First contact with Aliens (How would you react?)

I was watching the outer limits episode "Trial by fire" and how we had the mindset that the Aliens were hell bent on invasion.

http://youtu.be/Hz9M3lQSgpg

Won't spoil it.

How would you all react if they turned out to be real and came here?Would you be afraid even if they were here to help or just let us know we weren't alone in space?

I would be scared ALOT but optimistic at the same time..If they tried to communicate with us that IMO would be a sign they were not coming to wipe us out.

Movies have ruined us for the first encounter I think..they always come for our planet or just to wipe us out for no real reason.

I have a feeling it would be either us district 9-ing them or them district 9-ing us

I can't imagine why aliens would come all the way here just to say hi, so I would consider it natural to be wary of them.

I don't see anything like that happening... If a race is intelligent enough to develop the technology to be capable of such travel, I doubt they would want to simply conquer worlds...

Doesn't really matter though as we will probably never see other intelligent life... Faster than light travel is impossible and we will probably destroy ourselves before we ever invent spacecraft capable of transporting humans in space for years without resupply...

So moot point.

I think it will be the biggest anti-climax in the history of human kind...

Chances are, communication would be close to impossible... it would be a very akward, very confusing experience... anything we can learn from aliens, we have learned from their corpses and salvaged technology... chances are culturally, we can gain nothing...

I can't imagine why aliens would come all the way here just to say hi, so I would consider it natural to be wary of them.

GabuEx

For the same reason we'd go to another planet just to say hi?

And buttons, you don't know that FTL travel is impossible. It's a bit silly to restrict the entire universe to our Earthly understanding of physics.

I think it will be the biggest anti-climax in the history of human kind...

Chances are, communication would be close to impossible... it would be a very akward, very confusing experience... anything we can learn from aliens, we have learned from their corpses and salvaged technology... chances are culturally, we can gain nothing...

heysharpshooter

Depends. I would be scared if they were secret and only talked with government officials...

But if they openly talked to everyone and assured no harm would come, then I'd be somewhat fine. I'd still feel like I was living in a dream though.

As long as the aliens don't land in America we'll be okay. ;PMushroomWig

I don't think Aliens would care about our governments so I have no clue where they would choose to make contact.
My best guess is space..something neutral.

And it wouldn't be all in one day..thbey would let us know they were out there first and maybe take decades to come to grips with it.

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I think it will be the biggest anti-climax in the history of human kind...

Chances are, communication would be close to impossible... it would be a very akward, very confusing experience... anything we can learn from aliens, we have learned from their corpses and salvaged technology... chances are culturally, we can gain nothing...

MushroomWig

Language has nothing to do with it...

Evolution is a strange mistress... who is to say it happened in a way similar to the way evolution happened on our planet...

Lets say you are trying to communicate with someone who speaks a language you don't know... it would be difficult, but not impossible, because you both communicate using the same organs, muscles and non-verbal cues... what if an alien race does not communicate like that at all... what if they commincate with smell, or sub-audible vibration?

Alsom even if they commincate in a similar fashion as us, who is to say we have any baisis for communication? I am communicating with you now, so I assume we both have a similar enough culutre to understand each other. We both understand concepts like respect, anger, honor, etc.

Now try to communicate with a creature that has no concept of anything human. There is no word for love, because love does not exist and never has... yet youhave that concept and they do not...

Its kind of a mess, but basically, chances are communication is impossible...

Funny, there was a prank show in the 80s and they had a classic one where an alien spaceship crashed in some lady's garden. This plastic alien popped out, and she asked him/it if they wanted a cup of tea. I would probably do the same. Clip isherelol

Funny, there was a prank show in the 80s and they had a classic one where an alien spaceship crashed in some lady's garden. This plastic alien popped out, and she asked him/it if they wanted a cup of tea. I would probably do the same. Clip isherelol

poptart

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Funny, there was a prank show in the 80s and they had a classic one where an alien spaceship crashed in some lady's garden. This plastic alien popped out, and she asked him/it if they wanted a cup of tea. I would probably do the same. Clip isherelol

MushroomWig

Tea can break down barriers - all problems can be solved with a cup of tea. I think I'd probably offer him/it a chocolate digestive as well mind you...

I would be unimpressed.

basically, chances are communication is impossible...

heysharpshooter

Regardless of my own opinions, I wouldn't know the first thing about how communication with the alien visitors would be done, and to what purpose.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I can't imagine why aliens would come all the way here just to say hi, so I would consider it natural to be wary of them.

raynimrod

For the same reason we'd go to another planet just to say hi?

