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#1 JustPlainLucas
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I'm watching the HBO mini series You Don't Know Jack, starring Al Pacino as Jack Kevorkian. So, I'm going to ask you fine people what are your feeling on the matter? Should terminally ill people have the right to have a doctor assist them in taking their own lives? I can understand wanting to outlaw it in fear that anyone who wants to commit suicide, ill or not, would do it, but in the actual case of a terminally ill patient with no chance of recovery, I wholeheartedly agree that yes, they should have that right.
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#2 cd_rom
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Terminally ill should have the choice. Kevorkian did it to curable people though.
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#3 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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I'm watching the HBO mini series You Don't Know Jack, starring Al Pacino as Jack Kevorkian. So, I'm going to ask you fine people what are your feeling on the matter? Should terminally ill people have the right to have a doctor assist them in taking their own lives? I can understand wanting to outlaw it in fear that anyone who wants to commit suicide, ill or not, would do it, but in the actual case of a terminally ill patient with no chance of recovery, I wholeheartedly agree that yes, they should have that right. JustPlainLucas

I agree with you.

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#4 RobboElRobbo
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It's hard to say really, seeing as you're already suffering yet you apparently don't get to heaven with suicide

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#5 chessmaster1989
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I'm torn on the issue. My answer is unequivocally no for anyone but terminally ill (with no cure) patients. In the case of terminally ill patients, I suppose I do support it.
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#6 jeremiah06
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The doctor should have the choice to refuse.
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#7 BluRayHiDef
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As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

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#8 cd_rom
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As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

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Dr. House supports, and actually has, assisted in suicides.
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#9 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

cd_rom

Dr. House supports, and actually has, assisted in suicides.

Well, he must have changed his philosophy since he said that.

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#10 astrozombie37
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I think a terminally ill person SHOULD have the right to do it but the doctor should also be able to refuse if he/she is against it or feels that there is a chance that the person could recover.

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#11 FFCYAN
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As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

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I doubt you would feel that way if you were in that situation yourself.

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#12 flipin_jackass
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I'm not decided on this and I think it really depends. I agree though that euthanasia should be allowed if the person is terminally ill.
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#13 JustPlainLucas
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As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

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If I can't sleep because I'm coughing up blood, if I can't go to the bathroom without crapping down my legs every time, if I can't think because of the excruciating muscle spasms I experience all day every day, if I FEEL every last organ being eaten away by cancer, then how can death possibly be worse than that?

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#14 Vesica_Prime
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The terminally ill should have access to it, curable people and healthy people should not.

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#15 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

FFCYAN

I doubt you would feel that way if you were in that situation yourself.

Just give them a bunch of pain killers and some anaesthetics. They'll be fine.

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#16 entropyecho
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I support it, but I don't think every doctor should be obliged to do it.

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#17 cd_rom
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

BluRayHiDef

Dr. House supports, and actually has, assisted in suicides.

Well, he must have changed his philosophy since he said that.

He wasn't referring to "miserable" people as those suffering in physical pain from an illness. He was referring to a miserable life as someone who's life simply sucks. He's always felt that assisted suicide was fine for terminally ill patients.
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#18 MrsSolidSnake
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It's been said already but the terminally ill with no chance should have the right to choose, although ever doctor should not have to do it.

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#19 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="cd_rom"] Dr. House supports, and actually has, assisted in suicides.cd_rom

Well, he must have changed his philosophy since he said that.

He wasn't referring to "miserable" people as those suffering in physical pain from an illness. He was referring to a miserable life as someone who's life simply sucks. He's always felt that assisted suicide was fine for terminally ill patients.

Well, I still think they should be kept alive. Just stuff them with pills to suppress the pain.

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#20 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

As Dr. House says, a miserable life is better than death. Hence, even though terminally ill people may be suffering, they should suck it up and maintain their survival for as long they can, because in the end, it's better than being dead.

BluRayHiDef

I doubt you would feel that way if you were in that situation yourself.

Just give them a bunch of pain killers and some anaesthetics. They'll be fine.

Life without living isn't much of a life. Death is not the worst thing you could suffer.

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#21 cd_rom
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Well, he must have changed his philosophy since he said that.

BluRayHiDef

He wasn't referring to "miserable" people as those suffering in physical pain from an illness. He was referring to a miserable life as someone who's life simply sucks. He's always felt that assisted suicide was fine for terminally ill patients.

Well, I still think they should be kept alive. Just stuff them with pills to suppress the pain.

Pills and morphine can only help so much. For a lot of cases, you'd have to give so many drugs to relieve the suffering that the patient would end up overdosing and die...
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#22 testfactor888
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A terminally ill person should be allowed to die. I had a grandfather who had cancer and was dying from it. Instead of being able to go into a hospital and perhaps given a less painful method to let himself die he ended up taking a shotgun and killed himself in the backyard of his house. My grandmother found him. I would rather have had all of that done inside a hospital with a doctor instead of what occured. I am 100% for assisted suicide for terminally ill patients.
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#23 Ringx55
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Terminally ill should have the choice, but only when there is no doubt they will die.
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#24 JustPlainLucas
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Well, I still think they should be kept alive. Just stuff them with pills to suppress the pain.

