm not sure how. What about you?Merkaba-

The only way to travel faster than light without being crushed into oblivion is for space to be moving with the light, reducing the effects of the compounded gravity.

Even then...we will probably kill ourselves before we figure it out.

you mean the only known way!

seriously, the laws of physics are great and all but theyre meant to be broken! Wooooooo rebel against physics!

[QUOTE="EwanMac"]Do you think scientists will eveentually work out the kinks in the theory and implement this? I am confident they will, but I'm not sure how. What about you?Merkaba-

The only way to travel faster than light without being crushed into oblivion is for space to be moving with the light, reducing the effects of the compounded gravity.

Even then...we will probably kill ourselves before we figure it out.

Let's think of this, is can we look into the past? The answer is yes. Light takes time to reflect back to us so that we actually are looking into the past everywhere we look. While it is unnoticable, it is still true. Ghost_702

You can't travel faster than light. Though I've heard many scientists speak of possible ways around it. Ideas like surrounding your ship in a bubble of expanding and colapsing space, or opening a hole in space itself. Obviously there are many problems that would have to be worked out... something that might take humanity centuries or even millennia to do (if they are solvable that is).

Relativity does not rule our faster that light. It just states that nothing can accelerate faster than light. Electromagnetic waves can travel at the speed of light because when they are created they are traveling at that speed, they don't accelerate to it.

E = mc^2 allow particles to travel faster than. upon their creation. But they can never decelerate to light speed.

In fact in optics and physics faster than light things have been observed.(quantum tunneling, etc) But according to the scientist this does not violate relativity because no information can be passed through these things.

Einstein was also wrong about a many things. He was behind in quantum mechanics. He was wrong about the EPR effect and it has been proven he was wrong about that. by modern experiments.

In fact Relativity is incomplete and quantum mechanics and it are often at odds on how to describe the universe.

Relativity does not rule our faster that light. It just states that nothing can accelerate faster than light. Electromagnetic waves can travel at the speed of light because when they are created they are traveling at that speed, they don't accelerate to it.

E = mc^2 allow particles to travel faster than. upon their creation. But they can never decelerate to light speed.

In fact in optics and physics faster than light things have been observed.(quantum tunneling, etc) But according to the scientist this does not violate relativity because no information can be passed through these things.

Einstein was also wrong about a many things. He was behind in quantum mechanics. He was wrong about the EPR effect and it has been proven he was wrong about that. by modern experiments.

In fact Relativity is incomplete and quantum mechanics and it are often at odds on how to describe the universe.

Moridin18

Einstein refused to accept quantum physics, supposedly because it conflicted with his view of the world and of how he believed god made it.

[QUOTE="Moridin18"]

Relativity does not rule our faster that light. It just states that nothing can accelerate faster than light. Electromagnetic waves can travel at the speed of light because when they are created they are traveling at that speed, they don't accelerate to it.

E = mc^2 allow particles to travel faster than. upon their creation. But they can never decelerate to light speed.

In fact in optics and physics faster than light things have been observed.(quantum tunneling, etc) But according to the scientist this does not violate relativity because no information can be passed through these things.

Einstein was also wrong about a many things. He was behind in quantum mechanics. He was wrong about the EPR effect and it has been proven he was wrong about that. by modern experiments.

In fact Relativity is incomplete and quantum mechanics and it are often at odds on how to describe the universe.

ThePlothole

Einstein refused to except quantum physics, supposedly because the conflicted with his view of the world and of how he believed god made it.

also, from what i remember, Einstein just plain hated anything that led to theories that indicated the universe was not constant. Einstein was a Constant universe believer, he was one of those who Radically supported the theory that the universe has always exsisted and always will exsist, it was almost as if he had a fear of any other theory of the universe.

FTL travel isn't even possible seeing as theoretical models would have you arriving at your destination before the event that accelerated you took place. It defies logic. Even going at, close to, or anywhere near the speed of light is impossible for anything with significant mass, unless you had an absolutely infinite and infallible source of energy.bman784

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="Moridin18"]

Relativity does not rule our faster that light. It just states that nothing can accelerate faster than light. Electromagnetic waves can travel at the speed of light because when they are created they are traveling at that speed, they don't accelerate to it.

E = mc^2 allow particles to travel faster than. upon their creation. But they can never decelerate to light speed.

In fact in optics and physics faster than light things have been observed.(quantum tunneling, etc) But according to the scientist this does not violate relativity because no information can be passed through these things.

Einstein was also wrong about a many things. He was behind in quantum mechanics. He was wrong about the EPR effect and it has been proven he was wrong about that. by modern experiments.

In fact Relativity is incomplete and quantum mechanics and it are often at odds on how to describe the universe.

Tolwan

Einstein refused to accept quantum physics, supposedly because the conflicted with his view of the world and of how he believed god made it.

also, from what i remember, Einstein just plain hated anything that led to theories that indicated the universe was not constant. Einstein was a Constant universe believer, he was one of those who Radically supported the theory that the universe has always exsisted and always will exsist, it was almost as if he had a fear of any other theory of the universe.

The fear is understandable I suppose. I mean, think about it... it the universe didn't always exist, then what existed before it? If nothing existed before it, and therefor the universe came out of nothing, when a very basic rule of the universe is that you can't have something from nothing, well... :?