In the same way Europeans came to North America to say hi? :P

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="poptart"]

Funny, there was a prank show in the 80s and they had a classic one where an alien spaceship crashed in some lady's garden. This plastic alien popped out, and she asked him/it if they wanted a cup of tea. I would probably do the same. Clip isherelol

poptart

Tea can break down barriers - all problems can be solved with a cup of tea. I think I'd probably offer him/it a chocolate digestive as well mind you...

Wow mate, you've got me itchin' for a cup of tea and a chocolate digestive now :(

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

basically, chances are communication is impossible...

FFCYAN

Regardless of my own opinions, I wouldn't know the first thing about how communication with the alien visitors would be done, and to what purpose.

Technology does not equal comminication... technology does not allow us to commincate with bacteria...

We assume aliens came here because they want to talk to us... thats an arrogant line of thinking... we have no idea how an alien race may have evolved... they may not be biologically capable of communicating with us, and they may not be able to commincate because of their understanding of existence... again, to assume that an alien speices would have the same concepts of reality as we do is arrogant at best...

[QUOTE="poptart"]

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Ha, I saw that on TV a couple of months ago. Talk about living up to your stereotype.raynimrod

Tea can break down barriers - all problems can be solved with a cup of tea. I think I'd probably offer him/it a chocolate digestive as well mind you...

Wow mate, you've got me itchin' for a cup of tea and a chocolate digestive now :(

Hold out for the traditional 11'ses fella, then get yerself dunkin'! I may just crack open a pack of hob nobs myself - possible the worlds most dunkable biscuit

If they're cool and friendly, then I won't worry about 'em.

If they're cool and friendly, then I won't worry about 'em.

The-Tree

As long as the aliens don't land in America we'll be okay. ;PMushroomWig

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]As long as the aliens don't land in America we'll be okay. ;Pgameofthering

Yeah but we don't have a damn decade :P

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[QUOTE="poptart"]

Tea can break down barriers - all problems can be solved with a cup of tea. I think I'd probably offer him/it a chocolate digestive as well mind you...

poptart

Wow mate, you've got me itchin' for a cup of tea and a chocolate digestive now :(

Hold out for the traditional 11'ses fella, then get yerself dunkin'! I may just crack open a pack of hob nobs myself - possible the worlds most dunkable biscuit

LOL! Omg I haven't had Hobnobs in ages! Do they even sell them here? I'm about to head of for the 10:30 coffee coz I've got a pub lunch as Mrs. Parmas (one of the awesome bars I told you about) at 12 haha, so I don't want to ruin my apetite!

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

basically, chances are communication is impossible...

heysharpshooter

Regardless of my own opinions, I wouldn't know the first thing about how communication with the alien visitors would be done, and to what purpose.

Technology does not equal comminication... technology does not allow us to commincate with bacteria...

We assume aliens came here because they want to talk to us... thats an arrogant line of thinking... we have no idea how an alien race may have evolved... they may not be biologically capable of communicating with us, and they may not be able to commincate because of their understanding of existence... again, to assume that an alien speices would have the same concepts of reality as we do is arrogant at best...

There must be some common ground that can be found between us and other lifeforms, simply because life is not separate from the universe. We are made of carbon and water, which appears to be quite common in the universe. We live, die and are reborn as something else, which is pretty much what all of the universe does. There would be nothing to suggest that these hypothetical beings are made of something that's not of this universe or live in some part of the universe that does not experience the same phenomenon and laws of physics that we have observed.

My knowledge is indeed limited to only hypotheticals as I do not know of any life outside of this planet. I can safely assume though that you know just as much as I do, so you saying that communication is impossible is unfounded for that reason I just stated.

I would invite them over for a cup of tea :D

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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Wow mate, you've got me itchin' for a cup of tea and a chocolate digestive now :(

raynimrod

Hold out for the traditional 11'ses fella, then get yerself dunkin'! I may just crack open a pack of hob nobs myself - possible the worlds most dunkable biscuit

LOL! Omg I haven't had Hobnobs in ages! Do they even sell them here? I'm about to head of for the 10:30 coffee coz I've got a pub lunch as Mrs. Parmas (one of the awesome bars I told you about) at 12 haha, so I don't want to ruin my apetite!