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And what happens when the pain is too much to kill? Do you want to put them into a coma so they don't feel anything?
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#25 hoola
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Yes i am for it. If someone wants to die then they should be able to pay someone to help them get it done.

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#26 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Well, I still think they should be kept alive. Just stuff them with pills to suppress the pain.

JustPlainLucas

And what happens when the pain is too much to kill? Do you want to put them into a coma so they don't feel anything?

Terminate they're pain receptors. I'm pretty sure that there are drugs which can do that. Let them live their last days without pain.

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#27 Pixel-Pirate
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Of course not! When someone is sick they should be forced to suffer and die in the most painful way imaginable because of my religious belief. This isn't a secular society, after all!

[spoiler] Yes I'm for it even if the person is not terminally ill. It should be no ones buisness but your own if you wanted to end your life. And in the cases of non-terminally ill people theres nothing the government or others can do to stop someone who wants to end it since you can't really fine/inprison a dead person. The ill who are unable to help themselves are the only ones made to suffer and it's rather sick people believe they should be able to dictate what happens to the terminally ill. [/spoiler]

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#28 Pixel-Pirate
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It's hard to say really, seeing as you're already suffering yet you apparently don't get to heaven with suicide

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So? This isn't a theocracy.

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I was wondering when you would show up!

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#30 RobboElRobbo
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I brought up the whole religion thing by the way not because I agree but because this will probably never happen solely based on that fact.

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#31 jeremiah06
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What about the doctor? You're just going to force them to kill?
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#32 Pixel-Pirate
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What about the doctor? You're just going to force them to kill? jeremiah06

No. That doctor should be taken off of that patient and the patient should be given a doctor that is willing.

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#33 cd_rom
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What about the doctor? You're just going to force them to kill? jeremiah06
I don't really see that as a problem. A doctor can refuse to kill, so you just keep moving down the list until you find one that's willing to do the deed.
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#34 ScaredWarrior
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I'm for it. I have a co-work friend that is dying from complications of breast cancer. She is suffering and has been for a few months. So hard seeing her like that. Makes me sad thinking about it.

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#35 Treflis
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If a terminally ill patient can't be cured, is in large amounts of pain unless he's medicated in a hospital and chooses this themselves then I think they should be allowed to be put out of the misery. Keeping them alive in pain against their will is pretty much torture.
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#36 silverwind23
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i believe doctors should have the right to practice assisted suicide.

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#37 JustPlainLucas
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What about the doctor? You're just going to force them to kill? jeremiah06
No, because if the doctor doesn't want to do it, they'll just find someone who will.
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#38 cd_rom
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Well, I still think they should be kept alive. Just stuff them with pills to suppress the pain.

BluRayHiDef

And what happens when the pain is too much to kill? Do you want to put them into a coma so they don't feel anything?

Terminate they're pain receptors. I'm pretty sure that there are drugs which can do that. Let them live their last days without pain.

You're not "letting" them live. You're forcing them to live.
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Against.
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#40 jeremiah06
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No. That doctor should be taken off of that patient and the patient should be given a doctor that is willing.

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I don't really see that as a problem. A doctor can refuse to kill, so you just keep moving down the list until you find one that's willing to do the deed.cd_rom
Good... I only ask because it wasn't addressed in the OP.

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#42 Alacoque72
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I voted no before I read the first post. Yeah if someone is a vegetable or something and they ask to die they should let them. If there's a normal person that needs someone to help them commit suicide, then they don't really want to kill themselves.

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#43 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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For terminally ill people and/or people suffering intense long term pain, sure. Otherwise... no. If they want to kill themselves, I'll try stopping them way before I even think of playing a helping hand.
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#45 ariz3260
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I'm neutral on the issue. But if I'm in that situation I would do it myself, why burden someone else?

And sometimes the cost of keeping someone alive is so astronomical. If the disease is incurable I wouldn't want my family to take on such a financial hit... the emotional hit is hard enough as it is to swallow.

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#46 TreebucketLumi
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For. Life is not inherently better than death.

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#47 Pixel-Pirate
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For terminally ill people and/or people suffering intense long term pain, sure. Otherwise... no. If they want to kill themselves, I'll try stopping them way before I even think of playing a helping hand.SeraphimGoddess

Able bodied people don't need assisted suicide. It's people stricken to a hospital bed that do. Most don't stop suicides cause people don't go announcing them.

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#48 quetzalcoatI
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For terminally ill people and/or people suffering intense long term pain, sure. Otherwise... no. If they want to kill themselves, I'll try stopping them way before I even think of playing a helping hand.SeraphimGoddess
I came to say this. I would also add people who are not able to communicate or take care of themselves properly, so long as they indicated that this was their wish before losing those capabilities.

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#50 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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Able bodied people don't need assisted suicide. It's people stricken to a hospital bed that do. Most don't stop suicides cause people don't go announcing them.

Pixel-Pirate
Just clarifying what I thought about the subject, no matter how unlikely the situation may be. And for the most case their mood and way of acting can be and usually is announcing something's wrong. A lot of cases could be stopped if nearby people took even the slightest bit of interest and ask them what's up.

If I knew a douche who really wanted to kill himslef I'd pull the trigger. It's what I do.

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