[QUOTE="EwanMac"]Do you think scientists will eveentually work out the kinks in the theory and implement this? I am confident they will, but I'm not sure how. What about you?donwoogie

Nope. Einstein showed that FTL is not possible. Then again, Einstein sorta dispproved parts of Newtonian mechanics so, I suppose some person might come along and disprove Einstein theories, but until then, no, FTL is not physically possible. Though, technically, you can go a a theoretical relative twice the speed of light. It's really interesting, but, if you travel at the speed of light in one direction and someone else travels at the speed of light in the opposite direction (I say the speed of light, but I actually mean infinitessimaly close to the speed of light since you cannot actually reach the speed of light), theoretically, you relative speed to him, is 2 x speed of light, but, if you were to measure the speed he is going, he would physically be going a 1 x speed of light away from you. Pretty strange huh?

Anyhoo, in small terms. e=mc^2 means, the closer you get to the speed of light, the greater your mass becomes, meaning you become heavier which slows you down, so you will never reacht he speed of light since your mass would cause you to slow down. Technically, if you had an infinite amount of energy, you could have infinite mass which would cause the universe to collapse on itself :P

Man I love physics!

wow, I'm having enough trouble with Honors Chemistry, and I have physics next year, and it sounds really complicated :|

Relativity does not rule our faster that light. It just states that nothing can accelerate faster than light. Electromagnetic waves can travel at the speed of light because when they are created they are traveling at that speed, they don't accelerate to it.

Maybe it was created for that purpose, as humans are created for "human" purposes....as flower...as supernova, as planets?

And again on that goes: how much energy is needed to move that particle?

Einsteins "infinite energy amount" is really totally stupid. If you need infinite amount of energy to go faster than speed of light, even if it would be 300.010 km/s and every speed that is faster than that, you would need exact amount of energy no matter what speed it is, and that is INFINITE.

And that aging speed of light phenomena, it doesn't matter where are you in space (earth conditions only :D) or how much fast you travel you will die when you are ment to die 80-100 yr. old. Of course in ideal conditions.

Build 2 robots with internal battery that lasts for 1 minute and put them in space. Move 30 meters from them and let one run with jet-pack capable of running for 20 seconds in a circular motion at speed of light at 10m radius, and one stationared in center of circle, and let them say the same sentence that lasts 15 seconds, would you be able to hear those sentences at the same time?

That is basically a very simple explanation of that the time (needed for light travel and faster) is actually a fabrication of human mind.

365-366 days per year I can understand, also months I can understand 28-30-31 days because of the moon shift, and 12 months a year because of the 4 seasons. But I cannot understand seconds and hours.

It basically an earth divided, but it can be also divided on 30 parts, making it 30 hours. Millisecond can be also called a second.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second#History

Einstein is mostly wrong about everything.

He said that we cannot go faster than light, but gave us posibillity to bend space. If we were actually allowed to do both, how hard it can be? Piece of cake?

He acted like this is it and nothing more. It's like saying that CPU's cannot go faster than 6GHz. :D

I think bending space would be more probably than FTL travel. After all isn't that what a black hole does? or am I confused.Shrinekeeper

Well they said that the suction (bend speed) of black hole has speed near the speed of light.

I don't think it's possible to produce something with so much power that it can go to the moon in 1 second...

Besides, why would we try to travel faster than light? What we want is to explore space faster, not actually go there.

If it can happen in Battlestar Galactica, then it can happen in real life. Or at least I hope that's true.

But anyway, I believe it's impossible for that to happen as explained by our laws of physics so far. Until someone breaks a law or disproves it, it'll stay like that.

I don't think it's possible to produce something with so much power that it can go to the moon in 1 second...

Besides, why would we try to travel faster than light? What we want is to explore space faster, not actually go there.

bloodling

Yes you can go faster than light travel!

You go so slow that it goes backwards

I think the more we discover the limits of travel the more we will realise that faster than light speed is impossible. One of the main reasons being everything in front of you would be black? Why you ask? Because our vision is based off of the reflection of light and if you are going faster then that light then nothing would be illuminated. In theory you would be able to look to either side and see light and things catching up with you, but without light you're flying in the dark.

What I really want to know if what is going on in black holes? Stephen Hawkins actually revoked his theory that it destroys all matter. He said there is no way of knowing. I say its about time we try to locate one and send a probe into it, just to see what happens.

[QUOTE="EwanMac"]Do you think scientists will eveentually work out the kinks in the theory and implement this? I am confident they will, but I'm not sure how. What about you?donwoogie

Nope. Einstein showed that FTL is not possible. Then again, Einstein sorta dispproved parts of Newtonian mechanics so, I suppose some person might come along and disprove Einstein theories, but until then, no, FTL is not physically possible. Though, technically, you can go a a theoretical relative twice the speed of light. It's really interesting, but, if you travel at the speed of light in one direction and someone else travels at the speed of light in the opposite direction (I say the speed of light, but I actually mean infinitessimaly close to the speed of light since you cannot actually reach the speed of light), theoretically, you relative speed to him, is 2 x speed of light, but, if you were to measure the speed he is going, he would physically be going a 1 x speed of light away from you. Pretty strange huh?

Anyhoo, in small terms. e=mc^2 means, the closer you get to the speed of light, the greater your mass becomes, meaning you become heavier which slows you down, so you will never reacht he speed of light since your mass would cause you to slow down. Technically, if you had an infinite amount of energy, you could have infinite mass which would cause the universe to collapse on itself :P

Man I love physics!

Infinite mass is teh impossible. Pseudo science.