30 mins until dunkdown for me - you're hitting it too early man! And yeah, if you go to Treats From Home just down near Australia on Collins they've all manner of such things. Check it out... Sadly I heard they discontinued the dark choc hob nob. That was a sad day in the world of biscuits - nicecupofteaandsitdown.com even painted their borders black as a mark of respect :(Anyway going off topic here... :P

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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]Considering that extraterrestrial lifeforms, which are intelligent enough to create vehicles that travel vast galactic distances and would be aware of the possibility of different lifeforms that might not communicate the same way they do, this is an un-rational and unfounded statement.

Regardless of my own opinions, I wouldn't know the first thing about how communication with the alien visitors would be done, and to what purpose.

FFCYAN

Technology does not equal comminication... technology does not allow us to commincate with bacteria...

We assume aliens came here because they want to talk to us... thats an arrogant line of thinking... we have no idea how an alien race may have evolved... they may not be biologically capable of communicating with us, and they may not be able to commincate because of their understanding of existence... again, to assume that an alien speices would have the same concepts of reality as we do is arrogant at best...

There must be some common ground that can be found between us and other lifeforms, simply because life is not separate from the universe. We are made of carbon and water, which appears to be quite common in the universe. We live, die and are reborn as something else, which is pretty much what all of the universe does. There would be nothing to suggest that these hypothetical beings are made of something that's not of this universe or live in some part of the universe that does not experience the same phenomenon and laws of physics that we have observed.

My knowledge is indeed limited to only hypotheticals as I do not know of any life outside of this planet. I can safely assume though that you know just as much as I do, so you saying that communication is impossible is unfounded for that reason I just stated.

Again, thats assuming a lot... you are assuming words like "conceptulization" and phrases like "internal desire" are even concepts an alien lifeform could understand...

For example: try to explain to a color blind person what blue is... its not really possible, however, by saying blue is a mixture of green and yellow, you can at least give a colorblind person a concept of blue...

Now try to explain blue to a person with no concept of color... or a concept of language... or the concept of what a concept is...

Even if a lifeform is carbon based(likely, although not a given, considering the possibility of Silicon based life), you are assuming their cultural and biologicalevolution is something similar to ours, when in fact the chances of that are very small... unless they evolved almost the exact same way as we did, communication would be difficult enough... if tey evolved in a way so completely "alien" from ours that their universal view is completely "alien", then commincation would be almost impossible...

I think they've already discovered us and probably have visited earth. It's only a matter of time before we find out.

it just depends if they are hostile or not

Again, thats assuming a lot... you are assuming words like "conceptulization" and phrases like "internal desire" are even concepts an alien lifeform could understand...

For example: try to explain to a color blind person what blue is... its not really possible, however, by saying blue is a mixture of green and yellow, you can at least give a colorblind person a concept of blue...

Now try to explain blue to a person with no concept of color... or a concept of language... or the concept of what a concept is...

Even if a lifeform is carbon based(likely, although not a given, considering the possibility of Silicon based life), you are assuming their cultural and biologicalevolution is something similar to ours, when in fact the chances of that are very small... unless they evolved almost the exact same way as we did, communication would be difficult enough... if tey evolved in a way so completely "alien" from ours that their universal view is completely "alien", then commincation would be almost impossible...

heysharpshooter

What alien lifeforms are composed of or what their culture might be is irrelevant to the possibility of possible communication with them. They should be well aware that we would not be the same as them. They should already know of the differences in other lifeform on where they came from. Aliens could not be that obtuse and still search the cosmos for whatever reason. I have a hard time conceptualizing that!:P

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Again, thats assuming a lot... you are assuming words like "conceptulization" and phrases like "internal desire" are even concepts an alien lifeform could understand...

For example: try to explain to a color blind person what blue is... its not really possible, however, by saying blue is a mixture of green and yellow, you can at least give a colorblind person a concept of blue...

Now try to explain blue to a person with no concept of color... or a concept of language... or the concept of what a concept is...

Even if a lifeform is carbon based(likely, although not a given, considering the possibility of Silicon based life), you are assuming their cultural and biologicalevolution is something similar to ours, when in fact the chances of that are very small... unless they evolved almost the exact same way as we did, communication would be difficult enough... if tey evolved in a way so completely "alien" from ours that their universal view is completely "alien", then commincation would be almost impossible...

FFCYAN

What alien lifeforms are composed of or what their culture might be is irrelevant to the possibility of possible communication with them. They should be well aware that we would not be the same as them. They should already know of the differences in other lifeform on where they came from. Aliens could not be that obtuse and still search the cosmos for whatever reason. I have a hard time conceptualizing that!:P

Thats the thing... an alien lifeform that different from us would only be obtuse from OUR perspective... from theirs, we would be the obtuse ones... if they even have such a concept...

Instinct is not the right word... I am not saying aliens would be like one of our wild animals, doing things based on instinct... what I am saying is their evolutionary path could be so completely different fom our own, they have found a way to reach universal ideas on a completely different path, one that because we evolved differently from them we could not comprehend...

Universal concepts like gravity, or the force that is gravity, would be the only concept we might possible have in common(and thats no guarentee), and they may have reached the concept of gravity onapathso different from our own path that even that would be a struggle to communicate...

try to have sex with it

Something tells me we're all going to find out soon enough...67gt500

Something and not someone? Like a vacuum cleaner? Or potato? What exactly did this something say???? Tell tell tell!!!????

Fear mixed with fascination.

As long as they'll approach us friendly, I wouldnt mind them even living with them :D.

Fear mixed with fascination.

certifieddata

Come at me bro.

what I am saying is their evolutionary path could be so completely different fom our own, they have found a way to reach universal ideas on a completely different path, one that because we evolved differently from them we could not comprehend...

Universal concepts like gravity, or the force that is gravity, would be the only concept we might possible have in common(and thats no guarentee), and they may have reached the concept of gravity onapathso different from our own path that even that would be a struggle to communicate...

heysharpshooter

Space travel has so many variables that must be considered in order to even survive. It's not like packing a lunch and heading off. They MUST have been aware of their own needs, the massive dosage of radiation in space to protect themselves from, the energy needed to even get off their home planet that's exerting some degree of gravitational pull. How they came to know these laws is also irrelevant because gravity, stars, radiation, all of these type of things act consistently throughout the universe, hence the term "universal laws of physics".

I can only assume that these aliens are close to or at least as complex in structure as we are. Life, even at a molecular level isn't simple, otherwise, we could just create life ourselves. Most likely they're different from us, but there's no reason to believe that such creatures don't require some form of nourishment for energy and lack a complex physical makeup. Understanding aliens completely different from us won't be skin deep, but on a level that can be measured in ideas, and quite frankly, I don't see their views of reality and existence that too far off from our own.

Erich Von Daniken, "Chariots of the Gods" argues that aliens have already been here in history, and offers a plethora of examples. He even goes as far as to say that we interpreted their first visit as aliens being gods, hence the basis for religion. Im not saying what I believe, just summarizing what he talks about if anyone was interested.

Ancient aliens is a show on historyHD that he is in quite frequently and sums up his theories. Youve probably seen it on at one point or another.

I miss UFO hunters!

first off holy crap its Kcube!!! and frankly i dont really know how i would act but there should be a U.N. group to handle such things-DirtySanchez-

Give me a moment....HOLY CRAP ITS SANCHEZ!!!!

LOng time bro :)

Back OT...I dunno if even the UN could cover something like Aliens but it would beat a single country.

Erich Von Daniken, "Chariots of the Gods" argues that aliens have already been here in history, and offers a plethora of examples. He even goes as far as to say that we interpreted their first visit as aliens being gods, hence the basis for religion. Im not saying what I believe, just summarizing what he talks about if anyone was interested.

Ancient aliens is a show on historyHD that he is in quite frequently and sums up his theories. Youve probably seen it on at one point or another.

I miss UFO hunters!

mamelon2012

I ordered his book..I saw him on Ancient aliens..Him and Michio Kaku make sense IMO about how earth has been visited before we even wore leather underwear:P

[QUOTE="mamelon2012"]

Erich Von Daniken, "Chariots of the Gods" argues that aliens have already been here in history, and offers a plethora of examples. He even goes as far as to say that we interpreted their first visit as aliens being gods, hence the basis for religion. Im not saying what I believe, just summarizing what he talks about if anyone was interested.

Ancient aliens is a show on historyHD that he is in quite frequently and sums up his theories. Youve probably seen it on at one point or another.

I miss UFO hunters!

Kcube

I ordered his book..I saw him on Ancient aliens..Him and Michio Kaku make sense IMO about how earth has been visited before we even wore leather underwear:P

Awesome! First couple of chapters are intense with physics and light travel and what-not. But after that it gets pretty cool. His evidence is really solid. Hope you enjoy it!